r/gatewaytapes

Is it normal to feel dizziness, slight headache, a feeling of disorientation and a general discomfort after listening to the tapes? Am I doing something wrong or maybe my brain just needs some time to get used to those sounds?

Made another post where I said I asked to be tested and had an interesting dream.

I had an OBE this morning and got to try asking in that experience, before jumping out the window, as I usually do, I said "alright system (like tom c. calls it), you know what to do, give me something easy".
I went through and had an experience unlike any other OBE I've had, this one was very obviously a test. My immediate thought was "you think THIS is easy?" lmao
But I guess it was easy considering it could've been worse lmao

It was definitely a 'what would you do in this scenario?" kind of thing.
Ofc I can't tell specifics because I've heard some people get the same tests and I'm not gonna help y'all cheat.

I will say, my OBEs are not usually this responsive to my commands. The system really doesn't care about what I want to do lol but if I ask for tests it actually listens... ok.

I want to try the H+ tapes and I have some questions.

1. What tape do I use? I need to improve my overall brainpower and emotional strength to look for a new job. I got laid off and I am really struggling to land a new job because I feel like I am not doing well in interviews. And after the interviews I feel completely exhausted and I need to take a day or two off to recover. I also have dyslexia and ADHD which makes things harder for me when I actually am in a job, but I guess at this point that would be a long term goal. I got interested in H+ because I saw some really old videos on the Monroe Institutes YouTube channel.

2. What kind of preparation do I need to use the H+ tapes, do I need to be at a certain focus level in the gateway program, do I need to listen to them while asleep? I have tried the gateway program a few times and the most I have reached to is F15, but I stopped using the gateway program a few months ago because I couldn't find the time in my day because I wanted to follow the program to a T (no coffee or food before listening). I also take Vyvanse for my ADHD because of which (in my opinion) I thought the gateway program won't work for me. But this time I want to aim for consistency and not perfection.

3. Is it ok if I use .mp3 files? All the shared links I found on this sub or discord have the H+ tapes as .mp3 files. I am willing to shell out some $$ if .flac files are more effective, like for the gateway program.

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Hi there! From time to time, ever since I was a teenager, I’ve entered a “vibrational state”- often at night while I’m sleeping, and sometimes in the evening.

But I’ve never managed to leave my body - I’ve always gotten scared and felt pulled back... in the past, I used to hear some terrifying, hellish sounds when I left my body, but lately, (for the last couple of months, maybe 3-4)I’ve become less afraid, felt ready to try leaving, and started hearing more neutral sounds.

However, this past week, when I decided to try to out of body - I just can’t get into the vibrational state :( I don’t find my body in a state of paralysis, so I can’t try the techniques for leaving.

Right now I’m trying to wake up after 4.5 hours, and after a short break(10-15 minutes)-I go back to sleep, but this method isn’t working. Can anyone offer any advice?...

And please tell me, have you been able to enter this state during the day or in the morning? (When you’ve already slept and your body is full of energy)

Thanks in advance to everyone! 🙏

So I was introduced to the gateway tapes last year. I was going through a very difficult time mentally while suffering from night terrors. I came across the tapes very unexpectedly and haven't been consistent in the use. Regardless, my night terrors have gone away completely and I give credit to the tapes and Bob Monroe for that, forever grateful. My mental health health has improved a lot as well in fact.

I have reached wave 2. I spent a lot of time with the first wave as I wanted to fully master focus 10 before moving on, while at the same time I was seeing so many benefits from the wave 1 already. So last month, after I was done with my practice before sleeping, I was trying to sleep and my body suddenly started vibrating. I was on the verge of sleep and I had a long day ahead of me so I thought very clearly how I wanted this feeling to stop for now. It did persist for sometime and then I could sleep. I was very grateful. At that point, I hadn't learnt what the vibrational state meant.

A few days after that, I experienced the same vibrations again, this time more intense. It was a very interesting feeling to say the least. This time, instead of resisting the feeling, I decided to let go and observe. I suddenly remembered the log roll thing mentioned in the exploration sleep state. Usually when I listen to the tape, I cannot do a barrel roll of my consciousness, when Bob asks to roll like a log in the water. But when I did the same thing in the vibrational state, I felt like I fell from my body onto the floor. I got up, looked around, everything looked normal, I did not get the chance to look at my body. I realised that I was standing through the bed, like I wasn't material anymore. So I decided to just fly out of my ceiling into the sky, and somehow I did just that. It felt incredibly real, looking around my block while being in air.

