r/Psychosophy

I think I’m LFEV but I’m the complete opposite of 2F
I’m definitely 1L and 3E but I don’t relate to any second position at all (L and E included)

why is that?

thoughts on this combo? i was looking into ashley graves and seeing what people are typing her as and the general consensus/what i personally think is sx8 VExx. thoughts on the combo?

The first function is unconscious and strong, and its really hard to type your first function when self typing. any tips on typing it? or should i just force my friends to read syntax of love and then type me? TwT (im a XLFE blueprint but 1V description is entirely napoleon)

First and foremost, logic. I’m wordy, ranty, confident, tbh think I’m pretty smart and will debate just about anything, even with lackluster facts at hand, pulling from a theoretical understanding I’ve accumulated. I love arguing and would feel severely bothered by a life of silence or constant agreement. I want to take other people’s points of view in and generally try to leave every conversation knowing a little more. Everyone has some information you don’t have. I don’t do details unless the subject actually interests me.

Next comes emotion. I know I have 3rd or 4th emotion, I don’t really know what to do with other people’s emotions and don’t feel anything for a good part of the day. I don’t usually like being influenced emotionally, as it feels manipulative. I ocasionally cry, mostly to really sad media or once in a while actually having feelings. I am kind of empathetic, but it’s not a defining quality for sure. I know how to go for the throat with someone’s insecurities, which might be 3E or 3V tbh. I don’t usually do so but I do perceive the option as “available”. I don’t usually talk about my emotions unless I’m close to someone and usually drunk. I do kind of have some amount of deeper emotions, but usually I’m either not conscious of them or don’t want to talk them. Thus, my affect is usually jokeful and pretty light-hearted. I can be provocative, for example with very offensive humor, as I do like to stir the pot for entertainment (and then lay back and enjoy). I don’t have a problem with expressing rage and happiness, the rest of the emotions are harder as they make me feel soft & weak and it’s not how I like to be perceived. They are my weakest link though, as I will feel guilty upon hurting someone even in a mild way and usually it’s an aspect that gets to control me to some degree, because the other 3 will only control me situationally. I’m not a very emotional person, though.

Physics. I enjoy sex, food, risk taking and adrenaline in general - it makes me feel very alive. I’m kind of impulsive but usually in physics a quick consequence analysis makes me back off before acting violently. I enjoy violence and think it’s generally the most fundamental way of human conflict - the way to impose your will. I don’t feel confident in my ability to beat some up but I do feel confident in my ability to beat most up. I don’t easily take to suggestions in the physical realm, even though I suck at it. My only real solution in here is throwing excess at things, whether that be force, or say, “dealing” with stress by eating a cool 3000 calories. I then usually deal with the issue. I dress like shit unless there is a good reason to dress in any other way (I like comfy clothes, although recently I’ve upgraded to a normie look which is still comfy) and have repeatedly been told I am extremely careless in this realm. I’ve conditioned my friends to flinch when I dap them up because I like to do it full force. I don’t usually have good physical awareness. I do have some insecurity w body image and looks - that part is more sensitive - but I do feel confident in throwing force into shit.

Volition. I’m pretty sure it’s aggressive. I passionately hate being told what to do unless I specifically accept it. I do like negotiating it with people, although I have a tendency to assume they’re going to do a shitty job. Now, I do believe I will do a good job, which leads me to overwork myself at times. I used to be “mr give up” although recently (1yr ago) I took that privilege away from myself and refuse to let myself give up, as it made me feel like shit about myself. I sometimes give up but it’s at minor/useless goals. I am very competitive, although I can get bored of it. I understand how power and hierarchies work, although I generally see myself as outside them entirely. I can be very snake-like if it’s going to get me what I want, as I default to assuming that asking for it is likelier to fail. Sometimes I do ask for it directly. I am usually kind of honest, although there’s a couple lies I do tell for instrumental reasons. Most of my friend groups are separate for similar reasons. I can try to lead, although don’t like to lead if people don’t kind of support me - I won’t usually impose it. Usually prefer to do things by myself for that reason, as I don’t have to deal with that whole process. I have a bit of a counterphobic tendency, wherein I’ll bluff strength in the face of a challenge and bluff confidence, making the other person have to take the choice of calling me on it and risk it not being a bluff, or back down. I’m kind of petty although usually give up on it quickly as it feels very pointless.

