r/SR17018

I have found my 7oh usage to be in the 800s and I figured I needed to chill and get off. I’ve brought myself down to 20mg a day from 600 almost a year ago using SR but my dumbass got back on it as soon as I was just about off and could finally feel it again and now it’s back up super high. Saturday night I took 100mg before bed of sr. Then Sunday, Mother’s Day, I took 150mg at 2:20pm, then around 4:20 right before we were about to eat I popped a 30mg 7oh tablet. Within 20 minutes I noticed as I was talking I was losing my voice. And this got worse and worse the more I tried to speak. My jaw kept cocking to the side and I couldn’t stop clenching my teeth. I laid down while family members called for an ambulance. When I got to the hospital they gave me a shot of toridol to help with the neck pain and it didn’t do much. Now my whole body is having tenors and my teeth are grinding so bad they had to stuff gauze in my mouth. I wasn’t going to tell them what I took even though I couldn’t speak anyways and they were having me write stuff down but my girlfriend decided to tell them which was smart. The hospital called poison control and they had never even heard of sr or 7oh. They gave me some IV doses of medicine for my “dystonic reaction” I was having, something they give to people with Parkinson’s or something I think is what the nurse said. I remember falling asleep and then being woke up by the doctor and I could finally speak. Because before I sounded like stitch from Lilo and Stitch with a sock in his mouth. I started talking to the doctor and my Jaw wasn’t cocked or clenched anymore but there were Sandy gritty bits of teeth in my teeth. They discharged me after being there for 6 hours. I wish I just gave up the 7oh when I got myself down with SR before but I’m not sure if I got a bad batch or what but I’m not touching it anymore. Not trying to scare anyone, just sharing my experience and research. For me, I’m going to have to stick to a strict taper schedule and get down low enough to where I can cold turkey from there because that experience was quite traumatic. Kudos to anyone who this substance is working for! But I’m going to have to take the hard route I guess. Especially since I’ve had good sr and got down 600mgs of 7oh in a week. I’ll have to figure out a different taper plan. Thanks for reading everyone. And have a blessed day! And remember, be careful out there!

Im at the point where I take so little SR that I can’t even measure my doses out on a mg scale, but the discomfort of withdrawal is still too much for me to handle. My tolerance is so low that I now just take tiny pinches of the powder with tweezers whenever I start feeling uncomfortable. I think this has lead me to hit a wall since I can’t consistently dose myself. I would like to start measuring out three 1mg doses throughout the day since I believe that’s about what I’m taking, but no consumer scales are accurate below 5mg.

I would have just diluted this stuff in water and then doses volumetrically, but SR being hydrophobic keeps me from being able to do this. I was wondering if there was any way to mix this stuff in a different powder and then dose myself using that, or maybe there’s a known liquid (and non toxic) solvent that I could use.

Has anyone else had any experience doing this?

Just to refresh my situation, I've been using 7oh pretty heavy daily for a pretty long stretch without breaks. About 3 weeks ago I was upwards of 1300-1500mg daily. I've also been on subs for the past 2 years, never skipping my daily sub dose. Talk about stupid. For the longest time, whenever I would take a break from 7, I'd usually just double my sub dose for a day or 2 and deal with a couple days of moderate WDs, but usually be just fine within 3 days or so. This past 9 week run with heavy 7 usage , my subs decided to stop working for me. I'd wake up EVERY night in full blown WDs from 7, even though I had just took my subs like 4-5 hours prior.

I had really went too far this time, always thinking buprenorphine would bail me out. So I thought maybe I'd try a few of those reset tabs along with my subs and cross my fingers. I didn't take any 7 all day yesterday and instead used 6 reset tabs spread out thru the day. I still took my daily bupe along with those reset tabs, and by the time yesterday evening got here , I seemed to be functioning pretty normally, even got a full night's rest, which hasn't happened in about 2 months !!!

