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Lebanese models
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Lebanese models

Here is a DNA model of the Lebanese people. The Lebanese are the people who live in the historical region of Mount Lebanon and the Anti-Lebanon Mountains, as well as everyone living within the borders of modern Lebanon — borders that were drawn by France by combining several regions with the Vilayet of Mount Lebanon.

Lebanon is famously known as the land that was once home to a Mediterranean superpower — the Phoenicians. Yes, they were the ones who built Carthage and had influence across the entire Mediterranean Sea. Modern genetic research shows that the Lebanese are descendants of the Canaanites, which automatically means they are descendant of Phoenicians as well.

I created this model, and here are the samples I used as references for it:

Mesopotamia_IA:Mesopotamia_IA_Batman_(Mesopotamian_Profile)_(low_res)_(n=1),0.09675,0.133034,-0.04978,-0.075905,-0.012925,-0.009203,-0.003055,-0.008769,-0.015135,-0.005285,0.012504,0.006594,-0.00996,0.013762,-0.00475,0.00305,0.030771,-0.000127,0.011439,-0.00075,0.004243,-0.006306,-0.013804,-0.003012,0.012095

Mesopotamia_IA:Mesopotamia_IA_Neo-Assyrian-Achaemenid_Batman_(Mesopotamian_Profile)_(n=1),0.099026,0.139128,-0.070144,-0.065892,-0.030775,-0.021196,0.00282,-0.007615,-0.018407,-0.008747,0.002923,-0.003297,0.003568,0.003028,-0.002036,0.002917,-0.004824,0.00114,0.005782,-0.008004,-0.001123,0.000866,0.003204,-0.004699,-0.000479

Nilotic:Nilotic_Pastoralist_KEN_Kakapel_900BP,-0.513342,0.05687,-0.010936,-0.00969,-0.007386,-0.013666,-0.00658,0.014769,0.075674,-0.113898,-0.032478,0.028924,-0.049207,-0.010046,0.015065,-0.020419,0.018645,-0.000507,0.022877,-0.027138,-0.002496,0.007172,-0.027238,-0.000241,0.004071

Bantu:West_Africa-Bantu_Farmer_COG_Kindoki_230BP,-0.6231815,0.058393,0.019422,0.018088,0.0007695,0.0133865,-0.007168,0.0170765,-0.035587,0.017495,0.0048715,-0.002248,-0.0031215,-0.0052985,-0.0021715,0.0088835,-0.0058675,-0.004941,-0.0042735,0.0078785,0.0061765,-0.0012985,0.002465,-0.0030125,0.0029935

Iranian_Plateau_IA:IA_Hasanlu_(Iranian_Plateau_Profile)_(n=8),0.094046375,0.11310475,-0.069437375,-0.031371375,-0.04758575,-0.003904375,0.002555625,-0.006201625,-0.034692375,-0.015922875,0.00397875,-0.000899125,0.002824625,-0.005522,0.00296875,0.014071375,-0.0016135,-0.0004275,-0.00020425,-0.008035125,0.002713875,-0.001669375,-0.000277375,-0.00234975,0.003353

Iranian_Plateau_IA:Iran_IA_Dinkha_Tepe_(Iranian_Plateau_Profile)_(n=4),0.09219675,0.11475475,-0.06675025,-0.03173475,-0.05224025,-0.001534,0.003055,-0.00530725,-0.0379905,-0.020456,0.0064955,-0.00280975,0.0001115,-0.00402525,0.00698975,0.0109055,-0.00345525,0.00066525,0.00521625,-0.005659,0.00028075,-0.005657,-0.00036975,0.00006025,0.00176625

Iranian_Plateau_LBA:_LBA_Dinkha_Tepe_(Iranian_Plateau_Profile)_(n=2),0.079676,0.1005375,-0.071464,-0.0124355,-0.059857,0.004741,0,-0.009692,-0.03978,-0.023326,0.0096425,-0.0008995,0.001338,-0.0119735,0.0059035,0.0162425,-0.0065195,-0.001964,0.009993,-0.006941,0.004305,-0.0045135,-0.002588,-0.0129535,0.008083

Iranian_Plateau_LBA:_LBA_Hasanlu_(Iranian_Plateau_Profile)_(n=1),0.084229,0.092413,-0.081081,0.002907,-0.069244,0.018407,0.003055,0.002308,-0.050313,-0.031891,0.005846,-0.001049,-0.004906,-0.005918,0.014794,0.014187,-0.010822,-0.000127,0.002514,-0.016758,-0.000624,-0.011005,0.006409,-0.006386,0.003473

Arabian:Syria_TellQarassa_Umayyad,0.060326,0.159438,-0.043746,-0.13017,-0.000615,-0.061635,-0.020681,-0.006,0.062584,0.010934,0.022247,-0.014537,0.0666,-0.00055,0.017508,0.025855,-0.032596,-0.015076,0.002011,0.029264,0.024956,-0.002844,-0.013064,-0.00241,-0.015807

