Recently, a friend's relative got into the goat farming business for milk production and meat by-product. He wants to sell the meat and even offer a tasting menu, but he's not popular in that part of Brazil, so he asked everyone he knows for help.
For context - White female (me) and Black Caribbean man (him). We’re in a relationship and he goes to soca / bashment / fete events often. Additionally just local clubs. We had got onto the topic of wining, to which I felt uncomfortable with the idea of my boyfriend catching wines, as I see it as very sexual. He’s catching wines at the Caribbean events, but also just local clubs.
He tells me that if I were to tell him to stop, that I’m restricting his culture, and that a Caribbean girl wouldn’t ask their Caribbean partner what he’s doing at these events or even the topic of wining at all. (Is this true)
I explained my POV, that we’re in a relationship, I don’t feel comfortable with the idea of another woman dancing on him as it’s new to me and I view it as sexual. He said every guy does it whilst in a relationship, and his cousins would find it weird if he suddenly stopped. We got onto the topic of a man / woman giving/catching a whine whilst in a relationship and he said “I can catch a whine but a woman can’t give a whine, it’s two different things.” When challenged on a double standard (in my view) he said “A woman is choosing to give a whine yet a man is simply accepting”. He also said it was only “single girls that give whines, but a guy whether in a relationship or not can catch it”. To me this seems worse?
I tried to say I was uncomfortable with it, but he said I didn’t understand because I’m white and I’m restricting his culture. He’s struggled with his families perception of him because I’m white.
Id love some insight into the culture of wining and how you go about this in a relationship - do you genuinely not ask or do you establish a boundary?
Am making this post not to be negative but to draw out the elephant in the room.
I been around many different Caribbean people to know our ego and the fact that we can’t even try to look pass our own country to think about another for a second is the biggest issue.
But at the same time I get it. Why should a Jamaican, Dominican, Haitian even think about each other?
We can claim a more united Caribbean can protect us from USA. But if one of us got attacked by the USA. We have to acknowledge none of us would come to the rescue. That’s a fact.
Increase trading between one and another yes is a good thing. But trading doesn’t make us close. Even enemies trade with each other.
Let’s be honest, all of us failed to think about the long term future to create a more connected Caribbean block.
I want to hear your opinion. Again am not looking for a fight. I just wanted to express what I can see.
I was told that indigenous people legacy only live on in the history books of the Carribean. Is that true? Or are there Carribean countries that have significant genetic, cultural, and linguistic influences from the indigenous people? Are there any countries that have a sizable indigenous population left? If so, how are they treated?
Edit: why are people down voting this post? 😭
I’ve been following a YouTube travel series through Latin America, and I noticed a few things that made me curious if my observations are accurate or if I’m misunderstanding things.
First, ceviche, I always associated it mostly with Peru, but I also saw Colombian ceviche, and it looked very different, almost like a soup. Why is that? Does every country in Latin America have its own variation of ceviche?
Second, I noticed that because of Mercosur/open borders (or at least easier movement between countries), South Americans seem to travel and migrate around the continent a lot. It feels like you can find people from almost every nationality everywhere. Venezuelans and Haitians especially seem to be present in many countries.
But I also noticed perceptions of immigrant groups seem to change depending on the country. For example, I’ve seen Brazilians describe Venezuelans as hardworking, while in places like Chile or even Colombia, some locals seem more negative toward them. Similar with Haitians, in much of South America they seem respected or viewed positively, but in the Dominican Republic there seems to be much more tension.
Also, Colombia overall seems like a really beautiful country, and honestly many South American capitals look modern and impressive, but at the same time a lot of locals seem to be struggling financially despite that.
Did I get these impressions right, or am I oversimplifying things? I’d love if people from Latin America could add more context or correct me where I’m wrong.
Context: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskTheCaribbean/s/St6eDdZSvb
Thank you to everyone who gave advice and input! I spoke to him about it and he was not willing to compromise, and said he will be doing it on his lads holiday. He also said a point that Nigerians are worse ?! (Not sure the relevance of this). I expressed how I felt, and he was adamant it was because I’m white and haven’t been exposed to his culture. I again challenged the sexist view how a man can accept a wine in a relationship but a woman cannot give one… Long story short this then progressed into his views about body count - a woman’s must be low and he wouldn’t date a woman’s if over 6... His was 12?!(Which some of you did predict he’d have further views / insecurity)
A lot of you thought he was Jamaican, but he was 3rd Gen St Lucian, and clearly had resentment towards me being white due to his family’s outlook. Though this confuses me as his last “situationship” was British Indian. I took on everyone’s advice and tried to compromise with him, which didn’t work, and I ultimately ended the relationship, suggesting he take his own thoughts as advice - date a Caribbean girl that apparently “Wouldn’t ask”. He said I was manipulating the situation and was gaslighting him, which I found interesting as a lot of the comments on my previous post were saying he was manipulating me and taking me for a fool… perhaps he was massively projecting his insecurity!