I'm I believer in this SR compound for sure, because I thought for sure, my particular situation was pretty much hopeless

I’m kinda new here, I had an account but had to delete it as I was just reading and obsessing. I FINALLY started my sr to get off 7oh last night. I’m a 40’s f I don’t have time for this, absolutely stupid. I’m scared though, I’m in the healthcare industry and don’t want anything bad to happen. I keep telling myself this is safe, it’s going to help me, and that I’m going to be ok! No one knows this is happening, I want to tell my husband so badly but I’m afraid. Of what, I don’t know because he loves me deeply. I want to keep this to myself, I want this to be over. 300mg or so a day for about a year. I’m so ashamed…..it was just for pain yet as an ex opiate pill addict, I knew better. Any words of encouragement would be so welcomed

Just some background: Current fentynal (whatever in the dope in jersey i stay away from tranq.) user. My brother has been telling me about SR17 since about December for when im ready to detox. Well ill be starting tomorrow and we've discussed tapers and I understand im gonna feel out the dosage to start. I've detoxed myself a few times with subs as well as working in a detox family during my last clean time.

So im really just on here to ask for dosage advice, all the tips and things to know detoxing. I see mainly 7oh users post and I dont even know what that is. I've been doing dope for 15 years with a 2 year intermission among many 1-4 week breaks throughout the years.

Im detoxing completely and plan on not staying on any mood mind alt. Substances.

Any feedback welcome. Trying to stay detox related with he taper or how im investing Sr.

I plan on documenting daily for learning purposes as well as a cute reminder.

TYIA

I was on suboxone for years so my body has been fully dependent on opiods in the past.

I've been binging on MIT nearly every weekend for the past year, around 150mg a day (2 days in a row), and would then just ride out the noticeably unpleasant withdrawal from that use during the week.

I've been caught in this loop and tried using SR17 to get back to sobriety. I was on a low dose for 9 days with minimal wd symptoms from the MIT -- 30mg per day for 3 days, 20mg for 3 days, 10mg for 3 days and then jumped.

It is now 7 days later from taking any opiods or other drugs and I am still experiencing brutal RLS and muscle soreness from the SR17 that is still affecting my sleep. So for anyone who has a history of opiod use, expect that it's going to suck jumping off SR17 even if you taper. Liposomal vitamin C, agmatine, NAC, and ibuprofen are not going to take that edge off! These symptoms are absolutely worse than going cold turkey off my relatively low MIT dose.

For everyone else seeing people say that this drug is pleasant to come off, that is likely only true for new addicts. SR17 is not going to feel like a cake walk for people already in the game, that's for sure. Your body remembers and it always gets worse!

Hi all! I’m officially one week clean 😊 Which is forreal something I never thought I’d be able to say. I successfully finished my 10 days on SR and I’m feeling really good!!

Im happy to answer any questions about how I felt during or how I’m feeling now and all that. I wanted to make this post to share exactly what I did dosing wise in hopes it can help guide someone else! I don’t see a lot of posts that clearly describe day by day what someone did so I really hope this helps someone who needs it!

I think it’s reallyyy important to remember that everyone is different!! Your daily intake, tolerance, how long you’ve been taking 7oh, what you took, etc will all play a huge role in how much SR you need and when you need it.

For reference, I was taking around 450–500mg of 7oh daily for about two years. I didn’t do much preloading because I honestly just wanted to jump right in! The night before I started SR, I took 100mg of SR along with 100mg of 7oh just to preload my body a little and help me sleep like a baby lol.

Day 1 was definitely the hardest because I was still figuring out my baseline dose. If you can, I highlyyy recommend starting on a day off of work or school so you can really listen to your body and see what you personally need. I started by just taking 50mg at a time and waiting to see how I felt before taking more. I ended up needing about 250mg of SR to fully keep withdrawals away, so I knew that was my baseline dose. I took that dose 3x daily for the first two days, then tapered down by 50% every two days over the 10 day period.

Here’s the exact breakdown of what I did:

• Night before: 100mg SR + 100mg 7oh
• Day 1 and 2: 250mg SR 3x daily
• Day 3 and 4: 125mg SR 3x daily
• Day 5 and 6: 60mg SR 3x daily
• Day 7 and 8: 30mg SR AM & PM
• Day 9 and 10: 15mg SR AM only

I posted this earlier today in a Facebook group and figured it would be helpful to post on Reddit! I’m happy I answer any questions the best I can!!

