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I am very skeptical about Gurus and consider Narayan Dutt shrimali ji as my guru and haven't been initiated by him and he could be an enlightened soul.

But from what I have seen is the way he presents himself in videos is what absolutely resonates with my values but what's problematic for me the way he or maybe someone else writes about him in his books is a totally different personality which puts him on a pedestal of gods .

At first I interpreted it as maybe he would be trying to show how guru should be considered which in value should be above even gods but books do so in power as well.So, I needed clarity about it and I haven't actually entered sadhna deeply and I can't until I remain doubtful about my guru.

So, I wanted to know if I should leave it or continue on with guru sadhna first to actually try to know him myself rather than relying on personalities that we see in books and videos.

I’ve often heard that for mantra siddhi or getting actual spiritual benefits from a mantra, one should chant 1.25 lakh (125,000) times per syllable/akshara of the mantra.

For example, with a Panchakshari mantra, some people calculate the total japa count based on the number of syllables in the mantra.

My question is about beej mantras in general. For example, take the beej mantra “Kleem” (क्लीं). Since it is considered a single beej syllable, would the required count just be 1.25 lakh total? Or do beej mantras follow different rules/traditions for japa counts and siddhi?

Also, when practicing a beej mantra, is it acceptable to chant only the beej itself (“क्लीं”), or is it generally recommended to chant a fuller mantra such as “ॐ क्लीं कृष्णाय नमः” instead?

I’m asking from a traditional mantra shastra perspective and would appreciate answers from people who have actually practiced or seriously studied this subject.

Hello all, we are building a platform for authentic relating and conscious dating for the Netherland that we will extend to Germany and Switzerland shortly. We would like to get some honest feedbacks about it from the tantra community (since it is targetting mainly the tantra and neo-tantra communities).

I would be glad to be able to post it here and get feedbacks from this subreddit, but not sure if it is allowed. Let me know. Namaste!

Salve nei prossimi giorni effettuerò il mio primo Rituale Tantrico, la persona a cui mi sono affidato mi propone questo:

Si inizia con un momento di accoglienza

Poi entriamo gradualmente nel corpo attraverso un'attivazione energetica fatta mediante il movimento corporeo, che serve a sciogliere le tensioni. E subito dopo, un pediluvio caldo aromatico con respirazione consapevole, che aiuta a rallentare e lasciare fuori lo stress.

Successivamente il ricevente si distende sul futon (possibilmente nudo). Sarà bendato per favorire l'ascolto corporeo. E da qui inizia il tocco sensoriale con oli naturali, accompagnato da lavoro energetico e stimolazione delle sensazioni nel corpo.

L’obiettivo del rituale è soprattutto rilassare profondamente il sistema nervoso e riportare nel corpo, staccando la mente.

Nel momento in cui entro in contatto con il corpo di chi riceve, ascolto. Sento dove trattiene, dove il corpo è chiuso…e dove invece è pronto ad aprirsi.

E il tocco si adatta.Può diventare più lento, più profondo, più avvolgente...oppure più intenso e più diretto. Posso usare le dita, la lingua, una piuma..

cambia in base alla persona che riceve. Sempre.

Durante il massaggio chi riceve non deve fare nulla.

NON DEVE MUOVERSI, NÈ PARTECIPARE.

Resta lì… e appunto, riceve. il lavoro sul corpo diventa più lento e profondo attraverso non solo il tocco ma anche il corpo a corpo dove anche io sarò nuda e userò tutto il mio corpo per risvegliare l'energia della persona presente C’è più spazio per esplorare le sensazioni e lasciare andare le tensioni e l'obiettivo è quello di offrire uno spazio di totale apertura e ascolto dove ci si permette di ricevere completamente.

Scusate il papiro, cosa mi devo aspettare? Il rituale viene eseguito in modo corretto?

Grazie per la disponibilità

Not even 1 person can confirm the case with full evidence that it works..

So please stop asking these things here.

Its all scammmer and lowlife people using your emotions to make money.

Stop and just accept and move on.

Even if you want to fight it. Do it practically, there is no magic mantra.