I don’t have a problem with obsessing with a goal and just relentlessly pushing for it, sacrificing wellbeing, emotional wellbeing, sleep, health, etc. This is one of my best strengths, along with being quick-witted, creative at my approaches and pretty good at “people”. I might even be inneficient, but once I’m obsessed enough, giving up feels forbidden even if I want to.

I usually disregard rules unless the consequences are actually real. I enjoy that. I don’t really care for validation too much although I can’t really say I don’t care for it at all. I do have some self doubt, although sometimes I ask for people’s opinion just to get mine to pop up (usually not the same but it can be).

Recently I’ve been reflecting on integrating an issue, on one hand I would like to be an unstoppable force, but on the other hand, I do like having good relationships with more softness. I do ocasionally want to indulge in some softness, though I don’t like to admit it.

Day to day, I’m usually pretty chill/nice, although pretty busy with a gazillion things. I don’t mind being a total prick for the goals of people I value or respect, matter of fact I enjoy it. I just don’t like to always be an asshole.

VLFE 4313 or FLVE 4323 seem like the likeliest picks. I don’t feel super 3V although I don’t think I’m this hyperassertive corporate ladder climber. Matter of fact, my current life-plan leads to self employment.

Got any ideas?

Yeah so. As the title said.

The problem is that I feel like both fourth physics and fourth emotion.

In the physics department, I’m quite a messy person and I don’t really mind it. As long as I can still get everything done I’m fine. But I do love aesthetics and I dream of having an aesthetic life, though I’d definitely struggle a lot of maintain it. Messes don’t bother me much but i get annoyed when my mom (2F) tells me to clean them because i don think it’s important. I don’t really care about my health, it’s definitely not a conscious priority for me. Of course I’m not trying to get sick actively. I’m quite away of my body and what I feel, somehow I can feel an illness developing and take preventative medicine? I’m not good at physical things, I genuinely hate movement and exercise in general. It just feels pointless to me. I do not eat healthily, I only eat for pleasure and really hunger doesn’t bother me. If there’s nothing fun to eat, I just don’t eat. My sense of aesthetics and lifestyle is very very easily influenced by those around me and i always pick up the habits of those of higher physics functions around me. I’m very materialistic, I love money, and other things but everyone loves money. I want to have enough money that not having it will never bother me again and then never think about it. I’m very focused on accumulating more money, but paradoxically I always tend to give my money to friends in small amounts if they want it. I give things to my friends pretty easily, I’m not stingy nor am I territorial of my stuff. I just feel as if I don’t have the power to defend myself. I don’t really care about my appearance but I do think I could be prettier.

In the emotional aspect, I’d never use my emotions to influence any of my decisions. I’m a very bright person who’s quite dramatic on the surface but most of the emotions I present I don’t actually feel. I struggle to understand the emotions of others or even caring about them but I still try to do so. I want to be emotionally intelligent but I’m not. I’m not emotional I’ve never been emotional, as a kid i could never cry for more than two minutes because id get bored. I don’t have to actively suppress my emotions much because I don’t, have many emotions. Whenever I watch an emotional piece of media I find myself crying, not because I feel sad I just cry? If I want to understand the emotions of others I have to spend a lot of time thinking about it (relying on higher functions) and I generally just like to be direct and ask how they feel. I’m very interested in how others feel about me and I can be quite a romantic at times.

Neither blows to the physics or emotional area really affect me. If I was called ugly, I guess I’d be bummed. If I was beat up, I’d just take it. (Once I was being strangled and I just stood there lmao) If someone attacked me emotionally, actually I’m not sure what that’d even be. I don’t spend much time thinking about either physics or emotional. Actually the only thing I think is actually process is my 2L. I’d type as 1F but there’s about a 0% chance I’m 4V.

