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Lies of p 2 has entered full development, information via @Culture Crave :>
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Lies of p 2 has entered full development, information via @Culture Crave :>

u/No_Post1300 — 1 day ago
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Neowiz and Round 8 Studio (Lies of P publisher and dev) have commented on the "AI Artist" job opening

As the Lies of P sequel enters full-scale development, developer Neowiz says it's working on another Soulslike and a narrative RPG | Eurogamer.net

Responding to Eurogamer, the official response from Neowiz and Round 8 Studio is as follows:

"The job posting in question is not a role that will be directly involved in the production of the Lies of P sequel. Instead, they will reside within an independent art R&D team at Round8. GenAI tools are only used in preliminary stage work to improve efficiency of repetitive, foundational tasks. AI-generated visuals function strictly as internal reference material during pre-production, a method for establishing visual direction before formal production begins. The intent is to build a proprietary visual library trained exclusively on assets for which Neowiz and Round8 hold full legal rights. All final assets for the upcoming game will be created by experienced artists."

u/arividerchimagmuasue — 3 hours ago
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Lead concept artist left. New job posting for an “AI Creator” who generates concept art. It all makes sense..

u/AshyLarry25 — 2 days ago
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Lies of P’s studio announced they were looking for an AI artists…

u/MaleficTekX — 2 days ago
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Venigni cosplay

the richest guy in krat is dismantling my roomba for fun

coat and waistcoat are 100% handmade! using a pattern that specifically said do not use striped fabric, and I said, but what if I did anyway?

u/gerbiloftriumph — 3 days ago
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Regarding the topic of AI posts and the usage for future games

Hello, Puppets,

We’ve seen the recent surge of discussion regarding AI usage in Lies of P, while we encourage conversation and debate about this topic. We ask everyone to remain civil and respectful of each other’s opinions, even when disagreements arise.

We also want to make it clear that we do not allow posts or comments spreading rumors or speculation about employees or staff at NEOWIZ that have not been publicly stated by them.

Disliking the use of AI is not an excuse to target individuals or spread misinformation

We understand the concern and frustration many of you have regarding this matter, and we appreciate everyone who continues to discuss it respectfully.

If discussions begin getting out of hand, we may create a megathread for the topic and remove duplicate AI-related posts moving forward.

Stay safe out there.

— Lies of P Mod Team

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u/AndreasE03 — 1 day ago
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UPDATE ON THE AI CONTROVERSY IN THE LIES OF P SEQUEL

Recently, concerns arose in the community after a job posting for an “AI Creator” was discovered at Neowiz and Round8 Studio, leading many to believe that the Lies of P sequel would use AI-generated content in its core development.

However, both companies have now officially clarified the situation:

- The position is NOT directly involved in the production of the Lies of P sequel.

- The job belongs to an independent artistic R&D team within Round8.

- Generative AI tools would only be used during preliminary pre-production stages, such as internal visual references and art direction exploration.

- All final game assets will continue to be created by experienced human artists.

- Furthermore, they assure that any model used would be trained exclusively on material for which they hold full legal rights.

In other words:

The controversy arose from the interpretation that AI would be directly replacing the artwork in the final game, but according to the official statement, the goal is to use it as an internal tool for conceptual support, not to generate the final assets we'll see on screen.

Even so, the debate about the use of AI in the industry remains open, especially regarding issues related to creativity, intellectual property, and the preservation of traditional artwork.

What do you think?

Does this clarification reassure you, or are you still worried about the direction the industry is taking?

Art by: Kyara🦋💙 @loveofapuppet | @kyara_3bimuu | @kyara_bimuuyume

u/PeaInteresting3843 — 2 hours ago
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Neowiz AI job listing info

I saw a lot of posts about this on twitter, and saw a lot of people bashing both Lies of P (not sure why if this is for a future game) and the company. So I went to their site to read the listing, and I think a few things need to be cleared up:

- This job listing is not for the Lies of P sequel. They are still hiring a narrative designer, level designer, level artist, developer, concept artist, engine programmer, combat programmer, content planner, level planner, etc. specifically for the sequel

- Their AI Creator listing is not for basic generative ai that people post on social media. It's more of an editing tool that needs a programmer. They want the employee to be both knowledgeable and experienced in real traditional 2D art and 3D modelling. Yes, it's meant to speed up processes, no it's not meant to replace the artists.

