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I’m disappointed with how they seem to doubt Frank’s intentions. We know he wasn’t the most attentive, and maybe he had grown to resent Claire in the latter years of their time together, but he’s always seemed to have the best intentions at heart.

He was a good father to Brianna, he respected Claire enough to let her have her career and continue to support her.

One of his first acts upon having Claire back is to let her keep her ring.

I actually felt bad for him upon first watching of his relationship with Claire. It seemed she wouldn’t let him be happy. (It’s been a while since I watched, and haven’t done a full rewatch.)

Spoilers further ahead.

To have Jamie and Claire speak of his book as if it’s a deliberate slight against them, or that he was looking for Claire in history, or that he concealed the knowledge of Jamie’s death from Claire to wound her heart when she lived through it, and to have him be this haunting voice in the back of their heads, it’s just not… not right?

This isn’t the man whose care and love for Bree, got her to be this confident woman she is, this isn’t the man who despite doubts still welcomed Claire home, who spent years looking for her.

Maybe it’s because the last time I recall him being portrayed is on Bree’s departure from Scotland in the past, seeing her off, I just thought he was a good but flawed man.

I suppose it’s wishful thinking and maybe I’m thinking the best of him, but I thought the book would have been like a warning at best, hoping that they would find the book and do with it, what they would, or him keeping vigil, to see if Claire did find Jamie and if they lived out their lives in peace, but upon finding out he dies, Frank hiding this from Claire was a mercy. (I don’t recall whether he ever believed fully she was a time traveler.)

I greatly anticipated Oultander’s eighth season. I actually rewatched the whole show in November so all the plot was still fresh in my mind when the 8th season was broadcasted.

But when I watched the first episode, I felt something was off. Was it the plot, the acting, the way it was filmed ? I did not catch it at the time. My boyfriend said that he thought it had always been filmed this way, that nothing was different and that maybe it was my taste that had changed.

But as weeks passed, It definitively felt like it has been “Netflixised”. The photography is too neat, too dull, too beautiful, everything is smooth and “marketingly”. Even the seventh season is better. The quality is off, I feel like I’m watching a second-hand tv show. Even the music is weirdly chosen ! I feel like Caitriona and Sam are carrying the show and yet their scenes are alike in each episode and they do not get the opportunity to show more of their acting skills.

I feel so frustrated ! I’m guessing that if the first season was to be broadcasted today, it would have had that boring and hollywoody vibe…

What are your thoughts ?

>!Now that Fanny‘s identity is revealed, is it possible for her and Jane to be Claire’s and Jamie’s granddaughters? I didn’t think Faith would be old enough to have daughters that age. Did anyone do that math to see how much time has passed since Claire had faith and how old Faith was when she had children? !<

Why do people always complain when Claire has more lines than Jamie, but never the other way around? In episode 6 of this season, Claire barely had a dozen lines and no arc at all, just nodding most of the time, yet people never complained or said a word about it. But in episode 7, when Claire gets to be the one who tells Fanny about the Faith tragedy, people are complaining.
And the worst part is that the actress gets hated on for it even when she seems to agree with the author with her dislike for the episode.

Yes, Jamie grieved the loss too, but Claire went through the actual experience of giving birth, losing the baby, holding her, and singing to her, all while Jamie was in prison, until Claire suffered another humiliating ordeal by sleeping with the king to get him free. So it makes sense that she gets to be the one who tells it.

And in the end, Jamie was the one who got the final resolution with Fanny when she calls him Grandpa and helps him grieve his son, while Claire is not even shown grieving like Jamie.

I know it’s fiction, I have suspended belief several times before in this show. Ive always liked the show regardless. And I know the season isn’t over so there may be things answered but as more things are revealed there are so many more questions!

&gt;!Master Raymond knew he wasn’t likely to be coming back. For some reason Hildegard can’t be trusted with the baby, why? Raymond tells the lacemaker to look for Lady Broch Turach, but Claire is in the hospital for weeks in the same area… why not tell them that?!<

&gt;!Why does Faith blindly chase Lady Broch Turach to North Carolina without sending a letter to family at Lallybroch, telling them to inform Claire that they’re on their way to meet them. And Jane knew Faith was venturing to find her mother, why hadn’t she attempted to send her own letter once she was with William, or at least told him, hey now that I’m free, I’m looking for this Lady Broch Turach. She doesn’t tell him but she tells a story teller?!<

Tell me if I’m missing something obvious, it all seems so mashed together and random.

