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The note memory game got an update. You're still going to fail.
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The note memory game got an update. You're still going to fail.

A couple weeks ago I posted a game where you hear 4 notes and try to repeat them on a piano and most of you (and me) were humbled by it.

I took your feedback and made some updates:

- Note labels on the piano — each key now shows its note name (A, E#, B, etc.) so you're actually learning while you play

- Harder scoring — the game is a bit more unforgiving now, as it should be

- Articles section — I added some reading material to help you actually get better at this

You can try it at pitchd.net

Also, I'd love to feature articles written by people in this community. If you know your stuff and want to contribute a piece, drop a comment or DM me. Would be cool to have this become a real resource for people training their ear.

u/HP2806 — 4 hours ago

On reading contemporary musical notation

Yes, my composer friends write and give me pieces to play, but what is this... I need to learn a new language, but how am I going to learn it? This is a very different plac... Wth.

u/Kozacraft — 2 hours ago
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Any word-rhythm pairings you'd change for kids (3-7)? Images will be added later.

u/FreeXFall — 13 hours ago
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How can i make this simpler?

is there a way to make this simpler instead of using a 32th?😭

edit: i found out about mordent. thanks to yall:)

u/revivedstar — 9 hours ago

Yearning chords

Does anyone have good chord progressions that give the feel of yearning or longing. I want to put a poem I wrote about liking someone in a relationship to words but I don't know what chords to use.

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u/Feeling-End-6693 — 14 hours ago
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How to differentiate between the IV and V chords in a progression

I've been doing more ear training as I'm away from my instrument more regularly; I've been using tonedear. At first I wasbad at intervals, then I got good at it. Then I was bad at chord identification then I also became good at it, then I was bad at scale identification then I became good at it.
But no matter how hard I try, I can't seem to stop mixing up the IV and V in progressions. It should seem easy because they do have completely different feelings, or emotions, when used within a piece, but for some reason I always mix them up.

Do you guys have any trick or way of imagining it that helps? Or I just have to drill more?

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u/MeasurementSignal168 — 18 hours ago
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A question about clefs please.

Hi, would someone be able to tell me what those other clefs are for right at the start of the piece please?

Many thanks.

u/Entire-Smile-8480 — 19 hours ago

Why do we say G major triad instead of V triad in C major???

It really messes up with my brain when I am learning music theory. Why can’t we just call things how they behave harmonically? Not just how they literally sound like? Like, then why don’t we call a part of a melody going from F to C in C major suddenly a switch to lydian mode for the five notes? But we still say it is C major?

Also, when analysing a piece harmonically, how do I know if like some sonorities is either some G major susaddomit13 chord or idk F minor susaddomit15 chord inverted on a note? If they are literally the same notes? (I know these chords are not, they aren’t even real, I am just trying to convey my idea)

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u/ConversationWeird801 — 13 hours ago

Question about idetifying Chords in a string quartet

Hi this is my first time analyzing something other than a bach choral or hymnal and I'm kinda confused by the movement of the voices and how that affects the harmony. I'm analyzing Haydns Bird Quartet and e.g. in Bar 20 (see picture) the voices seem to move so much that I can't quite tell what the chord in that bar is supposed to be or if there's multiple. So can someone explain how I should approach this?

https://preview.redd.it/kd38dtpwb32h1.png?width=1493&format=png&auto=webp&s=5c582bdaeef21cbf077134a421dae98ded48db0f

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u/Music-Theory-Idiot — 17 hours ago

can someone please tell me which key this version of “morning has broken” is in?

singing for a funeral next week. not familiar with the song but this seems to be the only key i can comfortably sing it in. i need to find the right backing track. thanks :))

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u/witchy-bitch394 — 14 hours ago
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Why does D → E7/D → Gmaj7 sound so ethereal in a D major piece?

I've been listening and playing around with a piano piece in the key of D major, and there's a moment that sounds incredibly "heaven" and I'd love to understand why.

The progression sits on Gmaj7 (IVmaj7) for a while, then resolves down to D (I). But right before returning to Gmaj7, it briefly passes through E7/D and that fleeting moment has this floating, almost otherworldly quality that I can't stop listening to. It gets even better when it resolves to a Gadd9

Why does this work so well, and is there a name for what's happening here?

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u/Calordos_Zinferno — 1 day ago

Software which will allow you to make notes which allows you to insert staves?

Hi, I'm looking for an app for my Mac which will allow me to make written notes and include a staff which will playback what I've written on it. So basically, I'll end up with an interactive book.

It's to serve as an aide memoire.

I currently use Dorico for scoring.

Many thanks.

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u/Entire-Smile-8480 — 20 hours ago

Why do we have modes?

