r/TheOdysseyMovie

>The Odyssey is arguably the biggest film of Nolan’s career—though, despite what has previously been reported, Thomas says, “It’s not our most expensive movie, but the film is enormous.” It may also be the summer blockbuster the struggling entertainment industry needs right now. “It is a global story that has existed for thousands of years,” says Langley. “That, coupled with Christopher Nolan’s name and what that means for cinema, which we know means a lot, and an all-star cast, it makes for a very worthy and solid commercial bet.” 

Context: A buddy, not a cinephile but watches the big movies in theaters, previous Nolan fanboy, texts me an insta post he had seen somewhere - showing Nolan's casting for Helen and Achilles. His message "If this is true, I probably won't see it."

He left room. And that's the positive part. He CAN be convinced. But the negative part, he's reacted so negatively to the casting rumors.

Now this is a tough conversation, so buckle up. For better or worse, Nolan has an extremely bro-y male fandom that loves his movies. They all loved OPPENHEIMER and thought it was one of the greatest films ever made. They love TDK movies, Inception, Interstellar obviously is the fan favorite, Tenet even, The Prestige you name it.

These fans are also ... slightly against ... how do i wanna phrase it ... alternative casting. You get my drift.

I think this is why THE ODYSSEY will be a test for Nolan - if the rumors are true. I honestly thought fanboy allegiance to him was ironclad and that he could do no wrong in the eyes of his fans and that they would go along with anything and that anything he does would be mega extra successful and that he's unquestionably the single most popular mainstream director in earth and in generations.

Well, all that is true ... until Nolan finds himself on a cultural fault line. I'm on record here on reddit saying A YEAR AGO that The Odyssey would easily blow past a billion at the box office and perhaps even 1.5 billion.

Again, all of this is a what if. IF the casting rumors are true, Nolan will need full scale support from critics to make a case. And the positive part, I think that support will come. I expect this to be a monumentally critically acclaimed film. And I think that just might, might convince the skeptical.

Elpanor is the youngest member of the Odysseus's ship crew who dies an insignificant death on Circe's Island After falling off a roof while drunk and left unburied.

Odysseus feels unbothered by his death as he wants to get home . When Odysseus reaches Hades (The Underworld), Elpanor is the first person he sees in the Underworld coming out of the ground.

This is emotionally most significant to Odysseus as it comes as a moral/personal shock to Odysseus as his crew is more important to him than his own glory, fighting monsters and gods. it shocks Odysseus because Elpanor begs him not to leave him unburied on Circe's Island.

At end of Hades , he goes back and buries the ship mate he thought as unimportant.

Note: Ryan de Quintal posted a photo of the Odysseus crew shipmates in a rememberance of last year for his birthday . Elliot Page is sitting at the end of the table.

https://preview.redd.it/ee4wmxmd5g0h1.png?width=1194&format=png&auto=webp&s=89be0947b8ee31663411681540a6853478dafadb

Or that Telemachus is played by a pale-skinned Englishman, Tom Holland. Or that Anne Hathaway, a pale-skinned American, would play Penelope. Or that another pale-skinned Englishman, Robert Pattinson, would play an Ithican suitor.

None of these people look Greek or mediterranean at all. But the chuds only seem to have a problem with Lupita.

Seems to be a mix of one of the older TV spots and the new trailer