r/quitting7oh

She became heavily addicted to this stuff. Stole from everyone to support the addiction. She's in rehab now and is 2 weeks off but every time I talk to her she's just angry. We will be married 20 years in June with 3 kids and they're struggling too. After all this, how do I ever trust her again? I want to be there for her and help her through it and find a way for her to reconcile with the kids but I don't know if I can let her come back home. Advice?

day 64 cold turkey off 7oh kratom extract and some MGM if I’m allowed to say that here. went cold turkey with some melatonin tablets and some magnesium lmao, didn’t do shit. I kicked hard asf and went to work everyday too, blue collar work mind you. some say it’s impossible but trust me I felt every bit of the withdrawal. been a junkie for years and years so I’m just no stranger to opiate detox, unfortunately. now I’m over 2 months since my last use and I feel amazing. not feeling too much PAWS but def some symptoms like low energy and motivation and foggy Brain, and irritability etc. nothing I can’t deal with. I haven’t taken one single drug, no prescription drugs, no SSRIs no marijuana, no street drugs, no kratom, nothing. I drink booze yes. mostly beers with the boys on the weekends but that’s it. my life is busy as fuck and full. I hang with friends, family, date women, go to parties or bars or comedy shows or thrift shops or take the boat out or restaurants or to the beach and to the gym etc. it’s amazing. if I can do it so can you. just wanted to remind you that inside, deep down, you’re a fucking savage that can do anything you put your mind to. no literally you are fucking strong. you are resilient, you are capable of anything—even getting off 7oh. it’s hard yes, but when you do it, you will feel so good about yourself. just do it. don’t make another excuse. don’t wait one more day. for those looking for a reason to quit, let this be your reason. thank me later and good luck. -BK

Happy to say I’m 5 days clean ! Was hard not Gunn lie but I realized it was the easiest kick I’ve done I’ve tried to quite before but never could I was so weak. But we have to remember we deplete our bodies from nutrition. So I started taking multi vitamin daily along with magnesium glycinate at night along with testosterone therapy my levels were so low it was crazy . If ur a man check ur levels. But anyways when does this RLS leave

I am extremely sick even with suboxone When will this stop?? Get better??? In day 2 right now and so terrified

11 days since I have used any substances. I am so depressed. I have never felt like this. I just want to crawl into a hole. I have no motivation. I’m good for a chore or two the last few days.

I have never dealt with depression before. I have always been go go go. I don’t want to leave my bed. I hate myself for ever doing this damn drug.

I got sober off crack and h about a decade ago and do not remember my paws being bad like this. Maybe they were and I just forgot

Hii so I have been doing around 100/150 mg of 7oh (I also have reason to believe there is mgm in the pills I was taking) since right before thanksgiving. For the last 5 days I’ve let the withdrawals get really bad (like 24-30 hours since previous “dose”) and then I take a crumb (what I would assume is less than 10mg) of a 7oh tab usually when I’m about to explode with RLS. It’s not Monday and I had been waking up feeling better and better.

I literally hate myself every time I open the bottle but idk i think I might be making actual progress.

Is getting off 10mg easier than getting off 100mg? Have I completely reset it every time?

I was getting sick after 6 hours of not taking the 7oh last week. Thanks for any advice!!

Hey everyone. This stuff has such an embarrassing hold on me! But I can’t take time off to recover… I have Clonidine. What can I do to make withdrawal easier? I’m 500-700

Mgs a day

I’ve been off and on a heavy 7OH habit this past year (1000 + MG Daily). My previous attempts at quitting always relied on substituting 7OH with other substances. I’m an addict so if there’s anything that gives me that flip of a switch in my mind and mood I go overboard. In any case 7OH has been the substance that has dug its hooks in further than anything i’ve ever been hooked on before. I’ve had my battles with a lot of things, but my god 7OH is the most soul crushing and joy sucking thing i’ve ever come across. I mean, my 7OH habit has been more expensive than my previous blow habit even. BUT, i’m here to say that you CAN get through this, and it does get better.

I recently relapsed again, going straight to 1000mg of 7OH a day for a month after a failed attempt at quitting (lasted 1 week). This time around made a plan, got some subs from Quick MD, Gabapentin, and Liposomal vitamin c. The Dr. wanted me to take subs for two weeks, but I only took a full dose day one, half dose day two, and quarter dose day three, in addition to loading up on Gabapentin and the Liposomal Vitamin C. I STILL felt like I was going to die the first few days, couldn’t eat, threw up anything I tried to eat, felt like I had to manually breath, had anxiety, sweats, no sleep, etc. I started to turn a corner around day 5, but PAWS and total lack of motivation and joy was kicking my ass.