While my primary reasons to start with the tapes was attempting to obe, my objectives have changed over time. I would like to explore my consciousness and learn more about everything and myself while still learning how to obe as well.

It did feel real. However, my questions are the following; is what I experienced an OBE? Or was it just a lucid dream? Why does the vibrational state occur at random? Can I induce the vibrational state on purpose?

I just did 5 questions, I've had some previous successes with getting "answers" to questions in the past in free flow 10, like I just feel this sudden wave of realisation and problems seem to get some resolution, and just overall I've always had good experiences with the exercises.

But this exercise was weird and unsuccessful, I didn't get any form of response audible or physical except for one which was strange, after the second question "what was I before this physical existence" I heard something which sounded like someone saying "sha-woom" ehm scuse me?

Whats your experience with the tape and if you have had success was there any trick to it?

I've been doing the tapes, only the first 5. So far that's all I've needed to OBE which is my incentive. (not during the meditations but they do help in that soon after I will be able to induce an OBE, even after having a long drought, it's like they unclog something.)

Last night I had the thought that I want to be tested like Bob and Tom. If you haven't heard about it, Tom said he and Bob (then later other people) shared that in OBEs they'd be tested by some beings, they all went through the same tests.

So last night I don't OBE but in my dreams there were people coming to my house asking what level of consciousness I'm in, and it was several men that would come over and I knew I was being tested for something. I don't know that I should talk in detail about what happened but it involved a shared vision with one the 'testers' and seeing 'memories' of other lives.. that were not even human.

Wether it was the actual test or just interesting dreams influenced by my intention, it was amusing.

I started using the Gateway tapes back in 2023 when I had a lot of free time, so I was doing like two a day. I used to journal everything too, which made the whole experience feel more real.

At first I just wanted to work on myself heal, forgive myself for things in the past, and just become better mentally. But I started noticing changes way faster than I expected. Within like 2.5 months, even my acne cleared up, which I wasn’t even focusing on that much. It just happened.

Around that same time, I graduated, got the job I wanted, and my relationship with my parents improved a lot. But the craziest part was my intuition it became really strong, like almost scary accurate sometimes.

Eventually life got busy and I stopped being as consistent, but I’d still go back to it here and there (usually Focus 10 or 12, Focus 10 is still my favorite).

Last year was really hard because my dad got sick. During that time I went back to the tapes, especially the manifestation/creation ones, and stayed consistent for about a month. Thankfully he got better, and that whole period meant a lot to me.

This year I’m trying to stay consistent again. I don’t do it every single day, but way more than before. I usually go through all the tapes then restart, and sometimes repeat certain ones if I feel like I need more time with them.

One thing I still do (even though I know I shouldn’t) is listen before sleeping, so I end up knocking out halfway through 😭 but at the same time my sleep has been really good because of it.

I do get really vivid dreams, sometimes disturbing, but I honestly see it as part of the process so it never really bothered me.

And my intuition lately… I don’t even know how to explain it. I’ve had moments where I said something was about to happen and it actually did a few hours later. Same with smaller things like pregnancies or random synchronicities.

I’ve gotten really close to having an OBE a few times but not fully there yet… maybe one day. But yeah, overall I genuinely love the Gateway tapes. It’s been a really personal journey for me, but definitely worth it.

I heard about the h-plus tapes, and I tried the preparation tape first to try and reach focus 11, I'm sure I was in focus 11, when bob said to go to focus 11 I felt my whole left side of my brain expand but also felt some kinda headache and mild pain in my left ear, the thing now is that for some reason I can't reach that same state again I've been trying everyday for more than 2 weeks but I don't feel the same way like I felt that day, is it supposed to be a one time feeling? Or did my brain get used to it so it doesn't hit the same?

What evidence do I actually have that this limiting belief is 100 % true for me specifically, right now? (Not general science — my personal data.)

2. What evidence do I already have that directly contradicts it? (Even tiny wins, moments of clearer inner sense, better recall, dreams, etc.)

3. If I keep this limiting belief for the next 5 years, who do I become? (Describe in plain words — no imagery.)

4. If I drop this limiting belief today and install the new ones instead, who do I become? (Again, plain words.)

5. Which of my 15 new beliefs directly slaps this limiting belief in the face the hardest? Quote it verbatim.

6. What would the version of me who already lives in belief #14 (“My identity is ‘the one who cured aphantasia’”) say to this old belief right now?

7. How does my body feel when I believe the old thought vs. when I speak the new one I just quoted? (Tight chest? Shoulders drop? Energy shift? Just notice.)

