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Image 1 — Im just gonna say it, I don’t trust pluralstar.
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Im just gonna say it, I don’t trust pluralstar.

I know some people might not like this, but I feel it’s important to know about the apps/websites you’re using, especially if you’re like me and don’t want to put sensitive information such as your altars into something that uses ai.

From what I’ve seen, the owner is surprisingly quick to be upset over simple downvotes (first photo), which is pretty petty, tbh. it’s just internet votes.

My other main problem is that it uses ai. While I understand that yes, ai can be helpful in certain situations, I just couldn't personally trust it with my altars- it messes up all the time, and there are data breaches.

I simply just have a bad vibe about plural star.

-andy

edit: I went through some comments on a post by plural star and the creator was being an absolute dick to some of the people in the comments when they pointed out that it uses ai. like genuinely rude- i really REALLY don’t trust someone if they’re gonna be a dick during a discussion.

edit 2: removed the feature parity because I didnt do my research and it wasnt actually bad, that’s my fault and i aplogize

please don’t be rude to the creator, all im doing is stating what I’ve seen so far and allowing other people to be aware of it. in all reality, if you use it or not is your decision, and its not my business. if you like it and use it, then I’m glad you found something that works for you, if you don’t use it, then that’s also great. just don’t be assholes or try to harass anyone, I think we are all exhausted by this.

u/ryvveed — 3 days ago
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Regarding SP Alternatives

I am not affiliated with Simply Plural, Octocon, or any mentioned SP alternative on this document. This is a personal project that I want to share so it can help people, not out of malice or to spread rumors about the situation. Feel free to spread it around!
Hey all! I've been working on a resource document for a little while now to make sure people can reasonably browse alternatives for specific software needs (whether you're iOS, Android, or need to use web versions of apps). This is specifically meant for the people who don't necessarily know of a place to go and don't know where to start researching. Obviously, I highly recommend using your own discretion and look into things deeply before trusting any place with your information (especially if you're a disordered system who has used Simply Plural to track medical information in the past).
I've seen a lot of vibe-coding (AI-generative coding) in the community lately and am putting a strict focus on avoiding "approving" these apps/websites for the safety of user data. I've also added as much information as I think is relevant because systemhood/plurality is a deeply personal topic to so many people, and it's best to make sure things will abide your boundaries. That being said, I think I'm finally ready to share this! I understand if it gets shot down by mods or something along those lines. Please remain civil in discussions about these platforms, do not harass any developer (controversial or otherwise), and feel free to recommend any other things that have worked out for you so I can review and add it to the lists on my time!
EDIT: On an additional note, I forgot to mention that I share ways you can back up your pre-existing Simply Plural data (front history, user reports including custom fields & custom fronts) without having to go through importing them into another system app!

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u/GlitchZone_8130 — 3 days ago
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Simply Plural - App alternative list !

- Ourcana

- Ampersand

- Lighthouse

- Pluralkit

- PluralLog

- Twinote (shutdown ????)

- Hivemind (carrd.co)

- Pluralspace

- Pluralswitch

- Constellations.okami.codes (dissociation tracker)

- Trace (dissociation)

- Collection & Inventory Tracker (collection list with a "profile" (items) and description customizable as you wish)

Viewer of your data on SP :

https://spdataviewer.straw.page/

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u/Responsible-Sea-7201 — 8 hours ago
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not an alternative, but a sp dataviewer

with the final confirmation of the server shut downs, and the lack of alternatives that offer ALL functions to view data, weve gotten desperate enough to look into vibecoding (claude), inspite our base stance being anti ai

we have no hope that there will be a propper alternative that could even come close to the amazingness of SP but accepting and finding an alternative is much easier if theres a way to ensure old data isnt lost

sooo this is what we have, a simply plural json data viewer, completley offline with local storage, can see all member info, notes and front entries, front history tab with a similar graph view like simply plural and channels with groups

its currently as a html file that opens in any browser(no need for internet) and no needed install

if anyone would be interested in testing it, our dms are open

and were sorry for resorting to this

edit: here is the drive link with what i have for now https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1O6tGoHrC8MlUX4z08wNhrLNFXh4iPJSR

wip: have to look into if the glamourised profile descriptions can work, most probably will need a first time internet access for it, have to add message boards

its built around ourown sp data, so it misses certain things we didn't use

u/rino-lino — 3 days ago
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Alternatives?

can someone send a list of alternatives (preferably with the main features and a link) that work on android so we can figure out which works best for us?

