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[Article] Cheaper UB cards
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[Article] Cheaper UB cards

Hey y'all, Eli from Draftsim here with an article by our writer, Herko. Today, Herko took a look at certain cards that are affected by the "Universes Beyond Discount"

I guess it could be called the TMNT discount, because tons of cards from the set are considerably cheaper than their In-Universe counterparts.

  • Standard prints of [[Food Chain]] are currently sitting around $50. TMC's print is only $26.
  • [[Commander's Plate]] usually goes for around $40. TMC's print is only $26.
  • [[Sword of Hearth and Home]] usually clocks in around $25. TMC's is only $13.

I'm not blind to the fact that most people disliked the art, that has to be a motivating factor. However, a powerful card is a powerful card. I'd personally prefer a regular copy of any of these cards, but I think having a slightly more budget option for highly sought after cards is actually a good thing.

What do y'all think? Is the art just too heinous, or is it worth it for the power?

u/Eli-Draftsim — 7 hours ago
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What is your buy point for in universe and UB products?

Ive been thinking about this in my own and am curious what your general point is. I know this varies by the sets specific value, but sometimes the best deals are on preorders so you need to commit without information. Below is my list:

Universes within:
Play box $110.
Commander decks $35 (usually bought as a set).
Collector box $340

Universes Beyond (fantasy IP):
Play box $125.
Commander decks $42.
Collector box $380.

For non fantasy UB like marvel I have the same lines as universe within.

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u/Alternate_Cost — 5 hours ago
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Help! A customer received a bubble wrapped booster box damaged...

As the title explains, I sent out a mint booster box in bubble wrap with USPS, and the buyer is claiming there's a "tiny cut" on the side of the ETB. The box is $500, and I'm scared of a few things:

If I accept a return, how much would I lose?
If I don't accept a return, I might get a bad rating, which would bring me down to 80%.
Is this a possible scam? What if they send it back mostly resealed and claim it was the tear?

I assume this is due to USPS, but I'm not sure how, since the whole thing was wrapped beforehand. What would be an acceptable refund percentage for something like this?

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u/Oniqed — 1 hour ago
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Why do people think that prices will tank this weekend?

Every time I open this sub and see a post about the value of a card going up or down after pre release, I see people saying “chill it’ll go down once the set releases”.

Haven’t people realised that by now, pre release EQUALS release (at least in Europe)? For instance, this weekend, no one will get Strixhaven since everything sold out as pre release sale.

Which means that cards won’t get much cheaper from now on.

EDIT: I’ll be more precise and spell out EUROPE

EDIT 2: I’m talking about more expensive cards, not the regular 5-50€ cards

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u/Adept-Memory — 6 hours ago
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Vampiric tutor should have fallen in price by now (change my mind)

With vampiric tutor having so many reprints and hundreds of them available for sale on major retailers you’d expect (supply +) (demand =) price should gradually fall. Am I crazy!

u/Real_trippy — 8 hours ago
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Secret Lair Island 1479 is about to go to the moon!

Supply dwindling steadily for the past couple of months, only 9 sellers left on TCGplayer.

u/Weekly-Ad353 — 1 hour ago
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TCG store owners, what are your biggest pain points with selling cards via your website?

I'm developing a cheaper, non-Shopify alternative to Binder POS.

What do you wish you could do on your website that you can't do already.

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u/Phishstixxx — 7 hours ago
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Gaea’s cradle is currently the most expensive gold border card and is still seeing uptrend in price

Largely due to demand in premodern where most events allow GB cards, cradle sees play in a few archetypes in premodern including 4 offs in elves and 1 to 2 offs in Madness and some survival decks.

While not officially listed as “accepted” or “legal” in the premodern site, the community largely embraces GB cards. Some folks choose the GB version as a lower cost alternative such as cursed scroll, powder keg, ancient tomb etc, while some intentionally “pimp” their decks with GB. Certain cards are thought to look better such as 5/6th edition City of brass, and even Llanowar wastes with the GB version costing more than the original apocalypse version.

With the Urza version of cradle continue climbing to sky high price it will be interesting to see where the GB lands

u/Newez — 24 hours ago
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Strixhaven Mystic Archive Japanese Art versions.

I pulled 3 Japanese Mystic Archive cards at prerelease last week in 1 pack. Needless to say I was excited to see the Vampiric Tutor, then the Silver Scroll Berserk. I know prices drop quickly on cards like this, and I've already decided to keep the cards for the long run. My question for everyone is how far to they think they'll drop? Friday they each were in the $380 range and are looking to hit $200 before the next couple days. How far do you think they'll fall? Do you think these treatments will actually create much value in the future?

My friend bought a Japanese anime version of the Llanowar elves non-foil maybe 18 months ago for around $90 and it has held at about $88-90. That is the only thing that I have had to compare it to.

Thoughts?

u/kpbergman — 11 hours ago
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Actually wondering

I haven’t played in years but I’m still trying to figure out a valid reason why this card isn’t playable. I’ve looked into it but haven’t had any valid reason. Just an honest question though.

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u/Fun-Ad1753 — 16 hours ago
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Emeritus of Woe is a trap.

Right now Emeritus of Woe is the most expensive card in Secrets of Strixhaven (excluding mystical archive.) Do I think the card is good? Yes. Do I think it warrants the $33 price tag? No, and I want to break down why-

  • 6 total mana is needed to cast her and tutor.

  • To tutor again you will need to have her to survive 2 additional turn cycles.

  • The first turn cycle you will need two other creatures to die, which isn't hard to do, but is situational. That does require setup. Are we expecting to sac 2 creatures every single turn? I mean, it's very possible but again, situational.

