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Production musicale, synthétiseurs et ingénierie sonore.

i accidentally started recognizing chord changes just by listening and it surprised me

i never really sat down to properly learn ear training. mostly just played songs, messed around, and learned bits of theory here and there

but recently i’ve noticed when listening to songs, i sometimes catch when it goes from major to minor, or when something resolves back to the “home” chord

it’s not consistent, and i definitely can’t name everything yet, but it feels like my ears are slowly catching up without me deliberately practicing it

is this how ear training usually develops?

like more of a gradual side effect of playing, rather than something you always need to train directly

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u/lmao_exe — 4 hours ago
Visualizing Major scales on piano with a new visual model
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Visualizing Major scales on piano with a new visual model

Via Alexandra Smith on Facebook

u/mkr7 — 16 hours ago
Image 1 — Moog System 12 restoration
Image 2 — Moog System 12 restoration
Image 3 — Moog System 12 restoration
Image 4 — Moog System 12 restoration
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Moog System 12 restoration

Working on restoring a Moog from 1972, such an honor

I love these tropical fish :)

u/edgecr4ft — 11 hours ago
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Cool stuff under $100?

I'm looking for another fun noise machine and I don't want to spend too much on it. I would like to get something under $100 and I'm curious what the best bang for my buck would be. I'd honestly be down for anything, from a multifx pedal to a cheap drum machine, or even a mixer for feedback loops.

u/SlimVIII — 13 hours ago

From an educational channel to a music channel. Any suggestions?

Hey everyone,

I run an educational channel for aspiring musicians, but I want to create a personal channel for my original compositions. It currently has almost 4000 subscribers and is less than two years old. I'm experienced in creating educational content, but I really don't know how to make a music channel stand out. The two are very different.

What makes things difficult is that I'm a composer, and I can only create realistic mockups using sample libraries. If the music is strong, I don't think this would be a problem, but if I were a singer, it would probably be easier. If people can associate a face with the music, even through a low-quality video, it could still work, but can I still grab people's attention?

Any experience in this field?

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u/Choice_Attention_123 — 1 hour ago
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Recorded some jams on Engram, my generative audio sampler project

I've been nose down on this project for a few months now and just moved into testing with a crew of professional artists and hobbyists. It's a sampler with built-in voice control and tiny generative audio models that create and glitch new sounds in real time.

I finally had a chance recently to step away from coding and soldering to make a few jams with it. If the project seems cool to you, I've got an old-school email list going where I'm going to post updates: https://engram.audio

Happy to geek out or answer questions.

ETA: I've also started an Instagram if you want to follow along with development: https://www.instagram.com/thoughtful.audio/

ETA2: I appreciate the level-headed constructive criticism that some have given. Some are misinterpreting the amount of "AI" that went into the arrangements in these clips because I have maybe unwisely edited them down for punchiness. Each of those brief loops took me 30 minutes to an hour of normal sampling workflow to create. No different than loading some weird shit you found onto an MPC and seeing what you can do with it. The examples build on generated samples that are around 4 seconds long. Here is an example of an unedited sample that I used in a longer video. The samples that Engram generates do not hold on their own as actual music.

Some have also leveled very harsh and unwarranted personal criticism toward me for creating this project. You don't have to like what I'm doing, but I ask you to chill out and remember you're talking to a human being. I'm closer to you as a person than I am to the forces in the world that are pissing you off.

u/lightleaks_ — 24 hours ago
How can a composer with little production knowledge begin to make orchestral music?
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How can a composer with little production knowledge begin to make orchestral music?

Hi everyone! As the title suggests, I'm a composer, and in regards to production and audio engineering - I know only the basics. I use FL Studio. I'm currently working on an indie game which aims for *some* commercial success. What I mean by this - I'm not someone merely looking to experiment with free, but limited libraries like LABS or BBC Discover. I want to make something which sounds relatively professional and modern, using mostly orchestral/acoustic instruments, with some electronic elements.

Here are some refs of how I would like my songs to sound:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYIJF1nbgTk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ssoHoyppDo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXEjU3Orkvg

A couple more refs, leaning a bit more into the electronic side:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3q2cYGrbXOA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLHvRifRS9U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmc4PI7Jfho (except the synths wouldn't be so 8-bit)

I've heard composers like to use a single instrument library, that way they can make their songs sound very good without getting stuck in the paralysis of choosing between tens of plugins for each instrument. On the other hand, I would still like to have some options, as no plugin is universal. My question is, would Kontakt 8, for example, strike this balance? Is it realistic to expect I can make an entire soundtrack only with Kontakt 8? I read there's a wide variety of instruments included when you buy it.