- Imagine needing to draw 400000 yellow bricks (example because the next game is oz, right?), instead of doing that you might draw 8000 bricks and then pass it to the AI creator in the team, "Hey, can you plug this into the program as data and increase the amount 50 times? I need to work on the Emerald city now." and the creator does so but then uses real coding/programming skills to tweak the generation so it retains the quality of the original 8000.

- The job listing states they want someone who understand the legal guidelines of both AI ethics and copyright

- If you're worried about AI training, Neowiz is building their library themself for the content they are creating, which means they won't be outsourcing material. Like the example earlier, it'll just go from one team to the next.

- AI isn't new in video games at all! In recent years, people see "AI" and immediately call it slop, but the AI usage in the video game industry usually isn't the AI that's harmful. (https://youtu.be/j3LW5no-5Ao) This video by a video game designer explains it well. Having majored in video game design (though my concentration was on writing and narrative, so I'm not the expert on all of the tech/visual side) and minored in visual effects, I can say using AI in software is starting to get pretty common in visual effects and animation too (not nearly as common as classic CGI though), it's near impossible to create some particles without the computer's help.

- Here’s a link to the listing in case anyone wants to check for themself: https://www.neowiz.com/en/career/browse-job/043f65b9-9c3e-4063-9a86-d73eccae503e

It's in Korean though, you'll need to use a translator if you don't speak it. I used a translator, so feel free to correct me if I got anything wrong.

u/softestruler — 2 days ago
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I feel like I'm worthless.

Lies of P est mon tout premier jeu « Souls ».

Je viens de vaincre le quatrième boss et je me demandais si c'était normal qu'il me faille une vingtaine d'essais pour chaque boss.

J'ai vaincu le premier boss du premier coup. Idem pour l'Âne Fou. Mais il m'a fallu une vingtaine d'essais pour les deuxième et troisième boss, et une dizaine pour le quatrième.

Je n'ai pas trop de difficultés dans les zones. Je meurs un peu, mais surtout à cause d'embuscades ou de pièges (enfin, les poutres dans la cathédrale… c'était peut-être le pire moment depuis le début).

Je commence à me dire que je dois être vraiment mauvais. Et comme c'est mon premier jeu, je ne sais pas comment sa difficulté se compare à celle des jeux de From Software. J'apprécie le jeu et je progresse, ce n'est pas le problème. Mais je me demande si 20 tentatives pour un boss du début du jeu, c'est pas un peu excessif.


[Edit] I wasn't expecting so many responses! I thank everyone who took the time to reply.

I admit I made the mistake of giving too much weight to comments from people boasting about beating bosses in just a few tries (or even on their first attempt). I'm going to stop counting my attempts as well.

I made a mistake in the title. I'm not English. What I meant was different from what was understood (and I can't change it). Instead of attacking the person mindlessly, correct them ; that will be more intelligent.

I'm not depressed (I'm actually doing very well, haha), I don't consider myself "bad" in life, just in this game. I really like the game, I'm having fun, and, once again, I was just wondering if it was normal to die so many times against the first bosses. The answer is "Yes".

I did clearly state that this was my first "Souls" game. Furthermore, I'm not a "geek" or a "gamer." I just play a few games occasionally. Again, I don't fully grasp how difficult this game is. I just wanted a "Yes" or a "No" answer to my question. I got a "Yes." That's all.

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u/Vancelric — 3 days ago
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Will you still play Round 8's next game?

I'm not sure if post like this is allowed, but regarding recent news about their AI usage, i just wanted to know everyone's thought about their next game.

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u/HANBANNNNNNNNNN — 3 days ago
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I bought it because on the trailer it looked like expedition 33. I dont know what to expect from the game but I am positive i will like it.

u/Qu1kSilver_X — 8 days ago
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I do not like this clown, Charlie

His smug aura mocks me.

A+ trolling on the dev team lmao

u/paintedoggo — 1 day ago
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I am having more fun playing lies of p than elden Ring

That's what the title says I playing elden ring not much I killed there like 4-5 bosses (Took me hours hours)

And the same did i on lies of p right now

My favorite genre is open world but somehow lies of P fells so idk "alive"?

Also this is no hate to elden ring I still love that game.

I just wanna explore more lies of p than on elden ring lol

Does someone fell the same here or i am just beginning weird?

u/Kuro_FunWays — 6 days ago