Hi, im an 21 year old male. I'm an bhakta of Shri ram and hanuman ji. In September 2025, My father has passed away due to high sugar levels. In his greif, i stopped worshiping shri ram and hanuman ji. It remained same till jan 26 in which my focus started shifting towards the creation of the universe. I wanted to know how universe was created as i knew about big bang but what happened before it. When researching for it, i came to know about nasidya shukta which stated that there was an consciousness present before universe expanded and lit up by light and that consciousness was hidden by the darkness. I connected that true colour of that consciousness is not white/saffron but black since it consists of all colours. I believed that we are the same consciousness which existed before the creation of universe but we cannot see it since we are blinded by our own ego.

So to remove my own ego, I did an hawan, for which i cleaned my entire house, took blessings from each god from my temple and my entire family by touching thier feets so my hawan can be successful.

Hawan samigri were mango tree woods, Cow dung uple, Black til, Kapoor and ghee.

I chanted Ram naam before started the hawan. Somehow tears started flowing from my eyes and i started crying like a kid. I never done this before and didn't felt like this even at the death of my own father. I felt like this while looking at the fire and the fire was touching my face but it didn't felt hot but it felt like cold breeze was hitting me.

I felt like i belonged there and i would eventually would go in this fire like my father so I'm nothing in this world so i have nothing to win/loose/fear/rescue even my own consciousness is not my own.

Once hawan was cooled down, i took own the bashma and applied on my forehead in an unique tilak i don't know why i made this but i named this pradakshina pundra because it's an two bindu tilak, one above and one below and there is an Rightward swirl coming from above bindu to below bindu.

Since then I'm getting an attraction towards maa kali and even I'm imagining her face whenever I'm alone.

I don't know if this is real kali or not.

Also my father was an kali vidya sadhka, He used to worship maa kali and chanted beej mantra. However, he always advised my not to worship kali as she punishes her devotees.

Please Suggest me your opinion.

This is for those feeling her call and being told to wait. And for those doing the telling. I share this not as doctrine, not as instruction — but as personal experience. Make of it what you will.

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**I didn't choose this**

I was happy with my normal life. Satisfied. Not looking for anything. Then a great injustice happened to me, and without my consent, she began entering my world.

It started subtle. YouTube recommendations I couldn't explain. Social media posts that kept finding me no matter what I did. And then the omens in daily life started stacking up in a way I couldn't rationalize away:

- Dead dog on my path

- Dead bird, dead rat

- A street seller of swords and knives — first time in my life I had ever seen someone doing that

- A road worker bloodied from an accident (he was fine after)

- Bees

- My own hand — injured and bloody

None of this makes logical sense lined up like that. I know how it sounds. But my intuition wasn't whispering — it was screaming. It wasn't fear exactly. It was recognition. Like a message delivered directly to my mind, bypassing logic entirely.

I want to be clear about my starting point: no lineage, no family history with Ma that I know of, barely any knowledge of who she was. I had just stumbled across some mantras and tried them. I was not prepared in any traditional sense. I was not initiated. I was not ready.

And still — she came.

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**What followed was not gentle**

After those early signs, the challenges arrived hard and fast. A loved one got sick. Got better. Got sick again. Then died. Then I got sick. Then even sicker — unable to move from my bed. People I trusted turned against me. I was in real danger of bodily harm. I had to flee and depend on friends just to stay safe.

I went to a local healer who identified it as a spirit attachment. That helped temporarily. But the suffering continued and kept finding new forms.

Eventually, through friends and what felt like coordinated nudges from the universe, I kept hearing about a specific ceremony that might help. I was scared and I had almost no money. I tried to attend a charity ceremony — turned out to be a scam. A student of the guru had fabricated it, claimed the ceremony site had been destroyed by a recent typhoon. In desperation I found a way to contact the guru directly, offered to help clean up whatever damage was done. I think he saw that as sincerity. That contact would matter later.

With no other option I could see, I performed a version of the ritual myself. I knew it wasn't safe. I did it anyway because I felt it was the only thing that could save me. It was shocking. But I survived it.

