r/Quittingfeelfree

I’m 40, i have used drugs and alcohol one way or another my whole life, since i was 13.

I have lost a lot of people from heroin overdoses, or accidental fentynal overdoses etc.

I know that since kratom products are available over the counter that makes them harder to quit, like cigarettes. Cigs were the hardest thing for me to quit because they were available. but what kept me off of cigs was it didn’t feel good.

8 million people per year die from cigarettes

opiate deaths are 50k per year

between 2015-2025 there have been around 200 deaths related to kratom products. related, there’s no deaths reported that’s just “kratom overdose” or whatever

i understand being addicted to things is hard, but there has to be some level headedness around kratom. it is not, anything close to fentynal or heroin or oxys etc.

i have used heroin and opiates since i was 14 and kratom saved my life. i became to reliant on it and i was able to quit pretty much over night. if i have a “relapse” i can just quit again. same with 7oh and anything else.

if you want to change your life, taper off and find something else. the withdrawals are nothing, nothing, nothing close to hard drugs. i have a friend who was severely addicted to coke, he puked for a month straight every day.

i know so many people who would be dead now if they didn’t switch from heroin to kratom.

having used all of the drugs mentioned in these forums, i can not believe what i’m seeing here. i know families where there’s four kids and two of them died from fent. that’s losing someone to a drug. not some loss of self control. kratom does not kill you.

I was using 7oh for at least the past year (probably more) with brief periods of quitting but ending on 5-6 months straight at 200mg per day, sometimes more. I was able to rapidly taper for 1.5 weeks down to 30mg for my last 2 days using.

After finally jumping off, I did spend 2 nights completely sleepless and one day with flu-like symptoms. I aided myself with some MIT shots (80mg) to ease the withdrawal.

I am currently at 72 hours with no dose, and I must say that the anxiety created from horror stories on this thread lead me to believe things would be much worse.

Aside from MIT, I did mega-dose vitamin c and have trazadone to aid sleep. I took tons of vitamins and electrolytes.

Overall, it did suck but honestly not too bad. I can function right now at I’d say about 85%.

I just think there needs to be more positive stories here because I was so afraid to quit due to reading terrible experiences.

Like the title says, I was done with the grip that 7 had on me.

I’ve been on Suboxone before and it’s not even close to as bad as people suggest to get off of. It’s a cake walk compared to 7

I love Suboxone honestly

If you have questions, I have answers. Just not all the answers

I have been taking 7-oh to manage pain from a chronic condition for months. But it’s to the point now I think I take it just to prevent withdrawing from it. Running out of it has before lead to some uncomfortable nights before I could get to an open store to purchase more. I do not want to be on it anymore. It is way too expensive and I don’t like being addicted to anything like this. Letting it run my life.

I never had withdrawals from Oxycodone all the times I’ve been on it over the years. I’m currently in the hospital, about to be discharged and sent home with oxy for the pain. Will I be able to kick the 7-oh and escape withdrawals by replacing it with Oxycodone? Or will I just be in for a nightmare once the Oxycodone for pain management is gone.

I have read withdrawal from 7-OH is terrible, so I am hoping I can avoid it while taking the Oxy and just be home free afterwards. Please advise what I should expect 🙏🏻😕

Thank you!

Did you find the Suboxone just makes you feel bleh? I waited till I went into withdrawals 24 hours with no 7oh (I was taking an excess of 1000 mg per day for two years) and it definitely took the withdrawals away so I know it wasn’t precipitated withdrawals but I’ve always loved opiates and can’t keep my hands off them, but this is not an opiate. This stuff makes me feel like…- I don’t even know how to explain it, but I just feel yucky and I don’t want it. If it was truly an opioid, I would have trouble not thinking about them and wanting to take more. I dread taking my next dose because I know I’m gonna feel horrible. My wife has to force me to take one. I’d rather go into withdrawals and bang my head against a tree.
It reminds me of when I started on Zoloft and I just get that yucky feeling. There’s nothing addictive about it and it should never been put on the controlled substance list because there’s nothing desirable about it whatsoever.

