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Dominate. Vin soothes Human the Koloss with Duralumin to take control, piece by Satoshi Kamanaka. This art piece can be found in the Mistborn setting Handbook for the Cosmere RPG, releasing this Fall!

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Is it because preservation was overall weaker than ruin and didn’t have the power to spare to make into a metal?

Overall: I love the series, currently on Bands of Mourning. So when I say "Weakest" It's not meant to be taken as "trash".

But I'm very split on Well of Ascension in terms of my preferential placement in era 1. Genuinely, it has some of the best moments in the entire series, while also having some of the most under baked moments (In my opinion)

Vin splitting Straff in half? Art.
Vin taking over the Koloss? Amazing.
Elend's fight for the crown? Great!
TenSoon plot twist? Phenomenal!
Sazed and his relationship? Fantastic!

...then you have other moments that... miss the mark for me.

1. Zane - Actually, it's less about Zane's character and more of Vin's "entertainment" of him. The only moment that I felt the urge of tossing this book is when Vin contemplated on going with him and feeling like she belonged with Zane and not Elend. When she was asking Sazed on "how do you know if you love someone?" drove me personally bananas.

1b. Attack on Cett's Keep - This felt like Vin holding the idiot ball (or idiot stick) to progress the plot. The scene in of itself was awesome, but the motives behind it felt bleh to me (again, relating to Zane, and Vin entertaining him)

2. Ruin's Prophetic Rewrites - I love the concept, and I love the call back to "I write these words in steel, for anything not set in metal cannot be trusted." but the concept overall didn't... fully hit the mark for me. The concept of Ruin being able to alter metal minds and change words on prophecies but not being able to see or read metal kind of came off as "I am a Powerful deity but my weakness is something common among man" and I grumbled a bit about it.

I also wished a little more... sign posting about it. Brandon talks about this a lot in his lectures and I felt that Ruin being able to rewrite prophecies came too much out of left field. If there was one scene that showed a third party person looking at the rubbing once, and then looking at it later again and noticing that there was one word changed; that would have made the reveal all the more sweeter and a little less out of nowhere.

3. Ruin Being Able to Impersonate Preservations Ghost - I had to think hard about this one because it affected numerous plot points and I couldn't figure out what bothered me until I had a chat with my wife. This plot point ties back to the 1st book and goes all the way to secret history. Ruin being able to impersonate preservation in his ghostly/wisp form (and actually 'kill' someone while also throwing Vin off a roof) without the characters being able to distinctly tell the difference in some way came off as a bit of a cheap trick.

Theres a few other nitpicks but overall those were my major issues with Well of Ascension... Maybe I missed some details? or does anyone else have the same feelings as I do?

Hey everyonee so I just finished The Hero of Ages and I just wanted to share some fresh thoughts and feelings!

I'm both so hyped and touched! Spent the last few pages crying, everytime Sanderson described the beauty of the world being reborn i got so emotional. It was so tender, the epylogue most of all. I must say, I'm still not sure at how I feel about Sazed being the Hero of Ages, I need time to ponder and probably would be sure of that only if i read the books again. With that said, with Sazed always having been my favourite character, I can't not be happy for this choice. While Vin was trying to fix the planet and was so frustrated at her ignorance I kept thinking, you need Sazed and all the knowledge in his copperminds! And at the end I was right hehehe. I always loved how Sanderson crafted this man of knowledge, patient, curios and caring. What a good parent for the world : )

I think it makes sense for Vin and Elend to die at the end: Elend had already died, and Vin had only survived so many times to serve her purpose. And I think it would have been even more heartbreaking had one survived without the other. As Sazed said, they do deserve some rest, and Sanderson even reassures us that they're together and sentient somewhere : ) so i think it's for the best (narrative wise also)

I also liked that Kelsier never came back, I liked him as he was, a man, maybe with something more, I suspect, but I prefer him being left like this is in the series. Also REALLY loved TenSoon and in general the effort Sanderson makes at showing every creature's pov and humanity. It felt fair. Really loved that.