Thank you!
I'll use myself as the example. For years, I've been using social media. Americans can use acronyms and "shortcuts" but as soon as I type in my dialect, they scold me 😅 I don't change how I type because social media is NOT an English class.
I find one certain group of people annoying and hypocritical. They're the ones who love to mind people's business on topics UNRELATED TO THEM. Say a video is about the Caribbean and people are texting in their dialects, then the Americans comment "what is this comment section? Is this English". I've seen it too many times.
( 🇱🇨 Dialect) Dem people luh malpalé'ing too much ee. People talking 'ow dey wanna talk, nobody talking to dem, killa. Y'all never notice dat on TikTok, dey coming deh correcting out di words for you as if we ask dem to? Like stay in yuh lane uh man
if you wine then you know the movement is actually coming from your knees, and the hips are just moving as a consequence of the knee motions.
for context im a frequent dancer (few times a week) and I always wine exclusively with my left knee just bc it's my dominant leg and I can never seem to find the rhythm on the other side. anyway lately that knee (left) has been experiencing intermittent discomfort bordering on pain every now and again. of course it could be unrelated but I thought id ask anyway and see if y'all are experiencing this phenomenon
edit: im getting flamed in these comments rn 😭 to clear a few things up
A) I am not white nor old lol
B) I shura clarified what I meant: when I said wining I don't mean just the move in isolation, I meant more like the way Tyla does it where you're moving across the dance floor as you wine. so your knee has to twist in and out in the direction your moving toward (right or left)
A lot of people say they are okay with it, others say they are not. How do you guys truly feel about it ?
Which Caribbean countries are the most renowned for their flavored dishes and varied cuisine?
Edit: I’m specifically referring to Black people in the Anglophone Caribbean.
When the story broke about Sherrone Moore, the former U of Michigan football coach, I was shocked to find out that he was of Trinidadian descent and not African-American.
Based on his first name, he sounds very much like a typical African-American name. So, do Caribbean people give their children names like this? Or is it possible that, growing up in the United States and possibly among African-Americans, that his parents were influenced in that naming choice?
I also think of another man of Trinidad descent, Malik Taylor, a.k.a. Phife Dawg. RIP. Again, Malik is a name that I would very much associate with African-Americans. Jamal is another one. I believe both of these names are of Arabic lineage. Phife was born and raised in New York City. Again, it’s possible that his parents were influenced with their naming choice.
Or are these names also found in the Caribbean?
Do you feel more french or more Caribbean. Also are your islands even feel like living in france?
You guys, I’m back home for a short period and met up with some old University friends. While catching up, the core theme seems to be that there’s no one to date(75% single). These are some of the most eligible singles I have ever known that are struggling to find love. It was the same sentiment when I visited Jamaica late last year and Barbados in January. I have to ask the question, why is dating in the Caribbean so hard?
For me it's The Mighty Quinn
hi! i am traveling to Guadeloupe for two weeks and would love to know some black owned businesses i can support while i'm there. let me know if you have any favorite spots! food, art, clothes, crafts, etc.
thank you so much!
***edit:
by black owned businesses i do mean black owned, as in local black people of Guadeloupe, wether that be people native to the island, descendants of slaves, mixed race black people, etc.
i do not mean to say that i will be "boycotting" businesses owned by other races. i just think it is important to seek to support black people when traveling to a place where there is such an intense history of slavery and an obvious imbalance of wealth because of that. also when traveling anywhere, period. because anti blackness is a global problem.
i also understand that there are a lot of Indian descendants on the island as well and that there is a dark history behind that too. i am sure i will also be able to find a way to support businesses owned by Indo-Guadeloupeans as well. i just happened to ask a specific question.
thank you to those who have given recommendations and some insight into the history of Guadeloupe.
i am excited to experience the island and will bring nothing but love and respect to my interactions with the people, land, and sea!
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For reference, my whole mother's family is from the British West Indies, namely Trinidad, British Guiana, Barbados, Jamaica and Antigua.they are of mostly Chinese decsent. Every single one of them has refereed to themselves as 'Oriental', and people back in those countries called them 'Oriental'. No one got offended by this.
I was born and bred in San Francisco, USA. Everyone gets so uppity at 'Oriental' when THEY themselves even refer to themselves as Oriental. In fact, I am 60% Chinese, and THEY get offended when I refer to MYSELF as 'part Oriental'.
Most of my relatives on my mother's side whom I know personally were born in British colonies of the British West Indies between the years of 1880 and 1950.
Does this happen with anyone here when they go out of the Caribbean?
What's the Carribean nation that seems most closed off. Like no one knows what's going on there or they give off North Korea like vibes?