r/StopEatingSeedOils

"Clean" Deli Meats are still a group 1 carcinogen?

A while ago the World Health Org listed all deli meats as class 1 carcinogens, the same as asbestos & tobacco. I learned from a video that this was because of the added Nitrates (mutates DNA in your stomach), not exactly because of the "meat". So I stopped getting meat w/ added nitrates.

I just learned however that celery powder has natural nitrates in them, which still cause the same chemical reactions. what can we even eat now? This really upsets me.

u/Ok_Bike5687 — 11 hours ago
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Seed Oils. There is a misinformed fad that's anti seed oils. In fact, seed oils have been an essential part of people's diets for millenia.

https://www.health.harvard.edu/heart-health/seeding-doubt-the-truth-about-cooking-oils

Edit: I feel really encouraged by the upvotes. Thank you! I didn't know whether I would be above ground or under ground with this post 😆

Edit 2: I could be wrong, but I sense there's a shill or bot or two in here.

I mean, who writes a 12 paragraph post here, with a whole lot of specifics but also a lot of exaggeration, trying to cut down my post so passionately in any possible way, trying to discredit Harvard, me, any possible contradiction in what I said, many of which I answered to, who is going to do so much work to oppose me? Why?

Are there really that many people here who will be anti seed oil like their life depends on it?

u/Average_Guava — 6 days ago

Been seed oil free for 60 days and my lifelong dandruff disappeared

I did not expect this. I started cutting out seed oils because of the inflammation claims not because of my scalp. I have had dandruff since I was a teenager. Tried every shampoo and cream on the market. Nothing worked long term. About three weeks into eating no soybean canola or sunflower oil I noticed my scalp was not itchy anymore. Two months now and no flakes at all. The only thing I changed was the oil. I still eat carbs and dairy and sugar. Has anyone else had weird skin or scalp issues clear up after ditching seed oils or am I losing my mind?

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u/shadowzzzz16 — 7 hours ago

Enzymes in cheese label is actually Pfizer bioengineered ingredient?

I had seen a recent article showing that Pfizer the vaccine company in 1990 got the first bioengineered ingredient approved by the FDA and its now in 90% of cheese. It used to be made with rennet, not its not.

I got my Tillamook, and their they had it, enzymes. The ingredient is labeled as that.

What should I eat instead? I thought Tillamook was safe.

u/Ok_Market_7748 — 5 days ago

Do people genuinely think that animal fat is bad for you?

To me it has always been obvious that animal fat is healthier than a heavily processed industrial grade bottle of seed oil. I didnt know people actually think that you should avoid red meat and animal fat

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u/personalaccountt — 4 days ago

Healthy fast food still isn't healthy

i've seen some recent posts about chikfila and chipotle, one being a chickfila mac and cheese lasted 2 years in a hot truck without molding (103 ingredients btw) and chipotle having phthalates (linked to infertility) in their food.

After seeing these things a bit ago, I wonder why are people trusting these fast food places? Are people thinking places like chipotle are healthy when they have high amounts of seed oils like rice bran oil?

u/Ok_Bike5687 — 3 days ago

Years of avoiding seed oils. Blood test results.

I've intentionally avoided seed oils for years and prioritize animal fats as much as possible. I do eat a lot of eggs and sardines which can have higher amounts of omega 6 fats, so I wanted to get my blood checked.

Omega 3s:

EPA Reference range 0.2-2.3%

Mine came back at 3.5%

DHA Reference range 1.4-5.1%

Mine came back at 5.1%

DPA Reference range 0.8-1.8%

Mine came back at 2.3%

So all my omega 3s came back very high, which I was happy about.

Now Linoleic Acid, the enemy lol..

Reference range was 18.6-29.5% and mine came back low at 16.9%

So I was very happy to see low levels of Linoleic and high levels of omega 3s. Looks like the diet is working.