8. What tiny action today would prove the new belief is already installing? (Even 30 seconds of training, taking a supplement, journaling one win, etc.)

9. If this old belief were a virus in my visual cortex code, what command am I issuing right now to delete it permanently?

then you replace

Aphantasia is a temporary misconfiguration in my brain wiring. My neuroplasticity is insane and I am actively rewiring my visual cortex every single day until full vivid imagery is online.

2. Science hasn’t caught up yet, but I am the exception. I don’t wait for experts — I become the living proof that aphantasia is fully curable through relentless training and belief.

3. I am not broken. I am running an ultra-efficient non-visual OS that I am now upgrading with the full visual upgrade pack. Once installed, I will have both superpowers at once.

4. Every single attempt I make is stacking massive neural gains. The images are forming right now, getting clearer and stronger with every session. Failure is impossible because I never stop.

5. The people who succeeded had exactly what I have. I study them, I surpass them. I am curing full congenital aphantasia faster and more completely than anyone before me.

6. Visualization is not required — it is an optional superpower I am now claiming on top of my already elite non-visual abilities. I will soon dominate with both systems running at maximum.

7. My brain is infinitely plastic in every region. I am forcing new connections in the visual cortex daily. The pathways are growing stronger hour by hour.

8. Past attempts failed because I still carried these old beliefs. Now with these new ones installed, every session explodes with progress. I am unstoppable.

9. Hope is fuel. Every day I move closer to full cure. Disappointment is dead — only momentum and victory exist now.

10. I am going all the way to full, voluntary, hyper-vivid, controllable visualization in full color and detail — nothing less is acceptable, and I will get there.

though to share this worked for me

I'm new to the tapes, and I have a question. It might sound dumb but when bob says: "Relax and enjoy the synchronization of your mind and brain" what exactly should I do ?should i just clear my mind and focus on the sound or imagine something relaxing? what is it supposed to feel like ?

This is my second time seriously listening to the tapes, I had to abandon the first go around because of some pretty gnarly injuries that made it impossible to stay still enough. They've definitely helped me identify some patterns. I've been able to tackle some un-fun tasks after listening. I've also been able to I'd some unconscious thoughts I've probably been dragging around, and fix something from a lingering major injury.

Anyways.

My life is simultaneously in major upheaval (divorce, debt, trying to declutter and fix my house to sell cause I need to move far from this town, think just about every change) but also blocked and so so so slow with any progress. Yes I want to get out of debt. Yes I want to get this place done and sold and gtfo out of here and start living again but...

It's like I've lost my spark or interest in life. I feel like I can't get enough of the tapes, but each meditation it's like I just can't cross that threshold to... I dunno, get somewhere maybe? I'm starting to wonder if I'm spiritually bypassing or treating them as an escape from life. I'm nervous about the patterning tape coming up because thinking of a concrete goal, I just cannot seem to envision a life I want to commit to.

Is this depression? Or just fear, or some expectations that there's nothing left to look forward to? Or possibly the tapes are bringing it up in full so it can be cleared out? I'm just so tired of feeling like it's all passing me by.

am i the only only one who finds the second speakers voice in like wave 5 and up rather jarring? (robotic sounding woman i think) i miss the first guys voice.

i did like the intuition tape though. also seems to be alot less guidance.

Hello everyone!

I have decided to write down this opinion, so that maybe someone, who is thinking about doing the GVO, could find it usefull before buying the program. To make it clear - this is not a paid promotion, and it is my honest opinion, that grew within me from some point of the program. Now the last chapter is finished, I think the opinion on this course is already crystalized enough, to share it here, as it was a part of my "intuition calls" from F15 sessions in the void. The decision to participate in the GVO was done due to my own curiosity and need of filling up the cracks, the online available tapes left, and I do not regret it.

