r/WoT

I originally bought the first two wheel of Time books on a field trip to Barnes & Noble my senior year of high school (2018).  I read through the eye of the world and almost finished the great hunt (Literally had like 80 pages left) before I put the books down due to going to college.

And now, nearly 10 years after id started reading them, I picked the series up once again just 2 months ago, and wow. I had completely forgotten how engrossing these books are, how detailed the world is, and overall how much I liked reading them.

 I'm about halfway through the great hunt now, And unlike the eye of the world which I had felt like I remembered perfectly, I don't remember much of the great hunt at all.  This time around, I'm determined to finish the series, and I'm especially excited to get to the dragon reborn.

I am not sure how I never came across BS saying that Nakomi is Jenn Aiel born but here we are. Jenn Aiel are not something I have ever actively looked for in the books always having my assumed that they were all gone. Are there any examples of characters who are likely, or possibly Jenn Aiel?

Just came home after moving earth and sea seeking for the damn book 2 of the series. Nobody got that. I guess I'll just have to buy it online and wait almost 20 days for it to get home.

Have you read even the prologue yet?
I mean... Look at that!!!

The prose is A.M.A.Z.I.N.G!!!! Envy me I'm reading it for the first time.

I can almost attest it's gonna be a long, fruitful, sensacional journey...

And let me call it "The finished GOT" because I can spot some similarities such as how the world is built (although I'm aware of the fact that GOT is mainly character driven and it would not be payiing that mucha attention to worldbuilding perse), or the languaje used being interpretated as lyrical...

Man, now I want to go back to La Feria del Libro and get them all!!! (I will, in fact, go today with other friends so I have no doubt it will be a you see it, you buy it kind of instant insane impulse.)

May I file it under the R for "Path of The Ranger Syndrom" (another series I literally just could not read beyond chapter 1 in digital because it was so good I had to get it in paper and so it went on and on and I'm now updated on when the following - 17 to 20 - tomes will come out in hardcover. And just for the record, I own 15 of them waiting for the 16th to arrive but I'm not even done with 9.)

I just knew it was gonna be big, and amazing at the same time. And NO WONDER WOT WILL BE THE SAME!

I know it's up to interpretation, but here's why I'm right: So, after the End, he's an ultra Taveren and can light his pipe with his willpower. Rand Al'Thor just ended an age by achieving victory for the light. He's the Light's Champion! This is his reward to use, abuse, and enjoy. I think he earned it. Being Rand Al'Thor sucked!

This is specifically about Nynaeve test for Aes Sedai. I find the whole situation so absurd and exemplifies so much of what makes the White Tower a completely bankrupt organization. In the short time that's she's been affiliated with the tower the woman helped set the weather right, defeated forsaken, helped cleanse saidin and healed stilling, while the Aes Sedai testing her did jack all in the hundreds of years they've been around with the vast resources of the tower besides sniffing, rearranging skirts, splitting their own tower and getting in the way of everything. She should have been recognized as full aes sedai to a chorus of I'm not worthies from the others as soon as the tower was reunited.

Instead these petty tyrants are so blind in their ego and malice as to torture and try to almost kill her in the terangrael because what, she refuses to renounce her humanity to respect their pointless rules? And then they have the gall to consider failing her! How narrow-minded, petty, self important and plain foolish do you have to be to consider rejecting a woman with her abilities, not to mention her relationship with the dragon reborn, as the last battle is right in front of you, all because she was running inside your stupid test??

I see a lot of posts blaming ishamael for how the tower is, but I think these aes sedai got there all by themselves.

I’m up to book 6, so no spoilers for the rest of the series please.

Just wondering if there was some sort of retcon regarding Mat’s memories? Because in earlier books, Mat seems to already have memories of past lives (like when he slips into the old tongue), but later on it seems like that’s all forgotten and the blame for his memories is placed entirely on the finns

No spoilers really, but did anyone notice how common the word awesome felt, like we talking about skirt smoothing and braid tugging but I feel like awesome showed up quite a few times. Does anyone have the data on its occurrence.

Short answer would be Rand. Long answer would be none of them, or it depends on context.

Starting with Rand. I like to bring into context the fact that he was under more pressure and had to deal with more things than any living person in that world. Also, he was losing his sanity. That said, by the start of the story he was the only dude with a girlfriend. Yeah, Egwene ran the show, but he sort of knows how to contain her, and I get the feeling they’d have married and lived a relatively normal life where she called the shots most times and occasionally he put his foot down, as Abel and Marin noted about “men and women”.