I know I also need mixing and mastering plug-ins, such as reverb, compression, etc. But afaik, I don't need paid versions of these, and free versions such as Kilohearts Essentials or even just the stock FL plugins would be enough. Am I on the right track with this thinking?

(I hope these don't violate rule 9 of the sub... but I can't find a weekly gear thread, so I have nowhere else to ask this)

One last thing. Any tutorial I can find on YouTube regarding orchestral music is about composition, which is something I'm already good at. The rare videos concerning the production cover only the basics, which I already know. What even is the direction I should take to start? Are there any good resources you would recommend?

Let me know if I should provide more info! I realize this post is a bit all over the place lol, I feel directionless and so any help is greatly appreciated :))

u/UncleSpoon_AuntyFork — 1 hour ago

Juno 106 - working out a feeling on a snow day

It’s one those days today - the weather oracles all predict a foot of snow, everybody in town has their stuff ready to go for things to be shut down all day, people are looking out their windows waiting for the storm to come… and halfway through the day, nothing has happened and no storm materialized yet. No shade to the meteorologists out there; my track record for predicting the future isn’t great either, but there’s always a feeling out there on days like this. Somewhere between the nerves of the gruff voice in our heads that knows *storm’s out there somewhere still could be a-comin* and the disappointed little kid that wants the fury of Mother Nature immediately dumped at our doorstep, everyone feels a little of this same thing. I tried channeling some of that feeling into a lil melody on the Juno.

Juno 106 with PWM and triangle waves, chorus 2 per youzh, and some space echo.

u/GiantXylophone — 9 hours ago

Does anyone have resources explaining equal temperament vs other tuning systems?

I'm trying to understand what's going on here, and the history of it. I understand that if you tune a piano to a perfect C major scale with just temperament, it will sound more in tune to the natural ratios, but would be impossible to play every other key on (G# for instance). Equal temperament places every key slightly out of tune, but allows you to play any key you want relatively in-tune.

Was Bach's "Well Tempered Clavier" the first major collection of music to be written in equal temperament? If so, was Bach trying to say that each key, with this new system, has its own "character"? As opposed to just tuning, in which he thought that each key was the same and didn't have a distinct character?

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u/papiforyou — 40 minutes ago

Why do my iPhone voice memo recordings sound better than my actual mixes?

Sometimes literally just placing my iPhone next to my monitors and recording the track through Voice Memos sounds cooler to me than my actual finished mixes.

There’s something about the iPhone compression, especially in the low end, plus the slightly gluey sound, and this kind of “found footage” realism that makes it feel more modern and vibey in a way my clean mix doesn’t always capture.

The only downside is that it lacks clarity and detail compared to the proper mix.

Has anyone tried blending their finished mix with an iPhone recording like this? If so, what’s the best way to do it without running into phase issues or weird artifacts?

Thanks.

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u/KenFromSuccession — 7 hours ago
How can a composer with little production knowledge begin to make orchestral music?

How can a composer with little production knowledge begin to make orchestral music?

Hi everyone! As the title suggests, I'm a composer, and in regards to production and audio engineering - I know only the basics. I use FL Studio. I'm currently working on an indie game which aims for *some* commercial success. What I mean by this - I'm not someone merely looking to experiment with free, but limited libraries like LABS or BBC Discover. I want to make something which sounds relatively professional and modern, using mostly orchestral/acoustic instruments, with some electronic elements.

Here are some refs of how I would like my songs to sound:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYIJF1nbgTk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ssoHoyppDo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXEjU3Orkvg

A couple more refs, leaning a bit more into the electronic side:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3q2cYGrbXOA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLHvRifRS9U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmc4PI7Jfho (except the synths wouldn't be so 8-bit)

I've heard composers like to use a single instrument library, that way they can make their songs sound very good without getting stuck in the paralysis of choosing between tens of plugins for each instrument. On the other hand, I would still like to have some options, as no plugin is universal. My question is, would Kontakt 8, for example, strike this balance? Is it realistic to expect I can make an entire soundtrack only with Kontakt 8? I read there's a wide variety of instruments included when you buy it.

I know I also need mixing and mastering plug-ins, such as reverb, compression, etc. But afaik, I don't need paid versions of these, and free versions such as Kilohearts Essentials or even just the stock FL plugins would be enough. Am I on the right track with this thinking?

One last thing. Any tutorial I can find on YouTube regarding orchestral music is about composition, which is something I'm already good at. The rare videos concerning the production cover only the basics, which I already know. What even is the direction I should take to start? Are there any good resources you would recommend?