  • There's just an abundance of better tutors for a sacrifice deck- Demonic Tutor, Diabolic Intent, Vampiric tutor, Hoarding Broodlord, etc.

I'm just confused by this price tag. It's a good card, but I don't believe it's CEDH good. It feels more like a casual card IMO and that's ok. Does that mean it will hold the $33 price long term? I personally would be offloading this asap.

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u/Scott13Pippen — 1 day ago
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Is Flashback a trap?

Lets talk about flashback.

Many people with me who saw this card went a little nuts at the idea of a 1 mana snapcaster mage without a body. It triggers prowess, its 50% more efficient than snap mage, in fact the only way they could make it more efficient would be if they made it free/gave the card itself flashback.

But somewhere in the back of my mind theres a voice going “aren’t you overstating its usefulness?” And I have to explore that thought for a bit.

Lets list some cons:

- doesn’t work with free spells

- doesn’t work with overload

- is a dead card in isolation

If you look at the above, flashback on a counter would now make most mana efficient counters a tad uncomfortably expensive. Why not just slot in the extra counter? Or the situation of it being a bit uncomfortable in your opening hand where you’d rather have an actual thing to cast.

Obviously I am looking for cons here now, since the pros are absolutely there. In edh, the higher your bracket the better the card. And in general, this card is super power creep resistant. In fact, this card only grows in power with creep. I’m not sure how its being discussed and tested in legacy and vintage but I can imagine this card opens up some unique play lines that weren’t quite there prior to its existence.

So lets discuss, is this card a trap? Or are we looking an easy 10-20x from where we are right now?

u/stahpurkillinme — 1 day ago
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Hasbro reports earnings this Thursday AH, expect strong guidance on UB strength and future collabs

WOTC parent Hasbro (HAS) is going to report earnings after market close on Thursday 4/23. I expect in-line expectations for WOTC since not much time has passed since the last earnings release, but guidance should be very strong with Marvel Superheroes, Reality Fracture, Hobbit, and Star Trek all on deck.

People loved ECL and seems like SOS is going to be a smash in-universe hit this year. With Star Trek being after Reality Fracture, and the success of EOE (Hello $500 CBBs) they're likely going to try and reserve all possible printing space that they can from the industrial printers and really make products that span the market segment. TMNT's strength is a massive massive sign that things are going well at WOTC.

Amazon direct sales are also a big booster to WOTC finances as it means they can capture more of the sale, and with the increase in SKUs I think this won't burn hobby stores as much as it has in the past. Stores are also putting in maximum sized orders to distributors also signaling strong demand across the board.

Yes, we know hasbro revenue is driven by distributors buying at the wholesale level and not magic players at the LGS. You don't need to be the 200th person posting that idea. The whole thesis is that MTG throughput sales are extremely positive, and that even a weak set has maximal ordering because LGSs have to keep ordering to get access to Hobbit/Star Trek, and LGSs/distribution will continue to take the good and bad at high volumes.

Yes, we know WOTC makes most of Hasbro's money, it doesn't matter at this point. UB sells cards and brings in new players. I personally like the UB sets more than in-universe though that's a near universally unpopular opinion on social media.

Oh, and also expecting some huge UB collaborations for 2027/2028. I believe MARO when he says they've already locked up a collab bigger than Final Fantasy.

This isn't WSB but I'm positioned with Jun/Sept/Jan/Mar 100/105/110/115+ calls.

Previous thread(s) here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/mtgfinance/comments/1r0ertm/mtg_and_dd_parent_company_hasbro_has_reports/

https://www.reddit.com/r/mtgfinance/comments/1qu6r39/wotc_parent_hasbro_has_rising_before_210_earnings/

https://www.reddit.com/r/mtgfinance/comments/1q5vb91/hasbro_wotc_parent_breaking_out_of_6_month_range/

https://www.reddit.com/r/mtgfinance/comments/1iu5ibi/hasbro_reports_above_expected_revenue_wotc

The oldest thread I posted has many many people in there saying the LOTR set would easily outsell the FF set.

Bonus WSB post with equally bad takes: https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/1r0evu7/magic_the_gathering_parent_hasbro_has_earnings/

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u/mulletstation — 1 day ago
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Weekend Wrap Up! What was real and what was a trap?

What happened over the weekend and what do you think about it? Was it just hype? What if it's a real change? What do you think will happen going forward? Also feel free to use this space to discuss anything MTG Finance related.

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u/DaTaco — 1 day ago
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Is there a market for this sort of thing?

I was just going to put it up on ebay with a .99 auction, but figured I'd do a little bit of due diligence.

It has a little bit of a story. I was opening some packs out of a fresh booster box, and noticed that one of the packs was open from the bottom. Went through the pack and found this guy. I think what happened was it slid out as whatever machine was crimping the pack, so it cut off the card, crimped the bottom of it, and couldn't seal properly.

Anyway, was just wondering if these kinds of cards had any interest or value. Thanks!

u/MSUKirsch — 21 hours ago
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The one ring potential reprint?

Saw that a few online stores have reduced the price of the standard print of The One Ring, are we thinking that a reprint is imminent in the hobbit? And how would that affect the current value?

I know it won’t be reprinted in the main, standard legal set but opinions around me are heavily in favor of it being reprinted on a bonus sheet.

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u/athlaka916 — 2 days ago
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Secrets of Strixhaven (SOS) Prerelease Kits

I recently purchased some Secrets of Strixhaven pre-release kits after judging this to be a rather popular set. I wanted to see what some other opinions were about the value of these kinds of kits in the short and long term.

u/theDCwastes — 1 day ago