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I just realized. I don’t have to argue morality or nuance. Everyone’s a war criminal. It literally doesn’t fucking matter

I just realized. I don’t have to argue morality or nuance. Everyone’s a war criminal. It literally doesn’t fucking matter

The amount of times I’m at my wits end trying to explain the nuance of the HP’s actions to somehow explain why they are a faction worth rooting for.

Then I got asked why bother when everyone does it?

And HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.

Your right.

Every endgame faction in Genshin has done some fucked up shit. Each with circumstantial explanation and nuance.

So why does it even matter?

The agenda is Celestia is the way to go because their rule and plans are ultimately best for everyone.

Which still applies regardless of the morality of the nails or the first war or the curses of the wilderness and immortality. Those are individual actions that are in response to hiccups and other people messing shit up. It has no affect on the overarching plan

Celestia’s plan and PHANES’ rules are literally the only thing keeping Teyvat from sinking into the abyss and everyone in game is starting to realize it like the Hexen.

And what’s funny is.

Celestia’s crimes are mass murder, ecocide, colonialism, and collective punishment.

Fatui: colonialism, mass murder(inciting wars) child experimentation, child grooming, espionage, destabilization, etc

Dragons: eating people, mass murder, bombing humanity back to the Stone Age then orchestrating Thor society so they kill each other and stay primitive savages, abyssal usage, child grooming(Kukulkan)

Celestia’s crime list is ironically smaller and less varied than everyone else’s.

So I don’t give a shit anymore. Celestia number one. Fuck them dragons, fuck them Kheanri’ahns, fuck them Fatui.

u/Scared-Opening-753 — 3 hours ago
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Breaking News!

Hello everybody and welcome back to the Winter Lazzo, your weekly Fatui Newsletter!

GOLDEN BUTCHER MASSACRES BORDER TROOPS:

Following a string of disappearances on the Snezhnayan border, Lazzo correspondents have unearthed disturbing data from spy cameras indicating a mass loss of life across all of teyvat. After a thorough investigation by our reporters into previous counts of desertion; the Golden Butcher is estimated to have killed upwards of 27,000 agents across Teyvat. With the recent return of many comrades, the butcher is hungry for blood and is currently charging towards Snezhnaya leaving a bloodbath in their wake. Reports indicate that if they reach Snezhnaya we may witness a disaster not seen since the infamous ‘Persona non Grata’ Massacre.

UNIDENTIFIED OBJECTS DISCOVERED:

Following the establishment of the Kuuvahki Experimental Design Bureau, a top secret project to dispatch long range satellites to gather data about the false sky was initiated. Now, with the launch of the first satellite, officials are shocked at the discovery of 19 unidentified landmasses located near the roof of the false sky. On a better note, triangulation has begun in areas near Chenyu Vale, and The Regrator has told the Lazzo that Snezhnaya will have a precise lock on Celestia’s true location within the next few months

DOTTORE CORPS UNDER NEW MANAGEMENT:

After a long round of negotiations at Zapolyarny Palace, the fate of Dottore’s unit is finally decided. Insider sources tell the Lazzo that with the new agreement in place, the Dottore unit will remain an individual entity with limited control from the Tsaritsa, so long as they continue to produce results. Rumors claim that the mysterious ‘Epsilon’ who leads the Dottore unit is to be promoted to the rank of harbinger; but there is no official evidence to this claim.

STRANGE OCCURRENCES IN FATUI OUTPOSTS:

During the Lazzo’s investigation into desertion reports, a large and disturbing amount of unexplained disappearances has been recorded near Sumeru, Fontaine, Mondstadt, and Nod-Krai. All of these disappearances have happened in the weeks following the Nod-Krai Calamity. An official investigation has been launched by Mayor Pulcinella, and results are to be expected soon.

ABYSSAL ACTIVISTS EXECUTED:

In a shocking turn of events, this Tuesday in Belyi Square; a large amount of abyss activist were publicly beheaded. These activists, formed from Fatui agents who grew soft after learning the truth about Hilichurls and Abyss Order monsters’ origins; have long been a minor and relatively unknown group. However, recently the group had been steadily rising in popularity; but maintained a non-violent approach to change. This reason for this shocking change in attitude towards them is currently unknown, but many Snezhnayan citizens are all wondering the same thing; “Have the Fatui gone too far?”

That’s all for today, and remember: “Sharp as Steel, Cold as Ice, Her Majesty’s dream will lead to a man-made future warm and bright!”

u/No_Attitude4534 — 8 hours ago
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The Judgement of Asmoday

I know it’s not really RP but it’s important to establish for baseline, canon will go with majority vote (hopefully I don’t start a war ;) ), ig if you want to state your claims put in in seperate posts but here you go.

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u/No_Attitude4534 — 8 hours ago

Oh look. A story how “these who dream of dreaming” aka those with high ambition beyond the rules ultimately bring ruin to those content to live inside an oasis (bubble world)

Machines they made in their ambition turned against them by outside forces? Check

The cherry on top is that it’s Kheanri’ahn tech too.

Creating a fiery scene that looks all too familiar.