Thank You Guys and Thank SR17018!

Just wanted to share my appreciation to this subreddit, the master doc, and whoever created this amazing chemical! I used SR to get off of a nasty 500mg+ a day 7OH habit, and it wasn’t perfect but at my worst I maybe felt 10% at most 15% of what a normal WD feels like. Of course it doesn’t do the work for you, and I’ve started going back to meetings as much as I might hate it at times, but I need my life back, and 7OH had taken it from me. All I can say is if you have the SR and you’re worried about making the jump, just do it! It’s not nearly as bad as I made it out to be in my head. Thank you to everyone involved with this!

I beat a 4-6mg a day Suboxone habit with the SR. The first few days of the switch I was calling it a miracle drug, I was so impressed that I was ready to drop my job and devote myself to spreading the word of SR, offering free help to its inventor etc. Truly Impressed.

I opted for a longer protocol based on the long half-life of Suboxone. 22 days today. Everything went immensely well throughout the process. However once my dose started to get under 100ish mg a day my body started to remember what it was like to be sober. I felt a good amount of dysphoria and anhedonia. By the 17th day, I was starting to get terrified I wouldn’t be able to function or maintain my job. Anxiety was ok ish but fear was prominent. Throughout the process I experienced very little physical withdrawal, maybe a day or two of diarrhea.
Other than that, I was able to work a very physically demanding job every day I was supposed to, although I didn’t have an easy time being there, I had a bit of a hard time focusing and just wanted to be bored elsewhere.

When the anhedonia started peaking, a supplement recommended from some in this group arrived. And basically saved my life. Bromantane, popular in the nootropic community. 2 hours after taking it, I felt happy for the first time in weeks, maybe months, probably even years. It was like I remembered the secret joke in my head and all the sudden I could laugh, smile and feel happy again. I would highly recommend it as I think during the opioid detox, my dopamine stopped firing completely and the bromantane brought it back online. I’m on a slew of other more natural supplements.

Yesterday was a 15mg and I can’t say I feel better or worse today. My brain chemistry has obviously been bouncing all over the map the last week, trying to re adapt to a new baseline of relative sobriety. I wish I had cut out Kratom, but thought “one thing at a time” and conquering the suboxone is huge for me. I’ll likely make another attempt for the Kratom when I’ve had a break from SR. The SR definitely seemed to have blunted the effects of Kratom completely for me.

Anyhow, for any people going through this, SR is maybe the biggest game changer in opioid addiction treatment(self treatment). It is truly incredible.
For those of you struggling with opioid addiction. This will help. For those of you struggling near the end or after SR protocol, Remember that it will take some time for all the chemistry of our systems to balance out. It can get better one day and rougher for the next for some time until it levels out, but remember they will level outs suffering isn’t permanent.

Greatly appreciate this forum and all the folks in it helping humans with the human condition. It brings me joy and fills my heart that people really care here.

To all the pioneers I applaud you and wish you continued and lasting success.

A few weeks ago I was taking somewhere in the 1300-1500mg ballpark of 7 daily. I've managed to get that down to around 250-300. I still take 12mg buprenorphine daily, but it has pretty much stopped working for me. I still wake up around 2am in full blown WDs every night. In past 7oh quits, it is my experience that if I can just get thru a full 24 hours, maybe 36 hours without taking 7, my buprenorphine usually starts working well enough for me to get out of the severe acutes from 7.

Here's my question, if I was to stop taking 7oh, and instead start taking SR for a full day, meanwhile STILL taking my daily sub dose, but only taking SR for a day , just long enough for my subs to start working again, does anyone think that might work??

Just want to know what I may be getting into by doing SR to stop 7oh compared to doing plane leaf kratom to stop 7oh. I’ve already experience what the WD of tapering normal kratom leaf is like. Whats the WD of tapering SR if I switch to that?