Lastly, even though I never got too attached to Spook, I liked that he was chosen as the "heir", of Kelsier, the crew, and generally of the burden and privilege of caring for and leading the world reborn. It felt a recall to the scene in WoA, when the crew left in Luthadel hopes for the younger generation (Elend, Vin and Spook, leaving the capital), saved and left to rebuild. He was the youngest and the beginning of the book, it's only fair he inherits the world anew. It's how it works.

Okay, now I'm done! I really loved this series! Haven't been so hyped and taken by a fantasy series in so many years! What do you reccomend reading next?? I'm conflicted between continuing with the Mistborn series or getting into Stormlight Archives, as I've gathered it's regarded as Sanderson's best work!

Feel free to share your thoughts too, would love to hear and discuss, I have a lot more to sayy

PS: why did he have to make Breeze and Allrianne a couple? It felt so unnecessary and never striked me right. meh

I have just finished the Well of Ascension, and have been reading/watching reviews online.

I noticed nobody talks about something I found to be a massively important character point- Zane might be an inquisitor?

I believe in one of the chapters in the second half, Zane briefly mentions that he has a metal spike in his body. This must mean he is an inquisitor, which would change everything about his background and weaknesses.

Is this something people skim over? Am I misunderstanding? Or is this not as big of a deal as I am making it out to be?

Just finished Mistborn 1-3. Haven’t read Secret History or the later books yet.

The books seem to suggest that Feruchemistry and Allomancy are of Preservation and Hemalurgy is of Ruin. But the manifestations of the powers don’t fit that imo.

Feruchemistry is of Preservation- this one I get. You are storing powers for later use.

Allomancy is of Preservation- using Allomancy requires burning/destroying metal. Seems more Ruin to me.

Hemalurgy- transferring power from one person to another kind of feels like Preservation. Power is being maintained over time unlike Allomancy where it’s temporary. An argument could be that Hemalurgy requires death so maybe Hemalurgy is both Preservation and Ruin?

>!I'm just a bit past the part where Spook burning tin like crazy and people are beggining to worship him/the idea of him kind of like they did Keisler or Kiesler however it's spelt.!<

>!I'm specifically up to the part where Vin and Elend (MOST WHOLESOME COUPLE EVER) are in this guy's ball and Elend's distracting the king there while Vin sneaks downstairs.!<

>!Everything's building up to the end of the series and I'm so excited to see how it all comes together. But then again I also have this feeling that they're all going to die or something even more tragic than what happened at the end of book 2 will occur😭!<

>!AND GUYS WHAT'S UP WITH KEISLIER'S VOICE IN SPOOK'S HEAD?! IS IT REALLY KIESLER OR IS SPOOK'S MIND A BIT ALTERED BECAUSE OF HIS TIN USAGE? Also...also also also HEAR ME OUT - could the voice be Ruin?!<

>!I'm not too sure WHAT Ruin is yet but Marsh was saying that even if just a thin (special) metal spike got put into the right place (like with the guy who he put the spike in his heart but he continued living because it was small and now Ruin could influence his thoughts blah blah blah) Ruin could influence the direction of their thoughts/emotions and whatnot. But I'm not sure 'Ruin' would be able 'speak' in Spook's mind but if he/it/whatever WAS able to then I guess it would make sense for Spook to presume it was Kielelser.!<

>!And guyssss Marsh is going to have his big hero moment and the end (and probably sacrifice himself by doing so but whateverrrr) I can FEEL IT and I'm so excited.!<

>!And hermatalology or whatever it is?? (I know the spelling's wrong but it's the one like the other two - Feuarmoalology and Allomacy. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN-) It's so interestingggg especially with the formation of the koloss and kandra and the things that the kandra were before being turned into kandra (mistwraiths? I'm pretty sure.) and then the inquisitors and obligators and just everything in general is just AH it's so good.!<