I used to think that I was 1E, because I’ve always been quite emotional and empathetic. But I’m not sure anymore that I was evaluating my traits correctly. Now I can say for sure that even though I am emotional, I can be somewhat dry when it comes to reacting to other people’s situations. I get tired quickly when someone mostly talks about their feelings; during that time, I’m internally trying to assess their situation instead. At the same time, I almost always catch myself trying to understand a person’s motives on an emotional level. Not surprising, since people rely on logic less and less, lol. In general, I’m interested in psychology and in the behavioral aspects of people and society as a whole.

I also don’t really like talking about my own feelings. And by that I don’t mean all emotions like joy or anger (I can talk about those easily), but the ones that make me feel vulnerable and exposed. I also enjoy sarcasm—online, my sarcasm becomes harsher. I like trolling and baiting people just to get a reaction. Overall, I try to stay composed. And even though I’m often the first to start panicking internally, people always say that I look calm. And that’s not surprising, because I try to process the situation and observe it first. In general, I’d probably be better off if I were less emotional; I just wasn’t lucky enough not to be an anxious person. I feel like people should listen to the voice of reason more often than to their feelings.

As for my Physics: I’m lazy. My room is always messy—either clothes, dishes, or just clutter on my desk. I often engage in “bedrotting.” Despite my laziness, I like going for walks. I enjoy different kinds of physical activities like parkour, skiing, and volleyball, especially team sports. In general, I have a good sense of fashion—I can tell what suits a person both in terms of their character and body type, and which perfumes complement their image.
Personally, I don’t like dressing up too much. I prefer comfortable, loose, modest clothes with a couple of details that reflect my individuality. I like functional and practical accessories. Sometimes I don’t want to bother with my appearance at all. I maintain hygiene, but through effort rather than naturally. My relationship with money and material things is complicated. I’m quite generous, and when I buy things for myself, I sometimes start wanting more and more—but usually I manage to hold myself back from overspending. Sometimes I can turn into perfectionist when it comes to small things, like I said I don’t really like to overdress, but I still want my modest outfit to look perfect. Sometimes I’m being on my phone for hours making widgets and shortcuts of app icons. I also don’t need help from others when choosing my outfit, it’s not the best sometimes and I am aware of it, I am just ok with it and don’t take any advices, so I am pretty confident and comfortable with my personal choices and visions.

At the same time, I’m often inattentive to physical details—for example, it’s hard for me to notice if someone has a new haircut. When it comes to ideas, I wouldn’t call myself very practical or result-oriented (since I’m a Ne user), but I still tend to prefer something more grounded.

1F and 3F seem similar to me, and I’ve found characteristics of both types in myself. Idk if it is correlated but keep in mind that Se is NOT in my main cognitive functions.

I’m pretty physically lazy. My room is usually messy. But when I finally get around to cleaning, I enjoy organizing things in a way that creates practical order. Despite the laziness, I like walking in the park. When I do manage to exercise, I try to enjoy the process (imagining how I’m getting stronger both in body and spirit). But can’t continue when I’m tired, so basically I don’t push myself that far.

I have a sense of style in clothing—I know what suits me and what doesn’t, and I can give advice to others on how to improve something about themselves (when asked). I dress pretty simply myself; the main thing is that my style has a certain aesthetic, and it’s not always important if the outfit looks stylish to others—what matters is that it means something to me, how I feel in it. I also feel uncomfortable in uncomfortable clothes (too tight, too short, too elegant, too luxurious), even if they look better on me. I hate trends and lack of individuality in style.

I’m a bit clumsy in space—I bump into corners. I like sport games. I love the idea of dancing; I often get impulses in my head and body to move around, but again, I’m a bit clumsy, so it’s hard for me to turn those impulses into real movements. My mood sours if my appearance gets ruined during the day and becomes less fresh, for example.

I like carrying things with me that might come in handy, like any woman’s bag full of random stuff. I like practical things in general (a water-resistant fabric bag, a hiking knife).

I have a rocky relationship with money—it’s hard for me to stop spending. I’m also generous, I could give something away even to a stranger or buy something for my friend. I don’t like it when someone tries to change something in my room or style—yeah, the room is messy and the outfit didn’t turn out great, but neither bothers me, and I can fix it myself or just accept it, no big deal. If I lose something, it makes me sad, but if someone accidentally damages my thing, I immediately come to terms with it.

When something hurts or I think something’s wrong with my body, I immediately assume the worst.