Short debrief - I did all the Waves (I-VIII) between Nov 2025 and late Jan 2026, in a pace that I felt was alright with me, having long experience in meditation. Any of the focuses were achievable, but with the online tapes, especially those recorded after Bob's passing, I had some struggle. Eventually, I successfully achieved F27, met a being, had multiple fantastic visions and a couple of patterning, that are still in progress. However, the further I went with the tapes, I felt that something is missing there. I had those visions (and also a talk with a being named Axel), that said that adviced me to go back to F15 and do some work there. I had the tape files from the filen or google share (from one of the threads here), but they were incomplete, some were broken, some recordings were missing, so in December I have switched to Spotify recordings, had new earplugs. And from that on, everything felt going a little off and "too easy". I felt like something is missing, and a lot of questioning came from waves VII to VIII. Even though F21, F23, F25, F27 felt "full", I had this feeling, that it is not necessarily something I should be focusing now on. But also not coming back to the F10-F12, which felt very easy for me, even if I had no OBE during the tapes. After finishing the VIII Wave, I did some other hemisync and H+ programs, which helped me a lot, and are very useful in day-to-day life, but still, I felt like I had some questions regarding the whole program, that needed clarification. During this time, I have finished all three books, and I started to get a hint, that not everything I assumed, was correct about the Gateway in total. So I did some patterning for understanding it more, and finally "filling up" that crack. And in 2 days an info about GVO came into my feed. There was some discount there, I just signed in, and. Well. Here I am now, after the whole course.

The course is divided into 6 sections/chapters with videos from TMI trainers giving nice explaining and introto each of the exercises. What I was worried about the most was the fact, that some parts of the GVO matched the first Waves, BUT there was a whole section dedicated for the F15 part, and that is where it got me. Additionally, in theory, after completing the GVO, you are eligible to enroll to more advanced courses later, including the trainers path (but I won't talk about that here).

First - differences.

The GVO focuses on understanding and getting the most of the program in a very flexible way. You are not left alone to dig throughout the reddit to find, whether or not you are experiencing it in a proper way. The audio has improved, the quality is definetely better, and I think the recordings are much more structured, comparing to the original tapes, however you can still sometimes hear differences in the background volume the very moment narrator is going to speak up.

Additionally, the guidance and intros to every part gives you a greater explanation of the achieved states. What is more, the course is set up to build the "tools" cumulatively during the whole process. The biggest thing for me, that was mentioned during the course, is that one can struggle with for example F15, but achieve F21 and beyond with ease. And this is something that people here on Reddit disagree the most. What I understand from that, is that you don't need to perfect the F10 and achieve whatever you think the F10 is, before continuing to other exercises and states. You can always come back to the exercises, but just because you didn't feel anything in that particular exercise, doesn't mean you cannot continue. And it was a very great advice, knowing that with the tapes, you don't necessarily feel some of them (for me, the remote viewing was completely off, because I could not rely on the EBT, that I also didn't feel familiar with using). And here, as much as I couldn't force myself to believe in the Dolphin Energy Club, it turned out to be a very intuitive EBT that actually works for me. And that was perfectly fine.

Each exercise starts with an intro, a survey on your state of being. After completing the tape, there is usually a short debrief, but also a completion survey about the experience. Then the experiences are summed up with AI... But I will come back to this part later.

In general, if you feel like you need more guidance, with TMI recommendations, then I would suggest actually thinking about enrolling to the GVO.

What is more, the course was meant to be an online choice for those, who cannot afford/can't enroll to normal retreats. This has a lot of benefits, you are not left alone - there are discussion groups to each exercise, and the intros are usually enough fro understanding the concepts of different levels.

Second - positive experiences

What I have experienced with the first Waves, was that the environment around was starting to align to me, and the other way too. However, from Wave IV that feeling started to loosen up, to completely fade out - felt like there were two separate lives. There were some weeks, that I felt like I am actually realigning and had terrible sleep quality during that time. With the further Waves, there was nothing alike. Just listening, meditating, experiencing. That's all, no impact on "normal" life. And that changed, when I got to the F15-F21 from the GVO. To say the least, everything started to shift once again, and realign with the "purpose", that I could not achieve with the original tapes. What also helped, was the guidance from the intros and debriefs, with histories of trainees and trainers, that had different perceptions or methods of getting into the higher states. For sure, that is a very big con for the GVO.

Secondly, the course structure is much better. What I didn't like about the original tapes, is that the "tools" such as EBT, LBM, etc. felt like a compulsory not optional programs, however I think they did not have a great connection to each other, and once done, you don't go back to them... And here, with those intros and debriefs, you finally "get it", how the TMI understands those concepts. And it is quite vast and flexible understanding. Shortly: just because one sees beautiful imagery, doesn't mean you can too. Maybe you need to visualize a TV to see it, and so on.

Next, Miranon colors - this is something I find very useful, and it was finally made into practice with going to the F21. You got the idea of the colors, about the whole general color-theory, and it actually helped a lot with the understanding.