The last couple days I was just laying in bed feeling sorry for myself and thinking it would never get better, but today, day 7, I made myself get up, clean my shit room up, and what I feel has been most important, get my ass outside and get some intense cardio/jump rope in. I’m not completely heeled, but after today I feel like I can see that person I was before all this shit.

What ever hole you’re in with this, don’t let it keep a hold of you. There is a way to get out. It’s not easy, but it’s not impossible either. I’m still in the trenches but I am finally feeling a little more like myself, and feeling pissed and ready to fight this nasty shit a little more each day, one battle after another. I just wanted to say that you CAN fight this crap. Make a plan, what ever it is that works for you, you don’t have let this shit control your life. No matter how hard those first few days are, or those weeks of PAWS are, don’t just sit on your ass. Fight it, try to get up and do shit, get some cardio or work outs in to boost your mental health. You can do this, there is a light at the end of the tunnel.

I turned 30 a few months ago and spent the entirety of my 20s high on something. Started with weed, then 4 years of any prescription I could get my doc to prescribe (mainly adderall), then 2 years of kratom, and finally 2.5 years of 7OH. I'd have a few weeks each year where I was sober because I always sobered up for a trip I'd take my family on - since I started a family young, built a successful career, and always showed up for them... it's just it was so easy to do while I was artificially happy. And trips were easy because I was in a new cool place that kept me distracted. I got on the kratom to be "sober" but didn't like it so found 7OH and called myself "sober" but all of us here know that isn't true. I stopped 7OH because it was controlling my life. I'd plan my weeks around my usage as I always made sure I didn't take anything if I had to drive or go somewhere in 2 hours. I planned everything I did to make sure I was still getting my 5 doses each day unless there was absolutely no way to avoid skipping a dose. It was ruining me mentally and I started to feel more flat inside and like I hated how I felt when I'd take it. But I digress I am sure many of you know how that goes.

Now I am 30, I just quit 7OH Saturday (the physical part is over), and a month or so ago I quit nicotine, so I am literally off everything and quite honestly I am terrified. I don't know who I am anymore. My entire adult life has been spent high. I haven't maintained a single friendship aside from my wife. The only friend I have is someone I text or who may call me a couple times a year. I don't even know what I like to do aside from get high and do things with my family. Even anytime my wife would go to a friends activity and invite me to come I'd decline so I could stay at home and be high and chill with my kiddo. I am rambling. I just don't know what to do with myself and I am scared.

Anyone wanna join me on this quit? Let’s stick together!! Have a great day guys.

Also on day 4 no smoking lol so I have no clue what do do with myself at the moment.

As the title says I went the quick Md route after trying a lot to stop myself ct and with leaf powder it was too terrible (2000mg) a day. They gave me 27 4mg subs film. The last thing I want to do is become reliant on these so I have a few questions. Is it possible to cut the sub in half for my first dose 12 hours after last 7 dose. My goal is to get off everything. Please let know how long to be on it before becoming dependent. My plan is to use only when wd becomes unbearable

So I’ve been off 7OH since late last year and I’ve gone to NA during that time and remained sober. However, I do take Naltrexone and honestly, I kept relapsing until I got on Naltrexone and now I’m over 100 days sober from 7OH. However, I’ve suffered from depression for a really long time and it got even worse when I got sober, so my Psychiatrist had me start Spravato which is supposed to be like a game changer, super effective antidepressant that is supposed to work really quickly. I’ve been on it for over a month now and wasn’t really feeling better. So I was going over my medications with my Psychiatrist, and apparently, Naltrexone blocks the antidepressant effect from Spravato so my Psychiatrist had me stop taking it and the Spravato become super effective and has helped my depression tremendously. Apparently Naltrexone prevents Esketamine from activating the mTOR pathway in the brain which is an integral part of the antidepressant effect from Esketamine. I just wanted to share this with y’all in case you are also on Naltrexone and doing Spravato for depression since I feel like depression and substance use disorder kind of go hand in hand, have a great day y’all!!

This might seem like a basic post, but for those new to addiction, I think it’s vital to understand what PAWS (Post-Acute Withdrawal Syndrome) actually is. We know the name, but what does it really mean?