Arabian:SYR_Tell_Qarassa_Early_Antiquity:syr005,0.055773,0 .151314,-0.045254,-0.12048,-0.005847,-0.058846,-0.014571,-0.007154,0.064016,0.010934,0.024358,-0.018733,0.061843,-0.000275,0.014522,0.017634,-0.032726,-0.011909,0.001131,0.032641,0.023334,0.015828,-0.009737,-0.000602,-0.011496

Arabian:SYR_Tell_Qarassa_Early_Antiquity:syr013,0.078538,0 .152329,-0.065619,-0.124679,-0.000615,-0.051316,-0.015746,-0.016845,0.067288,0.00328,0.012342,-0.039265,0.070317,0.00812,0.002714,0.020684,-0.041853,0.008868,0.002514,0.036643,0.017844,0.019 043,-0.001849,0.00976,-0.013891

Turkic:Turkic_(650-1200),0.065562,-0.1496892,0.019836400000000004,0.0034238,-0.0478856,-0.003793000000000001,0.0062510000000000005,0.0060458000000000005,-0.0153802,-0.0135948,-0.018772200000000003,-0.0035668,0.0026164,-0.0093034,0.010749,0.0019622,-0.010378600000000002,0.001875,0.0028910000000000003,-0.0008254000000000002,-0.0097578,-0.0014590000000000002,-0.0017256000000000003,-0.0026027999999999997,-0.0005750000000000002

Mesopotamia_LBA:_Middle_Assyrian_Nemrik_9_(n=1),0.087644,0.138112,-0.068259,-0.08398,-0.020311,-0.024542,0.002585,-0.001615,-0.015748,-0.000547,0.003897,-0.006145,0.012933,0.00523,-0.003122,-0.004906,-0.019297,0.011149,-0.001383,-0.004752,-0.000624,0.01286,-0.009983,-0.011206,0.002155

Phoenician:Lebanon_IA2.SG:SFI-55.SG__BC_770__Cov_36.54%,0.088782,0.161469,-0.052797,-0.098192,-0.012618,-0.035419,-0.008695,-0.005538,0.015953,0.008383,0.007632,-0.005245,0.018285,0.010184,-0.020222,0.00769,0.002999,-0.000633,0.004902,-0.006003,-0.006988,0.004822,-0.008627,0.001325,-0.000958

Phoenician:Lebanon_IA2.SG:SFI-56.SG__BC_770__Cov_52.19%,0.091058,0.149283,-0.057322,-0.101099,-0.012925,-0.044623,-0.012221,-0.000231,0.024338,0.004556,0.011042,-0.012589,0.029732,0.000963,-0.012486,0.021082,-0.006389,0.004181,0.002388,0.008629,-0.000749,0.00371,-0.010599,-0.001084,-0.001796

Phoenician:Lebanon_IA3_o1_1d.rel.SFI44.SG:SFI-43.SG__BC_537__Cov_39.29%,0.037562,0.149283,-0.053174,-0.112082,-0.001231,-0.044623,-0.011045,0.001615,0.047859,0.003827,0.008444,-0.014387,0.031813,0.000688,0.000136,0.00053,-0.002868,-0.000887,-0.004148,0.018384,0.016346,-0.000495,-0.001602,-0.000361,-0.001676

Phoenician:Lebanon_IA3.SG:SFI-42.SG__BC_465__Cov_39.68%,0.092197,0.14319,-0.044877,-0.081073,0.003077,-0.021196,-0.004935,-0.008077,0.006545,0.011116,0.006983,0.002997,0.0055,0.002064,-0.008279,0.005171,0.014212,0,0.006788,0.006503,0.010731,0.007666,-0.006409,-0.005784,0.005389

Phoenician:Lebanon_IA3.SG:SFI-34.SG__BC_435__Cov_81.83%,0.094473,0.15436,-0.043746,-0.086241,-0.003077,-0.034861,-0.00282,-0.012923,0.016362,0.010752,0.016239,-0.004196,0.009663,0.003991,-0.011129,0,0.003129,-0.00152,-0.002388,-0.000875,-0.001497,0.010016,-0.002342,0.001566,0

Phoenician:Lebanon_IA3.SG:SFI-35.SG__BC_435__Cov_29.42%,0.080814,0.147252,-0.050534,-0.090763,-0.011079,-0.034861,-0.00188,-0.008769,0.017998,0.013303,0.011692,0.001049,0.019921,0.003716,-0.002579,-0.005171,-0.005998,0.003041,0.008045,-0.002001,-0.003743,-0.001607,-0.003944,-0.001807,0.008023