It just seems unnecessarily confusing. Why not just use Roman numerals instead? At least those are related to what's going on in the music. Number IV is the fourth note in the key, and you can then see that note as the base point of a scale set in that key. The scale of the iv in the key of G will start at C, and it'll have a sharp at F, I remember my FGCDAEB, I know what that looks like. It's simple, elegant, it makes sense.

What the fuck does C Lydian look like. What the hell does that tell me about the scale. It doesn't tell me the accidentals, it doesn't tell me about the consonance of the chords. Except maybe now I know this scale will make me feel like a citizen of the ancient Greek kingdom of Lydia?

And the thing is that a lot of teachers and online resources see them as different things? Like all of the charts online expect you to memorize the exact Roman Numerals of each chord for each mode, and then they expect you to memorize the whole step whole step half step shabangle for every mode. That's what my teacher had me do for CM; she had me memorize the exact whole step whole step half step thing for every single mode.

We just have so many things relating to the same thing, the position of the note in a scale. Roman Numerals, Modes, Degrees, and minor scales (Like why not just call the minor scale, the vi, the submediant, or the Aeolian, why is it fucking special). There is just so much redundancy and added complexity to something that really shouldn't be that complex.

I will concede that degrees are somewhat useful in a descriptive manner. The dominant resolves to the tonic, above the tonic is supertonic, and in the middle is the mediant, this all makes sense, and maybe it has some use. But I see no reason for the existence of modes. Or maybe I'm missing something.

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u/Nefariousness_Unfair — 1 day ago

(Urgent!) need help with finding what key this version of song is in for a performance.

Hello there ! Could someone identify what key this version that this person has done for a song Michael In The Bathroom? I've been wondering as it's the only version that I can sing with no problem. I've been guessing it's major, but I'm unsure.

u/Aj_BONK — 20 hours ago

Did I label these chords right?

Been out of the game for a while, trying to get back into it. How’d I go?

u/Neuropractice — 1 day ago

Is there any example of modal music in the post punk genre?

Since i'm just starting with modal music, i'm looking for any example in the songs i like, and i love post punk.

If you don't know a modal post punk song, can you please give me any tip in order to find one myself, because everything is so new that i don't even know how to recognize it.

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u/thoughsmixology — 1 day ago

How to extend short compositions?

Oftentimes I just sketch out these short little tunes in my free time (I hear a melody in my head at work or think of some chord progression and quickly jot it down in my notebook), but usually these just end up being short (~1 min) little snippets of the melody/harmony I had in mind, and I really don't know how to extend them out. If I come up with a little groove/chord progression I can make this a larger song with my band, but that's usually it.

For example, recently I wrote a little fugue inspired thing while procrastinating more important work: https://youtu.be/gCfOlSjwMaU

I'm really happy with it; I feel like the melodies of all 4 (okay really 3 because the 4th voice only comes in at the end and plays whole notes) voices are strong and there is some really funky harmony jumping between a bunch of different keys and stuff, but I have no idea how to make this a longer piece. I could keep going with the counterpoint and harmony (that last chord is a nice sus chord that sounds resolved (imo) but could also be a dominant thing to keep going), but I feel like it would just waffle about and get tiring.

I'd rather be able to take each little section of this and draw it out -- take measures 9-11 for example; I really like that dramatic moment wtih the E phrygian dominant harmony and the interplay between the voices, but also the movement of the voices just feels like it immediately needs to go to the next section and then on and on... I don't really feel like I could just insert more music to linger on that moment... In my band, we might come up with a similar vibe/harmony for an intro or a bridge or a cadenza-like thing, but that's a lot more repetitive, funk/jazz jam music, so I don't know how to transate it.

u/nerdycatgamer — 23 hours ago

Why certain notes dont work over a chord?

Why doesnt it work when i play neither D note nor Eb note over when there is a Eb chord (it should be Eb not D# right? ) https://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/tab/tom-odell/the-end-chords-5078149
The root note should be part of the chord for sure right? It sounds funky though. According to my estimations all chords fit Gminor scale.

Playing without capo transposed to 3

Is there something more about it that i need to know?

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u/safarithroughlife — 1 day ago

Is there a way for me to listen to what I’m writing without having to play it?

I’m trying to write my first piece and it’s supposed to be a Bossa nova but I just don’t know if it is one. I don’t know how it sounds like and, even though i’ve been sticking to everything I think I know about Bossa, I’m still bothered by the fact it might not even sound like one 😭

I’m not sure what to do at this point because I still haven’t properly learned how to read what I’m writing (I’ve had to repeat two years of class unfortunately) and it’s not like I can play two instruments at once

please help me :(

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u/Euphoric-Primary-463 — 1 day ago