A week later — the guru contacted me. He offered the ceremony for free. Everything in me knew I had to go. I asked Ma for clear signs before committing. She gave them to me without hesitation. I went.

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**The ceremony was not a spa day**

I will not soften this part because softening it would be dishonest and dishonesty helps no one on this path.

I blacked out during the ceremony. When I came to, I genuinely thought everything was fine. I walked to the bathroom to freshen up — and saw in the mirror that my body was covered in injuries. The guru's staff told me what had happened: I had been shouting, become violent, completely out of control. They had to gag me and restrain me physically. The injuries were serious enough that they decided I should stay until I had healed enough to travel.

For weeks I could barely walk. Barely sit. I spent most of that time lying down. I stayed at the guru's place for almost a month, then moved to relatives to continue healing. **It took two and a half months before I could walk properly again.**

But here is what I also want you to know — that time became an unexpected blessing. I was surrounded by the guru's other patients and students. I got to observe, to listen, to absorb teachings simply by being present. There was grace inside the suffering if I was willing to see it.

Was it worth it? Yes. Without question. I would not change it.

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**After — she didn't stop guiding**

What happened after surprised me. The guru went quiet. No more messages, no more direct teachings from him. But Ma did not go quiet. She simply changed her methods.

She continued through:

- Dreams and visions — vivid, undeniable, instructive

- Signs and omens in daily life that I had by now learned to read

- A deep intuition that spoke clearly whenever I was still enough to actually listen

- Synchronicities — the right book appearing at the right time, the right person saying exactly the right thing, doors opening that had no business opening

I was guided toward teachings — scriptural study, meditative practice, direct devotional relationship with her. The thread running through all of it was her. She was the one pointing me toward what I needed, exactly when I needed it.

I won't name specific teachings or traditions because I genuinely believe that is not mine to prescribe. **What came to me came because of my personal path, my personal dharma. Yours will look different.** The most important thing I can tell you is this: listen to her. Not to me. Not to any commenter. Not to anyone as a final authority. To her. She knows what you need and she will show you — if you stay open and pay attention.

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**On offering your head**

People throw this around as a warning: *"Only approach her if you're ready to be one of the heads around her neck."*

I have experienced this. And I want to reframe it completely — because it is one of the greatest things a sadhaka can go through, not one of the most terrifying.

It is not destruction for its own sake. It is the burning away of ego, of false beliefs, of the poisonous bondages that were quietly strangling your growth and your life. It is total freedom from the version of yourself that was keeping you small and stuck. When that happens — and it is intense, I will not lie — what remains is cleaner, freer, more awake than what was there before.

**It is an honor. Not a threat.** To be tested by Ma is to be deemed ready for growth. To fear her intense form is its own kind of disrespect — she took that form because beauty and gentleness were not enough to reach you. That is love, not punishment.

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**To those doing the gatekeeping**

I respect the guru tradition deeply and sincerely. I have gurus. I am genuinely grateful for each of them. I am not here to dismiss that tradition — it is real, it is powerful, and if Ma sends you a living guru, receive that with both hands and an open heart.

But here is what I also know from lived experience: I would never have been desperate enough, sincere enough, broken-open enough to truly receive a guru's teachings if Ma had not first dragged me through her fire. That chaos created the opening. The guru walked into an opening that already existed because of what she had already done to me.

Ma does not ask whether you have a guru lined up before she begins her work. She called me before any of that existed in my life. She is clearly calling people in communities like this one — people receiving her messages, seeing her signs, feeling her pull — and being told by others to stand still and wait.

I would ask those people: on what authority are you telling someone to suppress what a Goddess is initiating in them?

To assume the worst of every sadhaka who comes forward — to treat them all as insincere, as unprepared Pashus who cannot be trusted — is not protection. It is gatekeeping. And there is an important difference. **If you want a safe, controlled, gradual path, that is completely valid. But do not impose that on someone who is being called to walk as a Vira.** You are keeping them on a bicycle with training wheels when Ma herself is asking them to ride.