What I find most funny about that is, outside of Egwene’s insufferable nature and her needing to be better than everyone (and jealousy of Rand). They do kind of understand each other, she knows how stubborn he can be and when to back off, he understands what she is, especially when they argue and she flips it back on him even when he was right from the start. The spat a couple of times in the beginning and resolved it more amicably than Perrin and Faile ever did. I get why they wouldn’t have worked. But I think they were compatible.

There’s also the fact that he’s written to be the most good looking of the lads and always the point of attraction when they are together. Mat and Perrin got their women when they were miles away from Rand. He was smooth with Elayne and Else, IIRC. It’s just that he never actually spends time with his women.

Loved his relationship with Aviendha, especially after the igloo, and I think his relationship with Min is the most wholesome and healthiest relationship, although she doesn’t seem to have anything else going for her. The only issue is how he tries to push them away because of his fate. It didn’t work. But I just think that overall he communicates with his women and was never a pushover, like Mat and Perrin were most times with their women. Maybe it’s because he’s more socially balanced than they were.

Then Mat. He’s good at flirting, as opposed to Rand who relied on his looks or aura or the pattern, or Perrin who was basically given all the signals in the world by Faile. Mat is the best at having a nice time with women, but he sucked at a real relationship. He and Perrin spent a lot more time with their women, or rather their relationships were a major plot point in their story, as opposed to Rand where it’s everything but his love life.

Tuon is a crazy slaver, so I gotta cut Mat some slack here. But I find it weird that he sort of never brings up some things with her. He never tries to talk about her culture, especially when she was his “captive.” I did love how he diffused the a’dam scene and buried them, but he never really stood up to Tuon. He always tries to just avoid important conversations or expects his problems to dissolve if he ignores them.

There’s cultural differences too, and they do seem good for each other since he sort of is a scoundrel and needs someone to contain him. It just seems to me that if not for the Dragon’s Peace, Tuon would carry on like she is and Mat wouldn’t do anything and would still passively aid her by leading her armies.

He was good with the shaido maiden too, but also avoids talking her down when she’s pushing ideas into his head about greatness. Mat hates difficult conversations 😂.

Perrin, I think, is worse with women(of the three). His relationship with Faile is polarizing, as I understand. You either hate it or love it. While there are good parts, she did help him out a lot, there are a lot of red flags with them, and it starts and ends with communication. Faile wanting him to be “a man” with her and Perrin being “a careful and gentle big guy” was always a recipe for disaster.

They never adequately communicate. She is violent, and I think he’s spanked her once too. She is always angry or apprehensive about something she’s not telling, and he’s so bad at understanding that sometimes the way we feel and act are different. Perhaps most of the issues came from him invading her privacy by smelling her emotions. Also, him willing to trade thousands of slaves for his wife is crazy. It’s devotion, but he seems to be too Faile-centered, and would abandon the world for her (although he grew from that when it mattered in the end and made the right choice)

He also handled the Berelain situation so badly. I mean, something Berelain and Faile could resolve in an hour. You know, I always found it odd that he thinks shouting at a queen would make her back down, or that avoiding a conversation with Berelain would just solve his problems.

All versions of Rand handled Selene/Lanfear, better than Perrin ever did with Berelain. I loved that in the end Rand was able to beat Lanfear by showing that he never loved her and letting her know why(the fact that she could not even be as open with him as he was with her). A bunch of other women too seduced Rand, and we don’t see him struggle with sending them away or putting them in their place.

His later meetings with Elayne, their conversation, his final meeting with Aviendha, shade of my heart, and also with Min just showed that he is better overall with relationships because he’s open and direct(Mat avoids directness and confrontation) and also understands subtleties(while Perrin doesn’t)

This is my take on the matter. What do y’all think? How do you rank them?

What goes into fully training a Tower trained warder? We know it involves combat training and going to the Blight, but what else? Is there history, customs, diplomacy, tracking and evasion, how to deal with your Aes Sedai when she’s being especially high and mighty?

Ta'veren?

I just got to the part in chapter 37 where Faile ran down the rider to get the horn, and it was on Bela.

Like, she just was at every important part in the series, and ridden by 2 Amirlyns, and other super important characters?

Reading Lord of The Rings feels like reading the first page of the story of Epic Fantasy.

Finishing Wheel of Time feels like reading the last page and closing the book.

I 30% into book 2. I am looking for good artwork without spoilers...