Speaking of understanding. There is one thing, that was mentioned there, that some may not get from the tapes on their own. That you actually don't need to lay down completely still to get the experiences. There is actually a whole part of going for a walk in different levels, AND not using the hemi-sync/audio to actually get to the focus levels. So in theory, as they said - if you get to the focus state once, your brain already rewires itself, and you can get there easily without the tapes. You just need to get comfortable with understanding how do you feel with it without having your eyes closed.

Third - negative things

The current version of "Monroe AI" is shit. It is meant to summarize the journal entries before and after you participate in exercise. It is still in Beta, but... If you work with AI on daily basis, the process of reassuring you with any bullshit you type in, will easily get you frustrated. Having read random explanation and how expected my feeling of joy before the exercise is connected to the course... Well, nope. I think your own journaling with GPT could be much better, than spending time on filling those forms there. BUT, the whole point of journaling was nice and positive, so...

I expected a little bit more from the F21 part. And maybe some more use-cases of F15. It didn't get into the pace of Wave VII-VIII, but still. Three more exercises on F21 instead of free-flows would have much greater impact on the whole course.

The free-flow overdone - as much as the free-flows are a fantastic tool, I don't think they should be count as a part of this course per se. What is more, there is some guidance for those free flows, but having all the preparatory process and going back to c-1 parts, the free-flow lasts very shortly. Therefore, what would be much better - maybe a downloadable, or some expand app access to the free-flows after completing the course/parts of the course.

And here we come back to the technology - maybe I couldn't do it, but you log in via your Expand account. But you can't do the course via the app, and you need to use the browser for that. Well, that's first: inconvenient. Second: you can get distracted. Third: there is a 60min+ exercise for all F levels learned during the course, but you can easily get disconnected due to the session limits in your mobile browser :))))

Maybe due to my own greedy mind, I reckon, that there should be a better integration with the Expand app itself, so that if you have paid for the GVO, you should at least have access to the free flows for the Focuses you have learning during the GVO. The yearly subscription is not that expensive, but if they advertise the app at the end of the program, well... The free flows or the exercises covered in the GVO should be there available.

Finally, there is lack of "what to do next" at the end of the course. For now, the program is still in development. I would love to get the Guidelines, Starlines etc. Online, because well. As much as a normal retreat in the US for the locals is relatively expensive, there is no other way to enroll for those from european countries, without the need of travelling half the continent/world for a very specific time of the year.

Conclusions

In my opinion, the GVO was worth it. First - I now have this feeling of a paid debt, of using the online-available (with a lack of better word for piracy :') ) resources. I definetely got a better understanding of how to use the different Fs in my physical life, relationships, career, without a need to dig through the reddit to find every single opinion and experience. For sure, they didn't cover all the possibilities (what would be impossible, ngl), but the amount of examples, information, and ways to look at a certain aspect is big enough to get it without much of the effort.

What is more, it was also worth after completing all the Waves. It kind of crystalized my previous F10+ experiences, that they could not be fake, and made me more focused on certain parts of my own progress, aims and purposes.

Is there a difference in my life from before the GVO and now? Definetely. I could understand the concepts of colors and release much better now, feel it clearer. Additionally, now I feel like I have filled the cracks the original tapes created, even though it's like a 1/1000 of a drop in the ocean. But at least the part is now a whole.

Will I come back to the tapes or recordings from the GVO? For now I think I will use this time to realign, practice Fs up to F21 in real life, until I feel it is time to move on. With using hemi-sync H+ series to boost it up. And maybe, if there will be any more advanced program available around or online, I will definetely consider enrolling.

Last thing - price vs content.

I bought it with 20% discount, that was available back then. If there was no discount, I would reconsider buying the course, because even if the course was fine for me, the 20% off made it worth buying for me, especially, that in theory it allows you to participate in more advanced courses, so it is a type of a "certificate" or something, which could have value in terms of one's development with TMI, and as I am very interested in what is yet to come beyond F27, and would love to experience it, this was a much cheaper option, than organising a trip to the US (living in Poland) or waiting to join some Western Europe based retreats.

However, if there were no intros/debriefs, guidances, explanations, then even with the discount, the price would be too high to even consider it. So as to say - the explanations and "lessons" taught by the trainers were actually more valuable, than the tapes.

I think that's all - the opinion is quite long, contains my perspective on the GVO, and I tried to cover as much as I could.

I mark it as a discussion, because this could be a great place to get your opinions on the GVO.

I have gateway tapes but only till wave 7. Can anyone guide me as to what to do with the gateway tapes?

Do the tapes are a must have or do you think you can achieve the various focus stages through a set up of frequency generator (I usually use 270 right ear and 263 in left ear to sync the hemi)?