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Strings action / loss of sound - question for you pros out there

Hello everybody. After going to my luthier to adjust the sound of my fiddle (too weak, not enough projection/Volume), my luthier made a new - pretty high - brigde. The sound was indeed a bit louder (but harsher and nasal in my opinion), but after a year playing on it I ended up having tendinitis and difficulties playing fast repertoire. The luthier is actually a really good one, but unfortunately he is not able to listen to critic or customer wishes, he just do his thing. This adjustment of his really damaged my health.

Then I got pissed about it and carved a new bridge myself (from a Despiau blank Nr. 9, A-quality, hardened), with a lower action and a flatter curve (I took the Paganini bridge a a reference for the curve and strings spacing. It has a little more spacing than normal, but I've found that - to my surprise - this helps with intonation of thirds). The violin is now A LOT easier to play, faster response, easier on the fingers and a more beautiful sound in my opinion (it is not so crazy "nasal" anymore") - but of course because of the lower action it has lost again a bit of volume.

Is there a way in which I could gain a little more power? maybe with a shorter chinrest? I was also thinking about carving a new bridge myself with alternative materials that maybe couls conduct sound faster (I was thinking about ebony, altough it will be a pain to carve) - let me know your opinions

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u/N1K0DEM0 — 3 hours ago

I saw a dream about violins

I saw a dream about violins, where I was told to buy a violin to myself for about 2000 euros. I started to look through Shein and Temu webpages, but I didn't find there what I was looking for. Then I checked out the Thomann webpage, and there were sort of violins I was looking for. Then I looked at book catalogue with violins. There was even better. But voice kept telling me to buy a violin. How seriously should I take that dream? I am not a violinist, and I don't own a violin. In fact, I can't play the violin at all! I am 43 years old already. And if there was any string instrument that I really would like to learn to play, it is cello. So what do you think?

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u/Kaldeve — 7 hours ago
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Yo what is this I just started reading the Tchaikovsky violin concerto how is this lower than G am I stupid

u/dragon7832 — 18 hours ago

Rosin randomly warped

I just threw this in my case a week or two ago for my electric, which has resided inside my house. Today I took the violin to go play with some friends, so it was in my car for about 25 mins (it’s 90 today but AC was on in the car). I’m baffled since it looks like it got hot and there was an air bubble that collapsed.

I’m just a bit baffled right now.

The rosin in my Musafia case that goes with me to orchestra twice a week and is in the car with no AC going most days has never changed shape. 🤷🏼‍♀️

u/kihtay — 8 hours ago
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Color dilemma: Rosewood or Boxwood?

Current setup is rosewood, and I do like it. But now I can’t stop thinking that boxwood might actually look really good on this violin too 🎻😂

This is purely an aesthetic question. Which would you pick?

u/StrongAd5766 — 21 hours ago

Is it normal a years experienced violin teacher play out of tune often in rehersal?

Just after community orchestra rehearsal, and that violin teacher I mention earlier, always play out of tune, sometimes even produce glass scratching sound, is that normal??

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u/Asleep-University-89 — 18 hours ago

Who would I go to for help with spontaneous-onset physical health conditions impacting the ability to play violin?

I have seen a regular doctor, and we understand what I need to do to help my conditions. However, I am left with deficiencies in connective tissue causing instability most notably in my cervical spine and all down my left arm and hand (my conditions were quickly onset, and rapidly emphasized the damage I had done to my neck and arm from 14 years of violin—now according to my body its like ive played 40 years of violin it seems). I am certainly going to need a new chin rest and shoulder rest setup.

It is possible for degradation to continue, but it is much less likely now that I am beginning to treat my conditions, and because I am being cautious about returning to the violin as to not cause further mindless injury.

I dropped out of my violin performance degree bachelor’s program because I can no longer play violin in a way that is conducive to a professional career. At the time I could not attend classes due to other symptoms as well.

My fingers wobble causing unpredictable intonation, there is a deficit in fine-movement proprioception of my left hand/wrist now, and my bow arm also experiences unpredictable micro-shakes/stutters when going to complete the actions of a bow arm. The last performance I was in, I also was twitching in dystonic type movements such as my neck pulling to the side while blinking, or my thighs briefly contracting on their own. These were not drastic movements, they were small. Small, though I was petrified trying to keep it together as to not distract the audience from the soloist I was sitting behind.

So:

Every single joint i need for violin is very unstable.

Instability = inconsistency and unreliability

I need to be able to practice a scale without my finger changing micro-intonation whenever it pleases. I cannot build a habit if my body doesn’t have control over these small variables.