I hope this post doesn't violate the rules. I think it's too specific and intertwined of a situation for me to put in any of the weekly threads. And let me know if I should provide more info! I feel directionless and so any help is greatly appreciated :))

u/UncleSpoon_AuntyFork — 1 hour ago

Double Tracking Melodic Synths?

tl;dr: is it a good practice to double track synths, on lets say a melodic synth, on a dubstep drop or other types of electronic music? (dnb)

so i've produced dnb for a while now, and on the drop, i just make my melodic synth and that's it, add reverb or whatever else. but recently i've gotten into a lot of metallica and other things like that and i am aware that they double or quad track their guitars to make them wide and stereo and sound great.

i thought my melodic synths sounded fine before, but i've started wondering if this is something i could do to them too? i've listened to many dnb and dubstep artists and it really doesnt sound like they double track them or anything.

of course im aware too that if i just simply copy and paste the synth i made and pan it hard L and R then it will sound bad and weird when the song is in mono. but i'm making my synths with NI massive and serum so i can slightly change the synth or even turn off that setting where a different sound plays each time the synth plays (idk what its called sorry).

so since no artists do this on electronic music im wondering if its a good thing to step up my production and sound design in this genre and make my music sound better and different to what alot of other people are doing.

and btw this music is mostly played at raves and clubs on those huge speakers so would it sound good on those too?

additional question: all the authentic records from metallica and other bands have the natural room reverb on their drums and guitars etc.. would this sound okay on this electronic music i am talking about? or should i just stick to regular reverb instead of some nice room simulated reverb on the drums and stuff.

thank you for reading!

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u/Icxyy — 2 hours ago

Yamaha mo8 insight

Im considering getting a mo8 to gig and bring around to play. Its around 600 and my other options the Arturo’s keylab mk2 88

I’m prioritizing keybed cause I am a pianist and I HATE a bad keybed.

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u/Subject-Ad-307 — 10 minutes ago

struggling what I'll should buy?

Hello guys. I'm very new in this industry so I do struggle what I should to pick the Waldorf Protein or Blofeld? that would be for Techno. i'm already hacv Digitakt, Waldorf Rocket, behringer Model d and Microfreak. Thank you for you advice in advance.

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u/DuoLittleMice — 11 minutes ago
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Why do some people seem to be anti-saturation?

I've noticed in this sub that quite a few people have been pretty dismissive of saturation, saying it's overrated, overused, not actually that important, snake oil, etc. The sentiment often come up in conversations about tape emulation plugins or when people are looking for a more analog sound (which means different things to different people).

I find this really puzzling:

For the vast majority of recorded music history, saturation has been a part of the process. It wasn't intentional, but it was inseparable from the process because the only way to process the sound was to to send it through hardware that would impart all kinds of harmonic distortion.

From the first recorded music in 1860 until the late 1990's, multiple types of hardware saturation were present in the signal chain of virtually every recorded audio (tubes, transformers, transistors, coils, tape, etc.). And again, more often than not, it was a combination of a few of them in sequence.

I believe that our collective ears are subconsciously used to the "warmth" of saturation because for the most part, it has been there the whole time.

In 1999, Ricky Martin released "Livin La Vida Loca", which if I'm correct, was the first #1 US hit to be recorded and mixed entirely "in the box".

A year before that, SPL release The Machine Head, a piece of hardware that was supposed to add tape saturation to the signal in a studio where tape was most likely no longer being used. Even back then, right at the turn of the tide, they realized something was missing and corrected it. Right at the exact moment that things "went digital", intentional saturation became more popular.

Now we have people going back to tape, and for those still "in the box", there are countless saturation plugins and emulations to choose from.

My point is, there really has never been a time where saturation wasn't a part of the process. It's just that at the beginning is was byproduct of a purely analog signal chain, and now it is intentional.

TL;DR:

Saturation has always been a part of the process. Now, we just have more control over it. Why leave it out?

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u/Poopypantsplanet — 17 hours ago
Reading sheet music and determining the harmony
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Reading sheet music and determining the harmony

I am really struggling to identify the chord progression from a piece.

First: Yes, I can read sheet music. Yes, I know my chords, honestly quite well. If you ask me to name the notes of any major or minor triad, any major/minor/dominant 7th, and in any inversion, I can do it easily/play them easily on the piano AND the guitar pretty much instantly. I also know about other chords like diminished, augmented, sus, add, 9, 11, 13. Now I'm not going to say I can instantly recall these but I can easily derive them.

Despite this, if you hand me a piece and ask me to tell you the chord progression from the sheet music, I never can do it. It seems like absolutely no song, no matter how basic, uses chord progressions with "obvious" chords. It seems like there is always some omissions, always some strange tone added, etc.