>!And also I wanted to mention that Elend and Vin both embracing the different parts of who they are as an entire person is just so fun and amazing to read and I love them so much. HOWEVER, Spook has been getting a little too much pov time recently (love his povs btw - Spook is goated change my mind (imagine if he commits some kind of atrocity at the end of the book 😭)) which makes me think that either HE'S going to die OR maybe all the previous main characters (like Vin and Elend and ham and everyone else) are going to die heroically and become immortilized (as we all should know by now, I'm hopeless at spelling) in legend just as Kelsier was.!<

>!OH MY GOODNESS AND THE LITTLE LORE THINGS AT THE BEGGINING OF EACH CHAPTER - we're getting so closee to everything just syncing up and clicking and I cannot wait.!<

>!annnd there's definitely a whole lot more I would love to talk about but this is already a little long and I just wanted to share where I was partly because I had done one of these rants when I had first started the series (I was up to chapter four or something of book one I'm not even kidding lol) and I wanted to do another one at the end of the series as a full circle kind of thing but also because I just needed to talk about this SOMEWHERE.!<

>!I haven't mentioned nearly everything at ALL but I'm going to leave it here lmao.!<

>!IF IT REALLY IS KEILESER BTW AND HE COMES BACK FROM THE DEAD OR POSSIBLY PRETEND DEATH THEN I'LL BE SO HYPED YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND (OR MAYBE YOU DO SINCE YOU'RE ALL ON HERE TO TALK ABT THE SERIES).!<

>!I might write another one of these when I finish - wish me luck and hope that my heart doesn't shatter from the most inconcievably dramatic ending that I'm anticipating to sweep rugs out from under my feet that I didn't even know where there😭!<

I read the first book of the series and really enjoyed it. I was looking forward to Well of Ascension, But within the first few pages, Vin punches a dog in the face, carries his unconscious body back to her Kandra for death. I thought she seemed very hard and unfeeling. It changed my perception of Vin and I’m not sure if I want to continue reading. Is this a theme that will continue throughout the series?

Hi! At risk of him possibly seeing this post😂 I‘m wanting to make a Mistborn-themed cat toy for my cousin who is OBSESSED with this series and I’m confident has read them all.

I haven’t gotten around to reading it, so I’m not familiar with what symbols or objects I could sew out of felt and stick on a string😉 His cat’s name is Vin if you even have any ideas that are specific to that character. I appreciate any help, thanks so much!

*I’m ok with spoilers :)

Couldn't you just poke the gun half-way through the speed bubble and then fire? The bullet would still pass through the edge of the field while inside the gun's barrel but would be forced to remain straight.

Maybe you could argue that the force of the bullet passing through would jerk the arm, even while inside the barrel. But even then a Thug or Skimmer could probably hold against it. Or they bring a gun with a strong enough brace against the ground where there wouldn't be jerked as hard. Even if it had set up time, inside the speed bubble it wouldn't technically take long.

More still, if people took the time I'm sure someone could create a gun where the bullets are on one side of the time field while the trigger is on the other.

I find it hard to believe none of these things were thought of.

Just started Mistborn Era 2 (Alloy of Law) after absolutely loving Era 1, and I’m really struggling with it.

I’ve got about two hours of listening left on the audiobook but I’m genuinely not enjoying it.

Compared to Era 1 it feels small - tiny cast, low stakes, not much happening beyond bad some guys stealing stuff. Era 1 had Vin’s whole arc, Elend, Sazed, multiple perspectives and timelines - I was emotionally invested throughout despite slow periods. Wax and Wayne just feel like two random petty crime investigators that I don’t really care about.

I’ve heard books 2 and 3 in the series are better, but is it worth pushing through when I’m this disengaged? Or should I bail and move on to Stormlight Archive which sounds more like what I loved about Era 1?