The first few times I stopped using 7OH, I misunderstood PAWS. I thought it meant I would just experience a prolonged version of acute withdrawals—that I’d randomly feel physical symptoms like "crawling" skin, a runny nose, watery eyes, or insomnia. I was wrong, and that misunderstanding is what tripped me up. I assumed that once I moved past the physical "flu" stage, I was done. I didn’t realize how much healing my brain still had to do.

After being clean for 10 to 30 days, I’d get the idea that I could handle 7OH in a controlled setting—maybe just a small recreational dose here and there. I didn't realize those "logical" thoughts were actually my damaged brain craving a fix. Because these cravings weren't debilitating or interrupting my day, I'd cave. I wasn't "fiending" like a stereotypical addict; I was just sitting in my car thinking, "I could take one tab today and be fine tomorrow, just like a non-alcoholic can have a single beer with friends."

I think many people in this community don't have a history of addiction. Personally, I’ve never been addicted to anything besides nicotine and caffeine. While I’ve abused alcohol in the past, I was able to walk away from it without symptoms or cravings. Even with past opioid prescriptions, I’d finish the bottle early, but once they were gone, I didn't go looking for more. I am an "addiction newbie."

Like many of you, I found 7OH through an online Delta-8 purchase where it was offered as a "just pay shipping" add-on.

For everyone—but especially those new to this—please understand that your "rational" thoughts after 20, 30, or 60 days of being clean are often not rational at all. They are cravings. Learn to call them what they are and address them accordingly.

I’ve had three relapses largely due to two things: secrecy and a lack of knowledge about addiction.

Today is Day 6 without 7OH (down from a daily dose of 800mg). I’m using Suboxone to help, and I am currently on a rapid taper.

It seems I finally turned that corner. Actually woke up and had the energy and motivation to get my kids dressed and ready for school then drop em off. I was on a pretty high dose 1g+ for over a year. No subs, just SR for 5/6 days.

It is crazy to think that this is worse than oxy and 100000000x worse than any amount of K you can shovel into your system. Was taking 100g+ of leaf and CT’d that and felt better entirely like I do now by day 13-14.

Everyone will get there, just keep trodding through the mud after acute WD and keep eating, hydrating, talking to people, and working out and you will get through this. Make yourself uncomfortable on purpose. Do things you don’t feel like doing.

Good luck to all

hello everyone! i got up to 400 mg per day and just got down to about 50-60 mg per day. i want to jump now. my depression is very bad and gripping me by the neck. my brain feels really messed up but the wd symptoms are definitely LESS horrible than coming off 400 mg cold turkey.. i just don't know what to do. i am thinking about s ubz but don't know because of the horror stories. i want rehab but have to talk care of my grandma as i am her caregiver. i don't know what is going to help me at this point. does this feeling ever go away? will i ever feel NOT depressed? i have been dealing w these pills for a year. i'm so tired. i need advice.

I had a post on here recently about being 6 days clean but I relapsed again. Whatever.

Well yesterday afternoon, I got drunk with my friends (don’t lecture me on this, I already know it’s bad) and my bestie took me home. I’m walking distance to downtown. But I have no clue where my keys are. So I have no kratom, no 7, no way to drive anywhere till I can call the bar and get my keys.

I also have been taking Wellbutrin the last four weeks.

I’m 18 hours since my last dose, and I feel… fine? I’m definitely hungover with a tequila heartburn, but I… think the Wellbutrin is working? I have always been able to quit WITH kratom and even that was hard, but to feel this ok WITHOUT kratom is kinda blowing my mind.

I just wanted to share because Wellbutrin is cheap and easy to get and if that’s what is working for me then it may work for others.

My story and advice if anyone cares:

I had a habit of 400-500mg 7oh a day. I was scared to quit because of what I heard online. I finally got fed up enough with my financial situation and talked to a doctor on quick md to get prescribed subs (off brand version of it) to do a quick taper, and honestly I’m so glad I did get subs. It truly saved me. The first night I was just waiting as long as possible before taking subs and near the end I was in complete hell. I was pacing my room because being still at all felt miserable. But I’m glad I did suffer because it made me appreciate that I had access to a tool like subs, and it made me stay strong knowing that any slight discomfort I was having was miles better than what it would have been without. I’m now day 4 with no subs (I tapered subs from 24mg, 16mg, 8mg, 4mg, 2.5mg, 1mg). One thing that I didn’t realize was how much subs was helping me sleep, I actually slept a good amount considering what I had just quit. Even 1mg of subs was enough to let me sleep. Getting off subs completely was the second hardest part but tbh it was easy to do it compared to what it could have been coming off 7oh with no aid. I felt fine at first off Subs but I realized really quickly that I wasn’t going to be getting any sleep for a little while. And not having sleep (maybe 4 hrs total the past 3 days) is the only thing messing with me now. I had to avoid the slight temptation to use subs again to sleep but I knew it’d be pointless because it would just reset my progress and delay the inevitable of fixing my sleep. Overall I’d feel fine all things considered if I wasn’t so sleep deprived. it’s getting slightly better every day though.

