r/AgendaHotel

A big plot point in season 1 were Exorcists leaving their weapons behind in Hell after the Exterminations so much so they were able to give Hell and or specifically Carmilla enough weapons to build a lucrative business from them, but this is strange for a couple of reasons.

We only see Exorcists carry melee weapons and we see they only ever carry about one weapon per Exorcist, so how tf are they losing their weapons? You don’t just stab a person and then drop your sword or axe or spear or whatever. Not to mention, Exorcists don’t have magic, they can’t summon new weapons instantly, so unless Adam was constantly opening portals for them to go restock back in Heaven, why wouldn’t they recover their own weapons??? The show implies they barely faced any proper resistance from the demons until the Season 1 Finale, so it would be hard to lose their weapons.

So keeping that in mind, how did Carmilla obtain so much Angelic Steel? She would realistically have so little, seeing as there has only been a week’s worth of Exterminations.

Like sure the harrassment was bad and stuff but every subreddit for this show is post after post saying this was at best poorly thought out and its not even broken a million views and has a greater dislike ratio than Unhappy Campers.

Now they as usual did a merch drop with the video and ive yet to see anyone even mention that so that's probably not selling and I cant imagine Sharkrobot will be to thrilled with that.

And lastly while Viv has her little team of Yesmen on Blusky analytics dont lie and she cant force people to like Chaz

Stolas had no fucking reason to just Aura farm against DHORKS and then just leave them. IMP already killed literally every other agent in the building, wtf was the point in keeping them alive other than to use them again for future skits??

Lute is actually a good character with potential but they STILL managed to fuck her up!! Vaggi had no reason to let her live (ik it was to piss Lute off but still, cmon bruh), and even though she did, they didn't give Lute shit in season two except for a banger ass song. And she's not going to be the main villain of season three, POSSIBLY not even season four. They kept her alive and for what? To be a filler villain with wasted potential? At that point they should've just killed her and kept Adam alive, Jesus Christ.

And these stupid little cherubs, OH. MY LORD. WHY DIDN'T IMP JUST FUCKING KILL THEM?? WHY THROW THEM BACK THROUGH THE PORTAL?? it's not like they were gonna face any repercussions for killing them cuz nobody gave a fuck!! I just know the only reason the writers didn't kill them off is the same reason they didn't kill off DHORKS: to use them for future episodes when plot device ass characters are needed. Lord have mercy.

And then Chaz... THIS. FUCKING. CUNT. Adam is the main antagonist of season one, yet he gets three whole episodes of screen time (not including Lute's hallucinations). Chaz is a comedic relief character for a SINGLE episode who was pretty much nothing more than a plot device to further Crimson's agenda, yet he gets brought back with not only an entire short dedicated to him, but a fucking SONG too?? WHO ASKED FOR THIS 😭😭😭 plus they won't give Adam and Lute ANY merch for some reason?? Yet Chaz has a lot of merch even though he's like- the most unimportant character who serves zero purpose?? What the fuck is this bias?? not to mention it completely ruins the menacing energy around Crimson's character. It was actually unnerving when he hung Chaz's teeth on the wall. Now I just can't take his character seriously anymore lol.

Meanwhile, JUST LIKE LUTE, Adam had so much potential. Need I explain why? He was the first man, been around for thousands of years and was enabled by Heaven's corrupt system. Bringing him back as a sinner would've been the PERFECT parallel to Sir Pentious to show that just because someone is in Hell doesn't mean they can't be better, and just because someone is in Heaven doesn't mean they can't change for the worse. Why are the writers so hellbent on NOT making sinner Adam canon? I swear to God, liking this show is a curse. And making Adam a hallucination of Lute was like trying to fix a broken leg with a band aid. Absolutely atrocious writing for Adam. My husband deserves better. Vivziepop talking bout sum "I'm not afraid to kill off characters" when she can't even kill off these mfs

A lot of Hazbin Hotel fans agree that the series should redeem an actual evil character before the series is over, to empathize “anyone can be redeemed”. Lute is one of the more popular choices because she’s arguably the most redeemable off the fact that she was indoctrinated into who he is and she thinks she’s doing the right thing.

However, I don’t think Lute is being redeemed because I feel like Vaggi and Sera already changing would make it repetitive. Both do these two are characters who were part of the exterminations but are now changing for the better. To have 3 characters basically going through the same arc would be weird.

How would redemption for Lute even look? She accepts she’s wrong (which as far as I’m concerned is impossible as even the Speaker of God couldn’t convince her) and then just chills in Heaven? Heaven and Hell aren’t at war anymore, so it’s not like she can really do anything to make up for what she did, while Sera at least managed to prevent another war via trusting Emily. Lute really feels like her story is being set-up as a tragic villain who’s going to do something big in future seasons (also whether she snaps totally in season 3 or 4, I struggle to see her having an arc that won’t feel rushed).

What does this say about society? Was Adam killed off because he had the audacity to not be skinny and wear a suit?

i got nothing

With an astonishing close vote, with Lady Luck having a lead for the first 20 hours, Mad Science just barely managed to win out with a 2-1 vote over Lady Luck. Just one or two people voting differently would have sealed it for either team, so thank you to each and every person who participated.

Congrats to Mad Science for being the strongest team in Hell!

As for the announcement, it's bittersweet: I am going to stop making daily random matchup posts for now. We've done tons of matchups and bar just doing another tournament, I don't think there's a way to really progress from here without repeating a lot of the same points and arguments. Not to mention, I do have a life outside of Reddit and really can't justify spending so much time making these edits and stuff. HOWEVER, it's not the end forever. When Helluva Boss season 3 drops (or maybe for a day or two if a short gives us something good to scale) I will bring back the posts for a bit and maybe do another tournament.

Feel free to leave suggestions for future tournament ideas, whether you think we should do random teams again or a more straight forward style, if you want to see the power level rise with additions like Sera and Adam or lower by getting rid of the Sins and Seraphims entirely, if you think the votes for winners should be done differently, etc. I really appreciate any and all feedback!

But for now, this is Fork signing out. See you next time!

Does his entire war plan just fail? Or does all of Hell just wait until he catches Lucifer in some booby trap? They kind of need him to wage war on Heaven.

Since it was announced that Blitz is supposed to hit his lowest point in season 3, I've tried wrapping my head around what would cause that sort of thing and heard a few things from others on what would cause that. The most common reasons I've heard is that someone at IMP , or close to Blitz will die, or he'll loose IMP for some reason. These are plausible reasons.

But regardless of what it could be, I find myself not wanting it to be something that he's directly responsible for what could bring him to his lowest point; but if he has to be responsible in anyway I would prefer he's not the only one responsible. This in large part due to how repetitive it would be from a story perspective since we've had more than enough instances to where Blitz causes something(direct or indirect), feels bad and apologizes; regardless of the different outcomes for each reason, we don't really need another one.

If I'm being honest, I would prefer that he get to his lowest point either due to losing his sister, Barbie, because of something out of his control or a revelation about his mother that would shatter everything he knew about her and his life with her. The latter reason being the most unexpected and different than what we already have.

Thoughts?

In hindsight, it is kind of nuts Vox got that many songs.

Yesterday, in a tragedy of Shakespearian proportions, Team Good Boy's agenda was not strong enough to top the titan that is Satan. Team Mad Science wins via complete blowout with a not at all close 3-0 vote.

HERE COME THE FINALS

TEAM LADY LUCK VS TEAM MAD SCIENCE

The winner of this match and the entire tournament, just like all the posts before it, will be based on the three most upvoted comments! So make sure to upvote the people you agree with and leave your own arguments in support of your team.

May the best Agenda win!