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u/gizram84 — 4 days ago

Corn syrup solids, locust bean gum, guar gum, carrageenan. Between seed oils and all these other additives the only good ice cream you can find is homemade.

u/fluxdeity — 8 days ago

My favorite thing about being seed oil free

No sunburns! My God, it’s incredible. I have very pale Irish skin and growing up I had some gnarly sunburns (blistering and painful). I ended up treating the sun as the enemy. On sunny days I would stay in the shade and not enjoy outdoor activities as much, always worried about another painful sunburn. But after replacing seed oils with animal fats I can actually stay out in the glorious sunshine. I still get slightly red but it never hurts or blisters. The sun is so amazing and relaxing and I can finally enjoy it!

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u/Substantial_Kiwi1830 — 4 days ago

How strict are you?

I've seen posts where people say that even the tiniest bit of seed oils will cause them symptoms.

I have no problem when i'm at home, cooking my own food, but sometimes i will be in situations where i have no other choice than to eat something i know has seed oils.

I've been doing this for around 1,5 months, and my biggest benefit is that my acne cleared up completely in less than a week, so i intend to keep doing it.

However, i don't know how "bad" it is to eat something with seed oils once in a while, like a sandwich, or a burger etc.

When i was doing keto a few years ago, it was pretty clear to me, that it wasn't a diet i was able to keep doing while also having a social life, so i'm hoping this is a little more manageable in that regard.

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u/MuchPomegranate5910 — 4 days ago

Hi all,

I love this community - you’ve helped me learn what to look out for and where to focus my attention as I clean up my diet.

I’m curious, what do you want to see on the market that you can’t find as often right now?

Is it more ACTUALLY seed oil free snacks, a clean avocado oil / tallow, clean frozen foods?

Curious to know where the market needs to improve and thus what I should be focusing on making at home instead of looking for while shopping.

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u/elmey — 9 days ago

I stopped all seed oils around a month ago, and have been very strictly following this new diet since then.

My acne cleared up in about a week, my hair started coming back to life, and i had more and more consecutive days of no brain fog, and lots of energy.

However, i started eating greek yogurt about a week ago, as i was looking for new "safe" things to add to my diet, and my experience has been pretty bad.

I have started breaking out again bad, and my energy levels have plummeted.

And worst of all, my brain fog has come back in full force.

It's confusing to me, as i thought the whole seed oils thing was "enough" for me to keep these things at bay, but something supposedly healthy like greek yogurt causes all these problems for me.

Have you experienced something like this, and do you have a solution or some tips?

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u/MuchPomegranate5910 — 7 days ago

It’s the QUANTITY that is the problem.

I think most people here and others would agree that the average American diet consumes about 20 times more omega 6 than needed. Most research and studies say its about 20 to 1 omega 6 to omega 3. Some even higher, some lower. Processed and ultra processed food is packed with omega 6. Even healthy food, like most salad dressing is loaded with omega 6. 

Proponents repeat that “Omega 6 is necessary for the human body. You must consume omega 6.”  In all these statements I never see a “quantity” mentioned.

So, water is good for you. Even neccassary for life. Without water you will die. You need water.  Would more water be better?

How about 10 times better? That would be about 8 gallons of water a day.

Ah, too much of a good thing can turn bad. Hyperhydration or Dilutional hyponatremia or Water Intoxication. All the same. Too much water.

Symptoms: Nausea, vomiting and bloating. Confusion, seizure and coma. It can also be fatal. 

But how can this be? Water is good for you, right?

It’s all in the QUANTITY.

Now back to omega 6.  What is too much and stops being good for you?

20 times?

15 times?

10 times?

5 times?

2 times?

The average American is at 20 to 25 times omega 6 compared to omega 3. 

Edit: Please post corrections, suggestions to this to make this better or if you think of a better analogy to use. Just trying to come up with a simple way to get this across to the average clueless person.

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u/Mike456R — 9 days ago

Restaurant peeps: Fryer oil swap?

We run a restaurant and have recently moved to avocado oil for cooking and emulsifying, but avocado oil still smokes out our fryer after a few hours.

For those here who work in commercial/restaurant settings: What do you use in your fryers? Thoughts on price point math? Tallow and Zero Acre are the two on my radar.

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u/shadygroveisay — 2 days ago