We have tried ampersand, hive mind, pluralspace, plural star and plural log

Needed features are:

•groups (with subgroups allowed)

•Cofronting allowed

Prefered features:

•alter count

•archived/dormant alter section

•can link to a discord bot (similar to octocon)

•relationship map

•different types of front ex front, co front, co con

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u/Puzzleheaded-Lion893 — 1 day ago
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Hi, I just saw that the app is shutting down soon and was wondering if theres any close alternatives, preferably not on discord and with the fronting thing and the thing for different profiles, I tried Octocon but it said thats shutting down too, so yea, please help, thank you

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u/Llamasruletheworld28 — 11 days ago
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This post was made with approval from the owner of the sub.

I've been working on this app since about February! To get to the meat of it:

The website: https://constellations.okami.codes (Support Discord server is in about page)

What we DO support:

  • Front analytics - the most detailed you've ever seen! See which alters tend to front with others, how long they tend to front, which alters tend to switch into others (for patten recognition), and more!

  • Supports large headcounts and subsystems with no issues!

  • Supports ONGOING back and forth syncing with PluralKit! Switch in PK? No problem! Import from PK and Octocon and SP supported!

  • Customise your ENTIRE layout! Prioritise what you want to see on your alters page! Make your main alters page beautiful with a custom background, image widgets, alter banners, and more!

  • Not JUST for tracking alters! Fill out DBT cards, write journal entries, track daily mood, positive affirmations, and more!

  • Has a proxy bot built to scale similarly to PluralKit! But you can also just use PluralKit when you connect it, the choice is yours!

  • Take symptomatic test to track symptoms over time in a chart! More integrations to come with this!

  • Track relationships with alters with a detailed and beautiful relationship chart!

  • Friends! You can see shared alters in your friends, you can use privacy buckets just like the way SP works! We have more granular permissions, think of them like Discord roles, where you give your friends access to seeing or managing parts of your account!

  • Custom types of switches, e.g. co-conciousness, co-fronting, etc.

  • Mark what triggered a switch - this is also used in analytics!

  • Custom fields with suggestions!

  • Integration tracking in a beautiful graph! See your progress over time!

  • Curated list of resources page! Read studies about symptoms, denial, averse experiences, and other resources for your help!

  • Beautiful custom themes for supporters!

  • Transfer your board and chat history from Simply Plural!

What we're working on:

  • Image uploads - once we break even with donations (link on the about page) - then we will fully implement image uploads!

  • Switching notifications!

  • iOS and Android app store launch! (Getting a LLC setup for Apple publishing) -> however there is an APK available in the server! And for iOS until the app is in the store, you can select "Add to Home Screen" from the safari options menu, it'll work basically the same!

  • And of course, bugs... bugs... bugs..

  • MORE expansions to the features not related to alter tracking necessarily!

  • OFFLINE mode! However you'd still have to register with us before you enable it. The way this works is when you're offline and make changes, it'll queue up to get sent to the database when you go online! Perfectly seamless!

This app is unique because it's not JUST about alter related storage, but for everyone with dissociative symptoms to have a place to engage in pro healing exercises, all in one place! Of course non-disordered plurals can use this as well - this is for everyone!

Disclaimer: This project doesn't have AI used in it.

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u/Offensive_Thoughts — 11 days ago
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Alternatives

So we've already found a couple alternatives we like, but we want to make sure we are fully decided on an app before fully inputting information.

So far the two alternatives we've liked most are Constellations and Pluralspace, though we've mainly used pluralspace as we enjoy their relationship map maker better (we personally find it annoying to use on Constellations unfortunately)

But are there any other good alternatives we should check out before deciding?

If it helps, the main features we enjoy are:

- Custom Fields

- Working groups/tags

- Relationship mapping (or even just a list on each profile showing relationships, doesn't have to be a map)

- Ability to write journals to traumadump in (This means the journal needs to be fully private and we need to be allowed to talk about taboo trauma topics in our private journal) (Ability to give journals tags is a plus but not a requirement!)

- Specific section for roles tag similar to pluralspace (this would be nice to have, but not a requirement, since we can achieve this ourselves via custom fields if needed)

- We are willing to use browser if needed, but would prefer platforms that have both web and app versions and sync across each other, as we tend to use our PC for information input and then mobile for small edits, showing fiance things, etc. Totally okay if an app version is planned but not yet released as well, as I know a lot of these platforms are very new, and making an app and getting it onto stores takes time.

- Ability to have friends who can see system information you allow them to see (Another one that would be nice, but not required)

- Habits/Task list. We haven't seen a platform have this, but it's something we've thought about and think would be cool to have if any platform has done it!