How tf did y’all get off of this bs. Started a little over a year ago just experimenting and it has grown exponentially at this point. Despite countless taper attempts and even some CT tries, I still keep going and getting them. I’m up to 6 bottles a day (feel free and trumoods) I’ve been able to get down to about 3 a day and then I spring back to where I was. I’m still cognitively aware that this is breaking me down, and sucking my money dry, yet I still find myself back in the gas station up the road. I’ve been lurking here and researching for a while but I can’t seem to figure it out. It’s beginning to weigh on my relationship, as she doesn’t know about my addiction and I don’t have the courage to bring it up.

I pay $150 for a bottle of 100 3.75 alkaloids that lasts me about 10 days! I have been on them for over a year and was always able to pay cash. But I also wasn’t taking 10 a day until probably around the last 4 months. But now I’m having to charge them to my credit card and keep this all from my husband. Plus my state just banned them starting July 1st and I am freaking out. I have been through withdrawals when I was addicted to pain medication years ago and I could NOT handle it. The depression was so bad that I ended up spending $8000 to go to rapid detox. After that whole process I promised my husband I would never go there again. Well here I am again and am scared to death. I’m so lost right now. Sorry for the rambling, but I have no one I can talk to about this as I’m so ashamed of myself.

I see a lot of people talking about how they were ruining their life and savings buying 10-20 bottles a day. My understanding is they are $10 a piece and just contain mitragynine (very little to no 7-OH) and KAVA which doesn’t really have much withdrawal. So if you’re addicted to this stuff and it’s financially ruining you, 7-OH would be like a $30 a day addiction and is stronger, and kratom extract (mitragynine) can also be bought online much much much more cheaply.

So I’m just curious I guess what the thought process is for the people here. I just got off 7-OH with suboxone and now getting off suboxone with SR-17018.

I am actively trying to stop 7OH. Started with MIT, then 7OH, MGM, back to 7OH now with Pseudo. Im a former H/Fetty/Oxy addict and have been thru those withdraws more times than I care to count so Im familiar with the suffering. What is a rough timetable for duration of acute withdraws? I’ve seen anywhere from 3 days to a week then PAWS is weeks/months/years. I do have SR and SEVERAL vitamins that have been recommended. I’ve been preloading for over a week now anticipating the jump off. Thank you for any guidance!

Hey guys this group has helped me through this before and I fell back into using about a month ago after some life stressors triggered me. My wife doesn't know but I have been able to talk to my brother about it. I feel very defeated that i got back on this stuff. I'm really beating myself up for it and I've got to get my triggers and stressors resolved like I used to before I first took this crap in February.

I know what to expect with wd and I'm not concerned with the physical aspect of it. I have subs that don't have naloxone from when I used to be on them. However I am worried about the psychological wd with depression, anxiety/panic, and the insomnia. I'm used to a lot of these symptoms because I am a combat veteran with diagnosed PTSD and I remember the fight against that stuff. This stuff has really messed with my mind more than anything. But I was on psych meds for years. Sertraline, mirtazipine, trazadone, bupenorphine for years with no problems except emotional blunting and numbness which is why I got off of all of them back in November.

Well I had a tough winter with a lotta death and disappointment and I was no longer on my psych meds so naturally I sought to self medicate. I had 7oh on my radar for some time, had heard about it but never considered it because of a bad experience I had with kratom extracts in the past. Especially when I was on my psych meds, i used to take the OPMS shots until I had about a 12 hr panic attack where I was extremely agitated and restless. I was having some symptoms of seratonin syndrome. Ever since then I hadn't touched anything kratom related because of the fear I had for it from those experiences.

Guess what though, I was off my meds now and could go try this new stuff I had my eye on (7oh). Eventually I gave in and that's where all this started. Ever since February I've started and stopped twice already so this will be my 3rd go to stay away from this shit for good.