My process for attempting it is this:

  1. Identify key of song to help determine context (I use the key signature and then play a bit of it to see if it resolves to the major or minor of that key signature)

  2. For each measure, identify all the notes being played (and I do this across both the bass and treble clef)

  3. see if the notes played belong to any of the diatonic chords. If not, consider the chords within the parallel or relative minor. if not, consider things like secondary dominants.

  4. So often it seems like the chords played omit certain tones, and so I consider if perhaps the chord is omitting the 5th say in a 7th chord, etc.

I literally get nowhere with this method. I am clearly doing something wrong. I also don't know when a tone should be considered a "non-chord" tone and thus ignored from this "analysis".

Let me do an example from a pretty basic piece, which to me seems to be in G major:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4liWweR89uo

The first four measures are playing CFG and CDF. The key is G major, and since these are natural, I would think maybe these chords come from G minor. In G minor, C F, G is what I would call Csus4. Also in G minor, we have C D F which would seems to remind me of a Dminor7 with the fifth omitted. SO would I be write to say this piece, which is in G major, begins in G minor with a Csus4 leading to a Dmin7 (omit 5)?

Continuing on to measure 5, we have C and E in the treble and C, G, A in the bass. In the context of G major, especially with the ii7 being A minor, I can't imagine this being anything else besides Am7, which from my knowledge consists of A, C, E, G.

IN measure 6, B, A, G in the bass, D in the treble. To me, G, B, D, is obviously a G major chord which is diatonic, but what the heck is that A doing in there? How would I interpret that. My best guess here is that this is a Gadd9.

I mean we can continue here, but I want to know the following:

  1. Did I do this right?

  2. Is my method a good one?

  3. How do you know when to ignore a tone as a non-chord tone and thus omit from this analysis? If a tone is intentionally selected by the composer to not be a chord tone, then this would lead me to a faulty conclusion about the progression.

  4. Is it possible for there to be multiple "answers" where two people derive the chord progression, are effectively saying the same thing but doing it differently?

PS: I have a teacher, she just wants to focus on learning piano technique/mechanics for now AND studying theory independently, and she says we will apply it to songs starting in 6 or so months... but I'm an engineer by trade so not understanding this stuff drives me crazy because i always need to know what i'm doing/playing.

u/Musicman2568 — 5 hours ago

Synths that can do 90s-style complex pads?

I got a K2000r in a gear swap recently but decided to sell it as it was very complex to program with the LCD screen, and since I'd been downsizing my stuff lately I parted with it, thinking surely I could just recreate these sounds using VSTs...

...that said I should've settled on an alternative solution before I sold it (*facepalm*)

Here's an example of the kinds of sounds I was getting out of it and intended to use (recorded directly from the K2000r): https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZoT8yYNkVdyyteI2csEkxPeuP7q-vK4Q/view?usp=sharing

By the sounds of it that patch is a basic waveform (saw I think), perhaps with noise, run through a filter sweep with sample and hold on the resonance parameter with some modulation on the S&H speed etc. Might be two layers, with one layer going through a HPF to create the air-iness? Dunno.

I love these kinds of obviously-digital, modulated pads, with filters that are precise and SEM-like (?), to my ears anyway. That 90s/early-2000s complex digital synth feel.

What are my options without dealing with aging hardware?

The characteristics of this "kind" of synths are:

  • ROMplers in terms of oscillators/sound source (samples, single-cycle waveforms)
  • Multimbrality
  • Loads of modulation

Here's the kind of context where you'd find these sort of digital pad sounds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Q8H_XZNfjI (from 1999), but also the earlier mid-90s stuff.

I know that Korg has a Triton VST. Also, the JV1080 can be got for cheap but it's old hardware that can fail these days, and again, tedious LCD screen-based workflow (I assume anyway). I just need the end result, don't need to reproduce the 90s workflow.

In terms of hardware, if it comes down to it, I could get one of the later Kurzweils VAST synths? I believe that subsequent iterations are "supersets" of the preceding ones, right?

Of course, I may be just imagining a "category" of synth type for a certain kind of sound that can be created with modern VSTs, and I just need to learn more advanced synthesis, but on the other hand I don't want to follow a red herring and waste loads of time/effort, hence I'm asking here.

Also, some of the DnB guys used samples from CDs and recordings and processed them. I mean I guess I can just use a sampler plugin. I do want to create my own harmonies, not just play play samples at different rates...so a sampler with lots of functions, akin to an actual ROMPler.

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u/Lonely-Click-8301 — 6 hours ago
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