I didn’t know what to do with myself so I’ve just been cruising in my car around town everyday because I hate being cooped up in my room during this time. (may not be the best idea sleep deprived but I was able to handle it just fine. I would stop if I felt like I couldn’t handle it).

But anyway, I’m feeling so grateful. I feel like I’ve been given a second chance. Not trying to scare anyone from quitting cold turkey with no aid but i honestly don’t know if I would have made it those first few days without subs. The worst was how slow time felt, and all I could imagine was how long 3 days was gonna feel like this.

I may be a rare case but I really haven’t been craving 7oh at all. To my brain there isn’t a direct correlation of the discomfort I’m feeling and taking 7oh it’s more like an after thought. And having experienced 7oh withdrawal before, I know that taking it doesn’t immediately make the discomfort go away, Ex. Like taking NyQuil to sleep one night (non withdrawal related), you’re not craving NyQuil but it sure would help. I’m comparing it to nicotine which has me really craving it if I don’t have it.

The things that have been helping me:

Taking lots of magnesium and a multivitamin

magnesium sleep bath salt

Lots of water, Gatorade electrolyte drinks.

Finding something to do even if you don’t want to. It can be really low effort. Just don’t suffer counting the minutes because each minute will feel like 20.

I threw away $500+ worth of 7oh to make the stakes higher.

I told the people closest around me to help keep me accountable.

Tylenol actually helped a good amount for the first day withdrawals.

Anyone, if you’re looking to quit DO IT. It feels so good to be in control again despite all the pain. I’d personally recommend doing a short taper of subs if you’re anything like me (weak minded, not very healthy lifestyle) it made the process infinitely easier I was even able to sleep the first several nights on and off (I might have taken a little more than I needed, but I don’t regret it). Just make sure you don’t go into precipitated withdrawals by taking subs too early and make sure you get off subs at the end of your taper because otherwise it’s pointless because you’re just getting yourself dependent to something that has even longer withdrawals imo. It’s good to suffer a little so you know what you just dodged.

FCK 7oh I’m done for life.

My skin feels like fire, should I go to the hospital? The doctor had me on injections of Brixadi and 6 weeks went by.

But I’m going into precipitated withdrawal and I want to rip my skin off.

Help

I started taking 7oh not knowing what it was, and by the time it was too late I was already addicted. Withdrawals were terrible comparable to opiates but not as bad at first. The stuff is terribly and needs to be gone it's too addicting and easily available. After about 6 months I decided I was done and wanted to get off of them, but couldn't. Fast forward 6 months I was taking around 400mg a day just to get by. Finally I had enough, I tried to slowly taper but the frequency I had to take it just became higher. I couldn't sleep through the night without having to wake up and take something. I reached out to a friend and got 4 suboxone 15 mg tags. I took one half of one every two days. Once I got done with those there was a huge difference, but still not completely gone. For the next week I was using low mg mitragyne once or twice a day to get rid of them. Finally at the end of that second week I felt normal, I had a few small symptoms still, but nothing I couldn't handle cold turkey. After another 2 days completely sober they were gone. Here I am a month later and I have my life back. It is possible and you can do it, make a plan, stick to it, when mentally prepare yourself to touch nothing ever again. It wasn't easy, but one of the most important decisions I've ever made. If you can't do it alone reach out for help there are resources there for you

Planning on quitting cold turkey this upcoming Tuesday. I have no money for supplements or food for several days. So the first 5 days of quitting are going to be absolutely raw and I’m guessing very brutal. Is it possible to get through these first few days without having to check myself into a hospital or having some kind of medical episode? I’ll be by myself and just a small room to get clean. Any advice, suggestions, or your own personal experience with a similar experience would be appreciated. Thank you and I’m really hoping I could do this.