I need help from ppl who can just be there to talk to when I go through these withdrawals. I need support and some advice from you all to help me navigate PAWS and the depression that comes the week of quitting. So if anyone is interested in chatting and helping me through this week I would greatly appreciate it. I'm always open to what you all have to say and open to any and all advice that will help me through the psychological wd or what helped keep you guys from going back. Any encouragement is also welcomed.

TIA to the sub members and moderators this has been such a useful subreddit for me in dealing with this. Thank you all for whatever advice wisdom you may have.

Anyways, I have a plan in place and start seeing my psychiatrist and social worker more frequently.

I just got out of my drs appointment about an hour ago, my doctor was amazing and he prescribed me Clonidine, gabapentin, zofran and ropinirole to help me get through the withdrawals. As a 9-10 bottle a day user, I’m so done with these. They have taken over my life completely. One thing I didn’t ask my doctor was.. do I start taking all these medications once the withdrawal symptoms start or can I just start them now even though I’ve already had feel free today?? Any help is appreciated

I’m currently on day 3 of my taper from FF. I’m still on a somewhat high dose as I was regularly using 10. It’s insane to me how dependent my body and mind have become to this poison. I am trying to space out the doses and not stack them. It was odd to have a feeling of energy this morning after the gym instead of being completely sedated from stacking. I am feeling a little more anxiety today, but as another poster said, just lean into the pain. This is going to suck, I can feel that it’s going to get so much worse before it gets better. I am hoping that I can stick with the plan and lean into that pain. We can all get through this.

Never used before but I’m stopping now. Will I get withdrawal after 3 nights of 7oh use? Was initially using to get over my pregab withdrawal which has eased up a lot.

I desperately need advice on liposomal vit c brands that are trust worthy, and a scheduled dosing for the first week. I have been wanting to quit but now it is time. Suggestions and advice as soon as possible so I don’t back out. You guys are amazing.z

Hello guys I really just need to vent and need help. I have been taking 7 oh for about 9 months at first it was chill and I would only dose on weekends. But obviously my body got attached quick and my dosage ramped up to about 100-200 mg a day. Just last week i was done. This was ruining myself and the people around me. First I tried to cold turkey, but I just could now handle it. And I also want to mention I use to be a heavy pill addict and other hard drugs (xans, oxy, h) pretty much everything and I was able to get off those…but 7 is different for me I have never felt this bad of a anxiety wd to the point where I feel like I am going to go crazy. But anyways I have been tapering down for the past week and I now have a 5 day weekend before I have to go back to work and I need to lock in but it’s so hard for me when I lock myself in my room. I still have about 100 mg left just in case I can’t handle this. And I’m sorry for my poor writing and rambling on here. But what really is killing me is my girlfriend and I got into a huge fight when I was in mid withdrawal and I finally lost it I told her to leave me alone and she wouldn’t so I snapped and I said “if you don’t leave me alone I’m going to get my gun and blow my head off” and that ruined everything she called my parents and the cops and left the house. And btw I now understand that she is in the right, I should have never said that but I really did not mean it but you clearly just can’t say things like that. So now I am kicked out of my own house to give her space. We have barley talked much and this is the hardest part because she is the only one I feel like that should be here for my I miss her so much and she said she’s not gonna leave me but I’m not sure if she is just saying that because she doesn’t want me to unalive myself or if she really means that she will stick by my side. I’m trying to do everything I can to get better with therapy and my church but I really just don’t want to loose her. If someone could give me your thoughts on this that would be very helpful. And again I am sorry for the long ramble..thank you.

A lot of it was my fault, I didn’t look in to the “mood enhancing, energy producing, and stress relieving,” product before I started taking it. I didn’t even know what Kratom was. Lo and behold I was addicted to opioids about 10yrs ago and once I kicked, I never looked back. How did I get here again? Literally just being exhausted from working too much and buying some thing, “legal.” All in all Feel Free is a scam and now I see that many of us became addicted and unwillingly. I spoke to a doctor today to start Suboxone… how’d I even get here? That’s what I ask myself daily. I’m lying to my partner, I’m messing up my finances, all to make it through my 12hr days at work. It started out a bottle or two, and now a year later, some days up to 8. I’m nervous about suboxon, as you can go in to precipitated withdrawal. I hope this shit gets banned in every state.