There is also too much fear-mongering in these spaces from people who have little or no direct experience with Ugra deities — repeating second-hand warnings from others who had difficult experiences, presenting those as the whole truth. Tantra is not average pooja. It is not the path of passive witnessing. It is the path of Viras and Divyas. We are like Arjuna — called to battle, not called to the sidelines.

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**Real warnings — because honesty is also part of this**

None of what I've said above means you should be reckless. There are real dangers and you deserve to know them:

- **Scammers are everywhere.** They know spiritual seekers are often desperate and trusting. I was scammed directly. Be very discerning about who you give money to and who you trust with something this sacred.

- **Solo rituals carry real risk.** I did one out of pure desperation and I don't fully recommend it. But if you feel you have no choice, at minimum prepare yourself with protective mantras — Kavacham is good. For genuine emergencies, simple mantras like *Phat* (said suddenly, forcefully, like a lightning strike) or *Aham* (said like a drowning man breaking the surface for air) can help ground and protect.

- **Use caution with:** Aum/Om without supervision — in my experience it pulls you deeper into sadhana in ways that can be hard to navigate alone. Devi beej mantras like *Hrim* — they can surface very strong temptations and experiences that are difficult without someone to help you through.

- **Ignoring her call does not make things easier.** This is the hardest truth I can offer you. In my experience, the suffering grew worse and took new forms the longer I delayed or looked away. What she is trying to move through you does not dissolve because you refuse to look at it. It compounds. It finds other doors.

On timing and preparation — I want to say this clearly: **ten years of study is not the requirement.** If Ma desires it, you will be prepared in an instant. Sahasa anugraha — sudden grace — is real and it is documented across traditions. That said, failure is also part of the process. Mistakes are part of the process. No one is truly ready when called. We can only try our best, and sincerity she rewards greatly.

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**What I want to leave you with**

I came to her with almost nothing. No lineage. No initiation. No guru waiting. No preparation. Just an injustice, a broken life, a body full of omens I barely understood, and enough desperation to finally stop running.

She came anyway.

Ma never reveals herself accidentally. It may not make any sense right now — but eventually it becomes clear as day. She is the ultimate safeguard. These Ugra forms exist because safety and comfort and normalcy stopped working. A mother can only speak gently to a wayward child for so long before she must use more intense forms of love and discipline.

To be aware of Tantra at all — to feel drawn to it, to feel her — suggests some connection to it that goes beyond this lifetime. And to be called by her and refuse that call loudly, when she has already been so loud herself — I'll be honest, I find that its own kind of disrespect.

This path is like surgery where the anesthesia failed. It is chaotic, painful, and not a clean or paved road. But the results — the person you become on the other side — are worth everything you gave up to get there. Looking back, I wouldn't change a single hard thing. Because I know myself. I would not have learned those lessons any other way.

And I want to be honest about where I am now — because I am not standing here as someone who has arrived. I am still searching. Still in the middle of it. I know I carry some siddhis from this journey. I have received mantras directly from Devi and seen their real effects in the world. But I have not mastered this, and I have not yet found sufficient guidance for the next phase.

Insincere people have reached out to me wanting to use what I carry for prayogas — for their own ends. I see through it. And what I also see, clearly, is that they will suffer for their insincerity unless they choose to face that suffering intentionally through tapasya. Ma makes these things visible once your eyes are open.

For now, I treat Ma herself as my guru. I do my best to receive her guidance and act on it. It is not always easy or comfortable. Right now I am going through a significant transition in life, experiencing real material hardship. But even in this — especially in this — I can see her guiding hand. I can see how she is moving things. And I am aware, even in difficulty, of how fortunate I am to have that kind of relationship with her.

If she is calling you — and you will know, because you feel it somewhere beneath logic and language — you don't need to have everything figured out. You don't need permission. You don't need to be ready.

None of us really are.