The medical path forward to tackle instability and weakness is physical therapy to build muscle.

I am concerned that utilizing muscles, while it may bring stability in my joints, will also add significant tension into my playing the violin. The majority of my violin work had been focusing on softening my muscles while only utilizing specific ones I needed. Utilizing gravity and momentum. In the hand particularly, when I try and play while utilizing the muscles needed for, say, my 3rd finger to ensure stability and individual finger independence and swift quiet movement, it creates an added tension which clamps the sound/more prone to injury/creates slower and tight and inefficient shifting, and a whole host of other various negative side effects as you know.

Who do you think I can talk to or work with, to find a solution to this? I imagine it will be multi-faceted. I am needing to find a solution that both helps my wellbeing in life as a human, and also as a violinist.

I am looking for stability/predictability primarily in my neck, left shoulder, left arm, left wrist, and every single small joint in my left hand. My right side needs it as well, but my left has the most intense symptoms. I need to get there without requiring extra muscle use while playing violin.

Im not sure if its possible to get my body back to how it used to be, but I am learning so much and treating mh conditions and am ready to begin moving towards a solution. It seems like I am in uncharted territory not just for me, but for a lot of medical professionals and musicians as well. I am not sure though, maybe I just feel alone because Im not aware of other musicians going through the same thing, and I haven’t found a solution yet.

Thank you for reading.

Without violin, I am lost.

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u/Former-Weather8146 — 15 hours ago

Next Question: The Bow

In the ongoing saga of preparing my nephew’s old 3/4 violin for my daughter to use in middle school orchestra:

Next up, the bow.

I was all set to just buy her a new bow on the assumption that the bow that came with this violin was probably crap.

But actually it has two bows. The orange-ish one is, I believe, even crappier than I thought it would be. Plus the hair is super sparse (half gone) and it’s a little warped, and I am sure it isn’t worth putting new hair on it.

But the other one is in much better shape. It may need new hair for no other reason than it’s been sitting around for at least 16 years, but the hair that’s on it is full and looks like it was probably pretty new when my nephew quit playing it. What I do NOT know is whether it’s a decent bow or not. I don’t have the skills or knowledge to know what to look for.

I can say it’s an octagonal design (if I’m not miscounting the sides). It’s much heavier than the round orange bow. It doesn’t seem to be warped in any way.

Does hair have to be refreshed just from age alone if it looks like it’s in good shape? I haven’t rosined it up yet since I am still also missing a string on the violin. But it does at least play.

Assuming it needs hair, should I rehair it or stick with my original plan to get a 3/4 carbon fiber bow?

I can’t find a maker’s mark on it anywhere. Any clues to whether it’s a decent bow or just a nice looking piece of junk?

u/LaLechuzaVerde — 12 hours ago

Should I get these scratches, dings, non varnished parts sorted before playing?

Hello all, I bought this violin recently and I really love it. I was looking at putting new strings on it so I took off the tailpiece and found these scratches, and at the bottom near the saddle almost gouges out of the violin. Should I get these fixed up by a luthier before playing? I don't want anything to become a crack or hole and I'm not a huge fan of the look of the patches where the bridge stands. Thankyou.

u/Frosty_Wear_6146 — 1 day ago

Quick question about head movements while playing. Is it natural to be able to do it well?

Or is it more practice?

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u/Mudslimer — 15 hours ago
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Strings too fat for legs

I’m on a roll

For questions this week.

I’m getting a hand-me-down 3/4 violin prepared for my daughter. It’s in good shape but it’s been sitting a while.

It’s a Karl Knilling violin. There is no year marked in it but I can narrow down the age based on the fact that it belonged to my nephew who played it about 16-20 years ago and it says it was made in Germany so it can’t be older than 1990.

The strings are at least 16 years old, and the fine tuners that were on the tailpiece were all dirty and stiff, plus they were a bad design and were marring the finish under the tailpiece. So I bought a whitner-style Fiddlerman tailpiece for it and Fiddlerman strings.

Well, it turns out Karl Knilling pegs have unusually tiny holes in them, and the Fiddlerman strings are too fat.

My options:

- I have precision tools that are entirely capable of boring out the holes *assuming* that there isn’t anything more technical in a peg hole than just, well, a hole in a stick.

- I could buy all new pegs and pay a luthier to fit new pegs to the violin. I’m not sure this is my best go-to solution for a violin my daughter will probably outgrow in a year, but it’s an ok backup plan in case I try option 1 and fail.

- I can find much thinner strings that will fit the pegs.