Does anyone else feel like so far the last season seems… off? It doesn’t give me the same vibe as the other seasons and it has somewhat been too slow for me. I would love to see more of Claire and Jamie as they close this series instead of others. There’s been too much screen time for William, lord John, and Brianna ….. just hoping it grabs my attention and edge of my seat while the final episodes come out.

For those struggling with the latest episode, perhaps this will help.

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/gSyn7fTMYj0

I started reading the books late last year and then found out there was a TV series. Although I’m a new-ish fan, I’ve read/listened up to book 6 (waiting for Kristin Atherton’s narration 😉) and I’m fully caught up with the show.

I know it’s been said so many times but I’ll say it again. They introduced too many plot lines and focused on too many characters this season! We are living on borrowed time with only so many episodes left. I am so anxious that I’ll be disappointed. Because you can’t have a series that went on for years then rush through the last season 😭 We need proper closure.

I’m mad about the Faith storyline (William and Jane? I want to barf). I’m mad about Fergus— what was the point of bringing up Le Comte St. Germaine? I’m wondering why William and John are getting so much screen time?!

What is up with this season 😭 I love Outlander too much for it to end like this.

Guys… I was looking at the cast list for episode 9 “Pharos” and happened to see Laura Donnelly (Jenny), Maria Doyle Kennedy (Jocasta), Andrew Gower (Charles Stuart), and a few others from previous seasons. I know the next 2 episodes are written by Diana Gabaldon so I am hopeful... BUT any theories as to what is going to happen in the next episode with these characters?? I’m thinking flashbacks, but now I’m intrigued!

Since it seems Roger and Bree are going to remain in the 18th century, what is going to happen to Lallybroch in the 1980s and beyond? As far as the local officials know, the family that lived there has disappeared under mysterious circumstances and will never come back. This is a loose end that is bothering me.

So William is Jane half Uncle? If Jane and Fanny are Claire and Jamie grandchildren. Jane was in season 7 and she resembled Breanna so much. This makes sense. He didn’t know though or did I miss something? Jane and Fanny are Faith children. Faith is Jamie and Claire stillborn baby.

So how do I say goodbye to a story that has captivated me for so many years?

I watched Season1 4x times, then following seasons 1-3x, recently started Season 8, and after two episodes, I decided to stop and... read (or rathe, listen to the audiobooks) ALL the books. 350 hours of listening, tell me, am I sane? What a feast!

How do you manage with the inevitable END?

So maybe I am completely missing something but when Claire finds Fanny she is singing some song which supposedly is from the future if I got that right? When Claire is asking where she knows the song from, she says here mother sang it to her. Wouldn’t this mean at least Faith was brought to the future if she really survived and then sang it to Jane who then on the other hand sang it to Fanny?

Am I not getting something here or is this the big resolution we are awaiting in season 8?

Do you think the final episode will be longer than usual? It's difficult to see how everything will be tied up/explained with just three hour long episodes left. I'm hoping that Episode 10 will be movie length...

The one who kidnapped Jemy and was Brianna's coworker?

SO just for background I watched S1&2 forever ago (like when they were airing) but didn’t keep up with the show. I’m now listening to the books and my question is: Do the book series and the show use the same pacing? Like is one book the same as one season? I’m trying to listen to a book, and then watch the corresponding season ideally. I know that some shows do less than a season or multiple season per book, so I’m just trying to get some insight. Thank you in advance!!

I see the Outlander Costume Display is making its rounds. It’s currently in Williamsburg, VA and that’s only a 5 hour drive for me. Does anyone know where else this display will be? I have to see it and I would have to talk my husband into taking me on this road trip. Wasn’t sure if it would hit Philly or not?

What age is Jamie thereabouts in the novella virgins? I am thinking 17 or 18?

It was in my mind the line Jamie says to Claire in their wedding night; ‘I said I was a virgin, not a monk’ 🤣🤣🤣

I’d love a prequel show on this too, showing his and Ian’s life before the Outlander journey. I would love more of these stories, as I’m enjoying the Lord John novellas, but find I prefer sticking to the core stories/ books.

I absolutely loved this book, thanks to whoever it was in this community recommended I read it.💖