Moral of the story:

#ThoseWhoDreamOfDreamingShouldNotDream

Literally what’s the point of these grand ambitions. Most are lucky to live a happy normal life. Why do you have to go beyond that. Especially with the Heavens telling you “don’t do that”

This is the Tower of Babel allegory in Hyperborea all over again. Unchecked ambition only leads to ruin for you and everyone around you.

u/Scared-Opening-753 — 17 hours ago
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Crack theory I came up with at 3am: Surtalogi is Lan

Surtalogi: uses bow capable of easily destroying star systems

Lan: uses bow capable of easily destroying star systems

Hunt: Strength above all else

Surtalogi: strength above all else

Surtalogi: uses great sword to slice stars (it’s his worst weapon)

Lan: one arrow to kill them all (best weapon)

Plus they kinda look the same.

Plus with the feats we know of Surtalogi it’s impossible he isn’t known in hsr (he wouldn’t be destruction because he only seeks strong foes, so he can’t be lord ravaged but he’s clearly low-aeon level at minimum. Zephyro the strongest lord ravager could only destroy a star system with a good amount of effort)

I know it crack and btw sorry for not posting I’ve been kinda. Busy with end of year exams.

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u/No_Attitude4534 — 7 hours ago
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Guys, one of Dottore's academic research papers is found

No wonder blud didn't last long in the Akademiya, his handwriting is also ass

u/Grey_500 — 2 days ago

Is the PO really a colonizer?

Is it just me, or am I starting to notice that everything said about the Primordial One is presented from perspectives that make him seem like a villain in the story?

For example, people used to think he punished the koitar js because she fall in love and punished her and the entire angle for KOITAR sin , but it later turned out she was involved in rebellion , she even invited other angles in this rebellion .. and allowed seutrvoinen to introduce knowledge AND forbidden things to human. Which way it clarify things for me .. i was always wondering why would the PO punish some angels while other not?

Another example is how people said he destroyed Hyperborea just because they sought knowledge, but later it was revealed that they had outside (extraterrestrial) knowledge brought to them, and on top of that, they were using forbidden things in Teyvat not just pursuing knowledge.

And then Khaenri’ah , at first we thought that it was destroyed just because it was an advanced, godless civilization and they wanted control. But the Abyss was clearly a factor too. We still don’t know the full history of Khaenri’ah, but what we do know so far isn’t exactly clean .. especially the Genocide that was happening

Even if you say “Apep said this” , Apep’s perspective itself isn’t necessarily reliable. Even recent artifact lore suggests new interpretations. Somehow she planted in our mind the idea that Nibelung brought the Abyss to fight the Primordial One .. meanwhile Nibelung didn’t even know that the Primordial One was even in Teyvat when he returned. So it’s not just the Primordial One whose story is unclear.

So I’ve been thinking… is it possible that even the idea that he “invaded” or “colonized” Teyvat is also completely misrepresented? Some people say “no way, it’s written in BSAM by Istaroth!!” but it’s pretty obvious the text in the book is actually written from the perspective of Enkanomiya’s ancestors, not directly by her.

+ Half of teyvat history is unclear so i came up with this idea .. What do y’all think ?

Edited : also in TFODG i noticed a sentence that grammatically may say that Nibelung isn’t really from teyvat but i’m not sure

“It came from an unremarkable little world at the edge of the spiral arm — and from the primeval dragon that had been born alongside that world.” Alongside here doesn’t really mean he was born in teyvat

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u/_nxicl — 1 day ago
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dottore and arlecchino when there's only one orphan left (he needs a test subject and she wants another child soldier) 😭

"The child will be a test subject for my totally 100% success rate 'Become a Descender Project'!!!"

"No, she will become another Fatui Agent like a good Snezhnayan!!!"

u/strikeofmidnight12 — 3 days ago

Curse of wilderness

Why is the curse of wilderness place?

It's been said that it punishes those that have abandoned the gods but what does that entail.

In khaenri'ah it made those that weren't pure blooded khaenri'ah that left the city turned into hilichurls, but why would just entering the city and then leaving make one abandon the gods.

Hyperborea abandoned the gods and yet they didn't turn into hilichurls, they even attacked HP.

What if it's related to the abyss? We know that HP is afraid of the abyss and would do anything to get rid of it, so what if the requirements to abandon the gods be to be affected by the abyss.

Hilichurls are associated with the abyss, as seen in the Natlan abyss invasion.

Khaenri'ah is probably located in a place like the dark sea, a place where the gods gaze can't see, so the curse didn't affect those in the city. Khaenri'ah used the abyss as an energy source for everything so being in the city would affect everyone. Although I don't know why it doesn't affect the pure blooded khaenri'ah, maybe it has something to do with the Voyager as the boy she possessed had star-pupil, the same as every khaenri'ah we met.

Hyperborea is located in Snezhnaya so it wouldn't avoid the gods gaze, the moons even took care of them, so the curse probably didn't exist before the war of funerary flame.

The curse of immortality and wilderness seem to have the same function, to prevent those affected to enter the leylines, it makes them immortal and at the end they would eventually fade away as their memories are eroded away.

Irminsul absorbs the memories of the dead and eventually recycles them, so if the memories are gone and then when they die nothing is absorbed by Irminsul.

As seen in sumeru if Irminsul would be affected by the abyss it would cause the withering and the illness of Eleazar.

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u/hadtiah — 1 hour ago