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The E string was a bit of a tight fit but worked. The A string was very difficult to install. The D string was incompatible but I’m stubborn and managed to cram it in there after shaving off a little of of the outer layer of windings. The G string was an entirely lost cause - it’s just bigger than the hole no matter what. So currently the violin only has 3 strings on it.

So… is there a very thin string set or at least a single G string I should be trying?

Is there any reason why I should NOT attempt to widen the holes a little, given that needing to replace the pegs at the luthier would be an option if it doesn’t work?

I might cross post this to violinmaking.

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u/LaLechuzaVerde — 1 day ago
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I don’t think this is how a shoulder rest works.

I left my shoulder rest on my bed for 5 minutes and came back to my cat using it as a pillow. Thought it was cute and figured I’d share!

How do you play this?

Currently debating with my community orchestra. Curious what y'all think

Edit: the issue is it's pizz, which makes it bit harder

u/blitzkrieg4 — 1 day ago

Am I holding my violin correctly?

I have been fighting with my shoulder rest and violin placement, and it’s driving me crazy.

I purchased longer forks for my shoulder rests to see which one fit better on my shoulder (Fiddlerman vs LMS), and it seems like I can’t quite get the shoulder rests high enough. My jaw bone ends up sore after trying to fit the rests on my shoulder because it digs into the chin rest. It’s all rather uncomfortable, and I’m worried that practicing before I can see my teacher next week will A) cause me to develop bad habits, such as shrugging my left shoulder, and B) hurt like crazy after 30 minutes of practicing.

As I mentioned, I’m seeing my teacher next week. I saw her for the first time last Tuesday, and she didn’t really bother checking my posture or shoulder rest placement. She’s pretty much the only show in town that I can afford since we’re a single income household at the moment while I’m in college. She charges $40/hour whereas the other places in town won’t take anything less than $270 for a month. I have an online teacher that’s wonderful, but I can only go so far with him as far as posture and violin placement.

When I place my violin on my shoulder/collarbone and let go of it, the left side of the shoulder rest slides towards me and down. The main reason I’m keeping my lesson next week is that my teacher is married to a luthier, and we’re trying out taller chin rests when I see her next. If I bring my violin straight towards me and settle the rest against my shoulder and collarbone, the chin rest is way off to the left. I have the button facing my neck, sort of in the center.

Any help is appreciated!

PS - Is my bow stretched out? I have it just tight enough to fit my pinky at the narrowest part of the hair.

PSS - I read the FAQ and did not see my answers listed.

u/Vivid_Hovercraft_129 — 2 days ago
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What do you think about the quality of these photographs?

ecently, I accepted an assignment from an orchestra colleague to photograph his violin. I usually do a bit of photography on the side, exploring additional revenue streams, but this type of photography is still quite new to me. He wants to sell the instrument, so the images were intended to support that purpose.

What do you think of the final results?

For the full-body shots, I used around eight different images with varying points of illumination, which I blended into a single final image, as I currently only own one flash.

If you have any tips or tricks for photographing instruments, I would be very grateful!

u/Himodaca — 2 days ago
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Convert

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u/Ecstatic_Win7203 — 3 days ago

Barber Violin Concerto

heyy this is my first post on here. i'm a graduate student for violin performance and i've recently started working on this piece. any advice or feedback is appreciated 🙂

also please dont mind my pet bird and her squeaks lol

u/mildlyomniscient — 1 day ago

Should i remove this plastic From my bow?

Just bought my violin 3 Days ago and noticed there is this plastic over the metalic part of the bow, should i remove It or does It serve to preserve the bow? Sorry If this is a dumb question.

u/Mixed_Martial_Autism — 2 days ago

Violin teacher NOT allowed student to tune their own violin at home before grade 6

I just had a chat with a violin teacher that in my community orchestra, I asked why a lot of those players - which is around grade 2 - 4, never tune their own violin, and ask him to tune it for them, and he said, its normal, student before ABRSM grade 6 is not allow to tune their own violin, I said i tune my own violin since grade 1, with app, and he said you cant use app to tune your own violin, the tune is depends, not absolute, you have to use ear, and student dont have good ear, whoever use app to tune their own violin in orchestra will be laugh by everyone.
Then i asked the final question, "So student just keep on practicing at home even their violin is out of tune?"
He said "Yes."
I don't know, am I crazy?? I mean, not allow to tune your own violin before grade 6? Even with app??? ( i know that teacher very dislike using app to help any kind of music abilities, and he only believe in tuning fork).

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u/Asleep-University-89 — 2 days ago