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How can a composer with little production knowledge begin to make orchestral music?
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How can a composer with little production knowledge begin to make orchestral music?

Hi everyone! As the title suggests, I'm a composer, and in regards to production and audio engineering - I know only the basics. I use FL Studio. I'm currently working on an indie game which aims for *some* commercial success. What I mean by this - I'm not someone merely looking to experiment with free, but limited libraries like LABS or BBC Discover. I want to make something which sounds relatively professional and modern, using mostly orchestral/acoustic instruments, with some electronic elements.

Here are some refs of how I would like my songs to sound:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYIJF1nbgTk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ssoHoyppDo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXEjU3Orkvg

A couple more refs, leaning a bit more into the electronic side:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3q2cYGrbXOA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLHvRifRS9U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmc4PI7Jfho (except the synths wouldn't be so 8-bit)

I've heard composers like to use a single instrument library, that way they can make their songs sound very good without getting stuck in the paralysis of choosing between tens of plugins for each instrument. On the other hand, I would still like to have some options, as no plugin is universal. My question is, would Kontakt 8, for example, strike this balance? Is it realistic to expect I can make an entire soundtrack only with Kontakt 8? I read there's a wide variety of instruments included when you buy it.

I know I also need mixing and mastering plug-ins, such as reverb, compression, etc. But afaik, I don't need paid versions of these, and free versions such as Kilohearts Essentials or even just the stock FL plugins would be enough. Am I on the right track with this thinking?

(I hope these don't violate rule 9 of the sub... but I can't find a weekly gear thread, so I have nowhere else to ask this)

One last thing. Any tutorial I can find on YouTube regarding orchestral music is about composition, which is something I'm already good at. The rare videos concerning the production cover only the basics, which I already know. What even is the direction I should take to start? Are there any good resources you would recommend?

Let me know if I should provide more info! I realize this post is a bit all over the place lol, I feel directionless and so any help is greatly appreciated :))

u/UncleSpoon_AuntyFork — 7 hours ago

Why do my iPhone voice memo recordings sound better than my actual mixes?

Sometimes literally just placing my iPhone next to my monitors and recording the track through Voice Memos sounds cooler to me than my actual finished mixes.

There’s something about the iPhone compression, especially in the low end, plus the slightly gluey sound, and this kind of “found footage” realism that makes it feel more modern and vibey in a way my clean mix doesn’t always capture.

The only downside is that it lacks clarity and detail compared to the proper mix.

Has anyone tried blending their finished mix with an iPhone recording like this? If so, what’s the best way to do it without running into phase issues or weird artifacts?

Thanks.

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u/KenFromSuccession — 13 hours ago

From an educational channel to a music channel. Any suggestions?

Hey everyone,

I run an educational channel for aspiring musicians, but I want to create a personal channel for my original compositions. It currently has almost 4000 subscribers and is less than two years old. I'm experienced in creating educational content, but I really don't know how to make a music channel stand out. The two are very different.

What makes things difficult is that I'm a composer, and I can only create realistic mockups using sample libraries. If the music is strong, I don't think this would be a problem, but if I were a singer, it would probably be easier. If people can associate a face with the music, even through a low-quality video, it could still work, but can I still grab people's attention?

Any experience in this field?

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u/Choice_Attention_123 — 7 hours ago

Double Tracking Melodic Synths?

tl;dr: is it a good practice to double track synths, on lets say a melodic synth, on a dubstep drop or other types of electronic music? (dnb)

so i've produced dnb for a while now, and on the drop, i just make my melodic synth and that's it, add reverb or whatever else. but recently i've gotten into a lot of metallica and other things like that and i am aware that they double or quad track their guitars to make them wide and stereo and sound great.

i thought my melodic synths sounded fine before, but i've started wondering if this is something i could do to them too? i've listened to many dnb and dubstep artists and it really doesnt sound like they double track them or anything.

of course im aware too that if i just simply copy and paste the synth i made and pan it hard L and R then it will sound bad and weird when the song is in mono. but i'm making my synths with NI massive and serum so i can slightly change the synth or even turn off that setting where a different sound plays each time the synth plays (idk what its called sorry).

so since no artists do this on electronic music im wondering if its a good thing to step up my production and sound design in this genre and make my music sound better and different to what alot of other people are doing.

and btw this music is mostly played at raves and clubs on those huge speakers so would it sound good on those too?

additional question: all the authentic records from metallica and other bands have the natural room reverb on their drums and guitars etc.. would this sound okay on this electronic music i am talking about? or should i just stick to regular reverb instead of some nice room simulated reverb on the drums and stuff.

thank you for reading!

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u/Icxyy — 8 hours ago

How do you find collaborators?

How do you usually find people to work with — mixing engineers, vocalists, other producers? Wondering if most collabs happen organically through the community here, or if there's a better way to connect. Always curious how people build their creative circle outside of a label or studio structure.

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u/Few-Resident5919 — 3 hours ago

Working on debut album

Howdy y’all,

I’m working on recording and producing my first album. There will be 13 songs total (4 currently finished). It’s been a long journey but I’m enjoying the process.

I pour a lot into each song, and spend hours creating them. They remind me of little time capsules.