**Jai Maa Kali** 🙏

This is a very serious situation and I am reaching out because I believe my partner is suffering from a severe spiritual backlash that has left him completely hollow. To give you the full story, we have been dealing with a lot of heavy energy and distance from last 6-7 months and I was consulting with someone who practices Tantra 2 months ago to help clear things. This practitioner first asked for money for various materials and then insisted I pay for silver nails for protection, saying it was mandatory or things would go wrong. Even when I told him I didn't have much money, he kept pushing and saying it would cause harm if I didn't pay up. It was starting to give off a very fraud-like energy, so when he eventually told me that I needed to go to a shamsan and required gold dust to finish the work otherwise the doll he made for him will only work be safe till he has buried it otherwise it will harm him so he said to go to samshan and all that, I knew he was just going to keep asking for more money because he knew I couldn't go to a shamsan myself..Because of this, I Blocked him at that point and that final shamsan part never happened. Since that moment, we got together but again separation and misunderstanding happened without even me knowing..he never communicated his feelings and now my boyfriend has changed into someone I don't even recognize. He has become like a cold rock and he keeps telling me that his darkness has finally won over his love. He says he feels dead inside and that he is empty of all feelings even for himself. He was into addiction before we met and stopped when i came but now I fear he is again fallen into addiction it is like he is being possessed by a deep numbness and he is pushing me away with so much force because he believes he is a bad person who will only make me negative. He told me that even when he saw me crying he wanted to hug me but this darkness inside him was stronger than his desire to comfort me.
He is currently blocking me and acting like a stranger who has no trust left in anything..he says youre even lying to yourself u know your parnets wont agree to our marriage..i said but we haven’t even tried yet.we have hope..but he have no hope left..and thinks i deserve better and should marry as my parents says in future. It feels as though that incomplete ritual and the negative energy from this practitioner has trapped him in a state of spiritual detachment where he can no longer access his emotions. I am terrified that the practitioner did smthin and it is lingering around him and sucking the life out of his heart because he keeps saying his love is killed and he wants to live alone in sadness forever.I love him so much that I just want to know how to undo any tie to the work that man did and how to neutralize the energy from an incomplete or potentially fraudulent ritual. Please tell me what I can do to save him from this emptiness and bring back the sweet person he used to be before this darkness took over..

My brother was quite good in studies and had been a topper since first grade, but now he keeps getting sick every other day and has gotten into drugs. How do you know if someone has done black magic on him? I’m not overthinking or anything, but I’m quite sceptical of some of my relatives.

Quite worried and have tried every other thing

I started 32 naamawali or Durga maa and Hanuman chalisa morning and evening. Abstaining from masturbation 3 days which I used to do daily, but I'm lagging in concentration on studies compared to latter Anyone here care to guide me here !?

Namaskar. I have been facing problems for a few days. I am not able to sleep as when I close my eyes I see dark entities, my body heats up, my eyes burn and I get sweaty. I’m not able to sleep at night anymore. I’m really tired because not enough sleep. I didn’t do any sadhana or anything. I have only watched post on Kaal bhairav and Tantra. Please help me if you can I don’t know what’s happening. I feel very scared.

As of now it is Chhinamasta mata .

I mean , I dunno any deity who could be worse offended in this regards consisting her strictness and love of celibacy.

To be clear , I don't worship her . I'm just not qualified and stick to Rama ,Sita and Hanuman, nor am I interested in involving myself in potentially dangerous spiritual practices , especially not ones involving fierce deities ( even versions of the ones I worship ) or celibacy ( sex is my weakness . I can control myself , but to an extent only )

It's come to the point where I can't enjoy sexual activity without fear or begging for forgiveness and praying to my own deities to convey my apologies . even trips to the bathroom become a worrisome affair .

Similarly I really don't want to create a Karmic bold with the godess through my prayers for forgiveness

I know this is a bit embarrassing. But I'm sure I'm not the only one with this problem

I’m dealing with intense lust and it’s getting hard to control my thoughts and urges. It’s affecting my focus, discipline, and overall peace of mind.

I’m specifically looking for something effective — any Vedic mantra, Shabar mantra, mudra, or spiritual practice that can help bring these urges under control quickly.

If anyone has real experience with something that genuinely helps (not just theory), please share. I’m looking for something practical that I can start using right away.