I've done some research but really haven't found much.

I have a plethora of chronic health issues that are going to require me to be on prescription opioids basically forever.

I've done a pretty damn good job keeping my tolerance as low as possible with strict use, and incorporating ultra low dose naltrexone. I'm always looking for ways to keep my prescription use as low as possible.

Can SR be incorporated as a way to lower tolerance and continue use? I don't mean using both my prescriptions and SR at the same time, I mean possibly using SR to do a couple week re-set and medication "holiday", and then continue using my prescriptions.

Any insight would be helpful! Thanks guys!

I don’t know what the overall market prices tend to be. Please only relate it to other PILL forms you’ve seen, i am not gonna be weighing out any powders. I understand powder form is cheaper. But I want to know based on what you’ve seen for pills. Thanks.

I am on day 9 of no methadone using sr. Been oN The methadOne ClINIc FOR 10 YeArs. I FEEl LikE iM Dying. even with The sr. I'm tAkiNg 100 Mg 3 times a day. it helps very very little. It's maDE my Detox Go from A 10 to a 7. ,,im very very sick I can't function LIke this. It's hoRrible. I'm scared to take too much sr for too long just to have to get off this too. trading one thing for another it feels like. day 4&5 were horrible. day 6&7 I felt much better. day ,8&9 I think are the worst yet. I feel hopeless guys I see no light at the end of this tunnel rn. it just seems to be getting worse not better. I need another break from this severe withdrawal hopefully tomorrow gets better again..IDk if I can make it much longer I have to function and take care of responsibilities.

I’m using SR to transition off of 7oh later this week. My plan was to do the SR for a few days and then do subs after that for a couple days until I feel back to 100%.

Does anyone know if you need to wait like 12-24 hours to do the subs after last dose of SR? I have no experience with this stuff, so just wanted to be sure before I dive in.

A few weeks ago I was taking 10-12 30mg of 7 for the last two years, I switched it up and only buy 10 mg tabs now but want to quit all of it. I have some sr that arrived today. I have been taking 7-9 10 mg tabs per day. I currently have about 25 10 mg of 7 left, 20 of the m-15 and 20 50 mg sr tabs. I can purchase more of everything if need be. I have got to get off of it all together. I want to stop so bad. No one is making or forcing me. Any advice is greatly appreciated. My wife is on a whole new level, admitted to a psychiatric unit and a rehab to detox. I can control my shit a little better than her. Thanks in advance for the advice.

Hi all, quick background: I'm about to start SR for a long-time heavy kratom habit that recently involves 7OH as well. Been at about 50 gpd kratom for a few years, and only messed with 7OH for the last 2 months but pretty quickly got up to 180-200 mg per day. Have cut the 7OH down to 60-75 mg per day over the last week to prepare for SR.

My question is about RLS on SR. Curious if anyone (specifically those who have experienced bad RLS before) has found SR is able to keep it away/minimal? I've CT'ed kratom a number of times over the years and RLS is literally the one and only feature I can't seem to get past each time.

From reading through, it sounds like SR keeps it away for some but not for others. Same seems to be true for liposomal vitamin C megadosing. WD symptoms obviously vary a lot person to person, and my guess is if RLS is always the worst part for you, SR may not be able to keep it away fully. But would love to hear if anyone's experience has proven otherwise!

40 mg to start out 3 times a day for 3 days maybe 50 depending on if I need that much or not and my 7 oh dose two times a day split in half over the next 3 days . Over the next 3 days it'll be 75mg or less 3 times a day. The next two days 50mg two times a day. Then slowly cut down down every two days until done

I don’t want to buy more than I need, but I don’t want to run out too fast. I’m coming off of 7oh. I take 10-20mg every few hours.

suboxone cause precipitated withdrawal if you are taking any other opiate. what about with SR? if you have been taking sr for 9 days straight.. and you were to take a suboxone or a small piece. would the Suboxone put you into precip withdrawal? Google says yes there is a huge risk of it. other posts ive read say it won't cause it with sr. which is it? anyone know for 100% certain