With that being said, I’m wondering what other people’s workflow looks like- if you record and produce your own stuff, do you have a particular order for the songs (the hardest first, the album opener first, etc.)? Or do you work on whatever you’re excited about at the moment?

What sort of benchmarks do you lay out to make sure everything is progressing in a timely manner?

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u/Optimal_Specialist14 — 18 hours ago

live performing own beats - any tips / experience?

hey everyone, I’ve been making beats for a few years now and work exclusively in FL studio. In two months i'll have the chance to play a 10-minute set of my beats.

i am asking myself: how can I put together an entertaining performance using DAW productions without playing an instrument or singing?

I’ve been thinking about an MPC sampler, but before I buy one, i’d appreciate some feedback on this idea. Is it realistic to set a sampler up, learn how to use it, and then deliver a performance that’s fun to in two months preparation? the beats exists already in daw projects.

does anyone here do performances like this and can give some insights?

thanks for any tips or shared experience!

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u/schmo808 — 5 hours ago

Want help making music!

Hey guys I’m 28f, just wanna hear if anyone else is on their music journey and how I can start mine! I’m into r&b, rap, soft girl music. HMU !

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u/Dry-Ad8826 — 7 hours ago
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I got tired of all the band admin so i'm building my own tool. what features would you actually use?

i got so tired of managing band logistics in a messy Google Drive that I’m making a a proper tool (app and Webb) for it.

currently it handles tour planning including day sheets, merch tracking, expenses, basic payout splits and auto-generating custom documents

before i build anything else: what is the absolute worst part of being the admin person for your band? let me know your biggest problems/bottlenecks/communication issues etc and i'll try to build it in.

(not gonna spam links, but let me know in the comments if you want to see it)

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u/beyondspac3 — 8 hours ago
Original ambient pipeline I made in my spare time
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Original ambient pipeline I made in my spare time

I wanted to share an ambient pipeline I made in my spare time designed for fast youtube video output. The music is original and not AI-generated.

It’s a calm ancient/cinematic style tracks made for relaxation, study, and background listening.

Link: Doric Style - YouTube

There will be many more to come, hope you enjoy it.

u/AppointmentMedium862 — 13 hours ago

Which DAW is better for quantizing DI guitar notes

I was tracking a band and a part of one song the guitarist kept falling out of time during their lead part of the chorus, as they transition between 1/8th note triplets to dotted 1/16th note triples. Luckily I tracked their part with a clean DI in addition to mic’ing up their amp. I’ve been wrestling with Logic’s Flex Time and quantization to try to get their part to line up with a fair amount of difficulty managing artifacts and the push/pull feel of the 8th note triplets and dotted 16th triplets. The part is sort of legato and played across three strings but is definitely syncopated so just chopping notes up and nudging them cuts off the sustain from a note on a previous string. Logic is my main DAW but I also have Ableton Live 12. I’m not an “advanced user” in ableton but know my way around it decently well. Do you think that ableton would be more useful for this application? Eventually I think I’ll ask the guitarist if they’d be willing to take another pass of the song, but I fear it may yield similar results, so I just want to be prepared to do some editing either way. Would tracking them in ableton yield better results for its time stretching / editing / quantization algorithm than importing a wav file from logic? The song itself is pretty zany art rock / indie stuff, and I know this timing issue isn’t stylistic. It just throws off the groove from the rest of the song. Any tips would be much appreciated!

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u/must-absorb-content — 23 hours ago
Help with understanding where to start with looping/jamming

Help with understanding where to start with looping/jamming

So hopefully this question isn't too broad and somebody can help me out. My favorite type of music to listen to/play along with are a lot of jam session/live looping types of songs. I'll provide a few examples to demonstrate what I mean:

FKJ & Yussef Dayes - Live From the Greenhouse

Masego - Lavish Lullaby

FKJ Improv from Home

My confusion comes from where to start when writing songs like this. Once I get a rhythm going or if I'm using a backing track of some sort I have no problem improvising, but I struggle a lot to get to that point and need help understanding how to think about it. Normally I'd start with a rhythm and then harmonize, but that tends to be where I get lost. Should I be using chord progressions I already know and playing the rhythm within them or should I write the melody/rhythm first and then harmonize? I'm sort of stuck in this catch 22 of understanding this because it feels like I need the chords to play a melody but I need a melody to play the chords. How should I be thinking about this to get myself out of this loop?

u/ThwipGP — 9 hours ago

Is This Wanted Anymore?

Are drum/prc loop libraries still wanted by musicians/producers/artists etc?

I wondered recently if people would want another library of nothing but drum loops. No hits, just loops.

And when I mean library, I mean hundreds of loops, not a little 50 loop sample pack. A large drum loop library of near 500 loops or more.

Would anybody care anymore to buy something like that?

If so, what do you feel are the most needed qualities that a library like that should contain?

Thanks!

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u/TrailerScores — 10 hours ago

Vague question. How do i train my ears?

How do I get better ears guys, like please im lost in this, How do i get better at listening, what are some things i should do, Im not moved by anything i Make, just a particular joy of creating it but not feeling the emotion i do in other songs i like, what are some things you guys recommend to seriously train my ear to be better at recognizing good sounds in my own stuff, and also technical knowledge how do i advance this? what are some things you recommend to do on fl to get better at creating and sound selection?

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u/Bright-End-8599 — 2 hours ago
Week