I don't really care about front tracking features as we don't use them (we forget to update after switches anyway, so it's not useful for us). We mainly use these platforms for information keeping, memory writing, traumadumps, etc.

PLEASE don't suggest AI coded platforms. We are not willing to argue about this, it is our personal preference for our safety and peace of mind.

Thank you friends :D

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u/QuirklessShiggy — 3 days ago
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imPlural Alpha 2 released for testing!

Me and my partner have been developing imPlural for about 2 months now. Given the news about Simply Plural shutting down, we wanted a good app where you can have friends and see their status easily. Nothing was really available at the time, and even now it doesn't feel there's options that feel comfortable to us. We think there are others who are in a similar boat than us.

Since we're both developers with years of experience, we thought to build an app which would have solid friends system as a core feature. Eventually we want to support more Simply Plural features and others as well depending on community interest. Here's a few things that are already in alpha 2:

  • imPlural is web based, which means you can either use it in your browser or install it on your device (with offline use supported). iOS is also supported and we're constantly working to make it feel good on iOS, Android, Mac and PC.

  • We do our best in accessibility support and thoughtful simple design so imPlural feels comfortable to use. That also means new features come out slower than many other recent apps, but we hope it pays off in building a strong foundation.

  • imPlural will stay free for everyone. Free of advertizing, free to use, available for anyone. We use community feedback and polling to inform the direction and features we work on.

  • You can import directly from Simply Plural and we will work on importing from other apps and syncing with PluralKit as we have time. We implemented an import wizard to help you import data accurately between apps and hopefully make it a painless process!

  • We do our best in accessibility support and thoughtful design so imPlural feels easy, simple and comfortable to use. That also means new features come out slower than many other recent apps, but we hope it pays off in building a strong foundation.

We're working hard on bringing online and friend capabilities in the near future. That will be the topic of alpha 3. For now though, you can help and contribute via our Discord server by applying to be a tester or translator, or just following our updates over there!

u/pileofplushies — 3 days ago
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Our system isn't taking the news of simply plurals shut down very well. Its not only a tool we use on a daily basis but its a comfort app. We've seen a lot of posts and recommendations of other apps but i (Hashfi, Host) am having a hard time getting the rest of us to agree on using any if the options. Our system doesn't like changes very much, especially ones that affect our fonction or something part of our daily routine (we do Infact have dignosed autism so thats part of it) and another issue is the fact we have parental supervision on our device, letting our mother see what apps we download and where/when we use our email. The time we downloaded simply plural we had to sit through a very uncomfortable conversation with our mom talking very vaguely about our system and there was a lot of signs she doesn't believe us and we don't feel comfortable sharing with her, and we especially don't want to trigger the conversation again. (We believe she's forgotten or seen it as a faze/exploration, which she had mentioned that she believes in that dreadful conversation) We're not sure what we expected to get from this post but we feel that it was needed to vent our frustrations about the shut down and how its going to cause major problems with our fonction.. older alters (ones that have been around longer) are worried we might end up in another crisis/depressive state with poor fonction on everyone's part, as well as the chance of triggering the self destructive alters.

Does anyone else out there feel similar frustrations about the shut down?

-Hashfi & Lumanovyx

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u/Goober_Corpse — 9 days ago
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Hi, i made a post about my app about a month ago but with the simply plural announcement going out today, and since ive changed some things, i wanted to make a new post.

First - this app was vibe coded, originally through the base44 platform, now migrated off and work is done with Claude Code.

Because of this, my top prioritiy was making everything secure - all your data is stored locally on your device and there is the option for password encyrption. Nothings going to any servers and no one can access your data except you.

The offline local version of the app can be accessed at oceans-symphony.vercel.app - there is a legacy version available as a .apk on github but its kinda out dated. Im working on getting the vercel version into .apk

Primary features

- system tracking (alters, groups, custom fields, bios, fully css customizable alter cards for in depth personalization, message board, and an @ "mentioning" system that will ping an alter with a notification when they front. (For example, make a bulletin post asking another alter to do something, and next time they are set to front, a notification will appear directing them to that bulletin! Notification history is saved. Track co-front or primary. Add alter specific custom fields or globally defined ones)

- emotions tracking (a quick check-in button is featured on the main dashboard of the app, allowing you to quickly enter as much or as little information; current front, active symptoms, habits, activity, notes. Includes a guided emotions entry, to help you figure out what youre feeling specifically when youre not sure. Preset with emotions including body + nervous system, helping you identify and track PTSD symptoms as well - if an emotion that has been set as "distressing" is entered, after the quick check in, the quick support popup will appear asking if youd like any grounding support)

- activity tracking (the activity tracker displays your activities that youve logged, so you can see what youve been up to. This also includes a tally and goals tracker, so if you have a goal of engaging in a specific activity, this will log and tally it for you)

- quick support and learning (a quick support button is available to tap at any point by pressing the bubbles icon in the bottom right corner. This will display a popup modal where you can get guided support instantly - guided breathing exercises, grounding exercises tailored to your current state, or browse through the whole section. You can also add your own grounding exercises. Check out the learning section to learn new skills for coping and self understanding. All info sourced from the Finding Solid Ground workbook.