Hey guys, my names Matt and I am a Junior in College. I got introduced to 7OH this past fall by a good friend of mine (realizing now that a good friend wouldn’t have even tried getting me to even try it) I am very skeptical about taking pills, and I will never take something that I don’t know what it is. However he was able to convince me as it was sold at a smoke shop and perfectly legal, so I didn’t think much of it! First time taking it I had never felt such a head high in my life, I also threw up 3 times. Fast forward a few months and I’m taking around 100/200 MG every weekend, I genuinely don’t know how I was able to get through the week without any CT symptoms but I guess the thought of me going back to it every weekend was enough to keep me straight. Then came winter break, which is honestly pretty long in College, I was home for a month and a half and went full cold turkey, however I also didn’t even really have bad WD symptoms then. When I get back in the middle of January for the next semester I quickly got back into it, resuming my weekend habits. However things changed about 1-2 months ago. I went from 100/200 MG on the weekends to taking it every single day of the week, spending so much money in the process. Then the inevitable happened, I stumbled across this SubReddit this past Saturday and saw people saying the withdrawals are worse then heroin, that you have to get on another drug just to kick it, that’s when reality set in. I took my last dose this previous Saturday around midnight, and I have been cold turkey ever since. Holy shit this SUCKS, my brain is running a million miles per hour all the time, I can sleep no more then 2 inconsistent hours a night, I have to use the restroom every 30 minutes just to not throw up, and I have absolutely ZERO energy to do anything. It’s now 4 days in Cold Turkey and I just don’t know if I can do it anymore, I see people saying it takes a month to kick and I don’t think I can do a month of this. So far I’m saying strong but man, do I wish I never started this bullshit.

Someone has tried quick

Per the title, i’ve only used one a day basically every day for 2 years. I’ve had 2 a day a few times on rough days because my life is pretty hectic, literally something new every single day and i travel for work so i’m not able to be at home, just makes things more stressful. Is my usage still bad? I will be honest i do feel dependant on it somedays, but I CAN go without it, i just always convince myself one won’t hurt to unwind. I work hard, pay all my bills, and take care of my family, it doesnt consume my finances but yet i still feel guilty. I’ve never been a hard drug addict, experimented in high school and weed/nicotine are the only things that stuck with me.

I do deal with depression from traumatic events that occurred throughout my childhood, and past anger issues, I only went to therapy while in middle school. Never been on any meds, feel free and i guess just kratom in general have helped with positive thoughts and productivity tremendously, But i don’t want to be deemed an addict, nobody knows besides myself.

Please be as helpful and honest with me as possible

I posted this in the comment threads, but I don't know if people are seeing it or not at the industry show in Las Vegas going on right now called champs brands are bailing. Everybody is bailing expecting a federal band in the next couple of weeks if you're gonna stock up stock up now there's going to be an excess of seven on the market when this happens but right now everybody is moving from the industry. Nobody's buying new products. Nobody's MANUFACTURING anything everybody's getting rid of access in inventory and shit. Garbage brands are popping up on the market because well-known brands are opening up sub brands to get rid of their bad in inventory and by BAD I mean stuff that has failed test that's got heavy metals lea pesticides the wrong dosage you name it that's why you're seeing all these little basement brands popping up all over the place with no QR code no test nothing steer clear of these. These are not new brands. These are current brands that are just putting their shit in a different packaging to dump it. This is not a rumor. I'm not getting the second hand. I know this for fact I've seen it with my own two eyes find a bulk supplier because what happens next the band comes Black Market steps in cartels are already here. Fake tabs hit THE MARKET full of fentanyl because it's cheaper than 7 and you know how this goes. If you have a problem start dealing with it don't get caught off guard if you need a supplier message me

Sorry about the crazy text. I use voice to text and sometimes it's a little bit retarded.