- system map/innerworld map (the system map will automatically track fronting and cofronting patterns, to display alters relationships - the more time shared in front alongside one another, the closer they will be. Select an alter to make it the center of the circle, and all other alters are placed respective to their front time. The inner world map is a freeform canvas where you can place alters, define relationships between alters, and place "locations" - so you can easily construct your own map of the inner world! You can change the background image of locations to make it really represent your headspace.

- analytics (the app will cross examine fronting trends with symptoms, emotions, and activities, so you can see what emotions certain activites bring, what emotions are specific alters most frequently experiencing, what alters engage in which activities)

- bulletin board (use the "-" key to signpost a bulletin as the author (for example, if i write "good weather today -kane" it will set the author of that bulletin as the associated alter Kane. Multiple authors can be set for a single post, and if there is no signpost the current front will be set as the author. Use the "@" key to mention another alter, and next time they are set to front a notification will display alerting them and directing to where they were mentioned)

- polls

- jounaling

- guided low pressure system check in

- daily, weekly, monthly, yearly task tracking

- therapy report - export a summary of information within a time frame

- timeline, lets you view basically everything and anything youve done within the app in a day/day basis, chronological infinite scrolling, retroactively add in checkins or change front history.

- "custom statuses" - a small note you can enter at any time, which will appear on the timeline, good for putting quick notes to leave context for other alters.

- notifications and reminders - this still needs a bit of love, the quick actions arent working quite right but theyre generally functioning.

- customize with configurable language and different themes

- import from SP

This app is not designed as a full SP replacement and i have no plans of adding any friends or online features, it is designed as a companion app for dissociative systems (but i encourage any and everyone to use it if theyre interested!). It was designed to fill a personal void i was experiencing.

The offline local version of the app can be accessed at oceans-symphony.vercel.app - there is a legacy version available as a .apk on github but its kinda out dated. Im working on getting the vercel version into .apk

u/penumbrias — 11 days ago
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amaralliys said they would be doing a self host option. it has been now 2 months with no update. im very worried its not going to come thru. the reason why i havent switched ti a different app yet is bc i have to get messages out that i need ti remember and stuff. just a plethura of thigns. i am busy with projects and do not have time withing a month to get this all done and moved. nor do i remember everything atm. im hoping fingers crossed something happens.

well there could be another side of this. is there someone who made a self host for sp yet? i need a sign please im really worried rn

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u/XenonLights12 — 13 days ago
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I'd like any alternative sites or apps that can be used for mapping innerworld locations. It doesn't have to be detailed, I'd prefer visual mapping but it's okay if it's just location logging instead.

Our devices are an android phone and a windows desktop so it doesn't need to be just mobile friendly stuff ^^

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u/Sulphur_Collective — 9 days ago
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Anyone know any alternatives for a LARGE system on iPad? I'd prefer something with simply plural importing since we have 400+ members and it'd take forever to do manually

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u/Mr_NoName-Kid — 11 days ago
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I've been debating switching over to hivemind for a goodwhile now, I've been switching over our SP stuff to ambersand, but i wanted to know if hivemins is better before we actually put all of our stuff in it, we're very confused about how to navigate both the apps and just uuuughh, just confused and the system's opinion on it is very divided Any other suggestion aside from these two is also appreciated

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u/Affectionate-Win-490 — 11 days ago
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Hi, I’m looking for a new plural app. I just need something that will take the token from Simply Plural and keep our alter file notes safe. We have a partner that passed away, and they left a bunch of notes on our SP, and we can’t lose those.
We are on Apple and prefer an app. If not, a website would work. I just can’t lose these stupid notes. And there are so many. I just need this one thing badly.

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u/Neonblue039 — 9 days ago
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Sorry ik this is the ten millionth post like this but I didn't see any posts with this specific question

I've actually been an octocon user but with the bs regarding that I want to switch to another thing I really enjoyed the direct ability to log a switch on the app and it would do a proxy is there any alternatives like that?

Android apps not websites

The more the merrier

No AI generated stuff pls 🙏

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u/JELLYZFISHYZ — 10 days ago