Phoenician:Lebanon_IA3.SG:SFI-36.SG__BC_435__Cov_53.26%,0.086506,0.152329,-0.051288,-0.09367,-0.01508,-0.03514,-0.001175,-0.008307,0.008181,0.008747,0.007307,-0.001649,0.009068,0.002752,-0.018187,-0.006364,-0.013821,0.000127,0.007416,-0.003627,-0.003369,-0.000742,-0.002588,-0.004097,-0.005987

Phoenician:Lebanon_IA3.SG:SFI-39.SG__BC_435__Cov_50.85%,0.095611,0.158423,-0.044123,-0.095285,-0.010463,-0.034025,-0.00235,-0.015461,0.008385,0.016948,0.008119,-0.010041,0.010555,0.007156,-0.012486,-0.004508,-0.008605,-0.00076,0.009553,-0.002501,0.001996,0.003957,-0.001109,0.000964,-0.007065

Phoenician:Lebanon_IA3.SG:SFI-45.SG__BC_435__Cov_43.64%,0.088782,0.162485,-0.047517,-0.091732,-0.007694,-0.034861,-0.000705,-0.012923,0.01493,0.013121,0.00065,-0.005995,0.005054,0.001927,-0.013029,0.005701,0.006519,0.001774,0.003268,-0.004877,0.002745,0.000866,0.000493,0.011688,-0.005269

Phoenician:Lebanon_IA3.SG:SFI-47.SG__BC_435__Cov_64.88%,0.091058,0.150298,-0.053174,-0.08721,-0.019696,-0.035698,-0.00517,-0.007615,0.008795,0.012392,0.007957,-0.005545,0.017542,-0.003303,-0.008007,0.011535,0.002217,0.004181,-0.003142,0,0.003619,0.013478,-0.012325,-0.000482,-0.003832

Phoenician:Lebanon_IA3.SG:SFI-50.SG__BC_435__Cov_63.29%,0.087644,0.150298,-0.052797,-0.088502,-0.016003,-0.030678,-0.00188,-0.001154,0.010226,0.027153,-0.004872,-0.007493,0.00669,-0.003165,-0.004479,0.015115,0.019818,-0.000633,0.000628,0.008379,0.006239,0.008285,-0.000863,0.000843,-0.00479

Phoenician:Lebanon_IA3_o2.SG:SFI-44.SG__BC_435__Cov_80.19%,0.05122,0.149283,-0.044123,-0.095931,-0.001539,-0.034861,-0.010105,-0.001154,0.039473,0.009476,0.013316,-0.007343,0.026016,-0.00289,0.007329,-0.011668,-0.01369,-0.001267,-0.00729,-0.002501,0.011355,0.00507,-0.002342,-0.000361,0

Phoenician:Israel_IA:_Akhziv_Phoenician_IA_(n=11),0.081953,0.150129,-0.053520,-0.096981,-0.009848,-0.037580,-0.002879,-0.008846,0.013533,0.012635,0.010068,-0.010566,0.019128,0.002248,-0.005022,0.002596,-0.000663,0.002851,0.003687,0.003189,0.002111,0.002071,-0.001273,-0.000633,-0.002125

Egypt_Late_Period_Abusir-el_Meleq_(n=2),0.050082,0.146744,-0.042426,-0.1183805,-0.0020005,-0.049782,-0.015628,-0.004731,0.0474495,0.006196,0.0090125,-0.011465,0.029732,-0.005849,-0.0008145,-0.0020555,-0.0074315,-0.0019635,-0.0035195,0.0120055,0.005615,0.0016695,0.0036355,0.003916,-0.0005985

And as an additional note: the Phoenicians were a Canaanite population with some Anatolian admixture

u/PopularResponse127 — 2 hours ago

Is 23 and me a scam I got African Icelandic Amazonian indigenous

I feel like 23 and me is a weird thing. I got African admixtures and indigenous admixture. I come from a big Sicilian american family. My dad found his real parents he was lead to believe he was just Italian, lo and behold his paternal father was from Puerto Rico and his mother was Italian Ukrainian. My mom is 100% Sicilian her family passed through the Statue of Liberty. But yeah I’m just trying to figure out if it’s like wacky or not.

u/FrankenSketch — 3 hours ago

Map of Paleo-Balkan ancestry in Europe (Qpadm and G25)

Sourced from a Twitter account: https://x.com/m\_izanami\_/status/2034562180180279376?s=20

It’s unclear what samples were used to represent Paleo-Balkan. I asked Grok what Paleo-Balkan would be and it stated the following, phrasing it in terms of language groups:

Paleo-Balkan (also spelled Palaeo-Balkan) refers to a group of ancient Indo-European languages spoken in the Balkans and nearby regions before the large-scale arrivals of Greeks (in the south), Romans, and later Slavs. It is not a single language family with a common ancestor but a geographical grouping of related but distinct languages from antiquity (roughly from the Bronze Age through the early centuries AD).

The main Paleo-Balkan languages attested in ancient sources include:

**•	Dacian** (and closely related Getic/Moesian)

**•	Thracian**

**•	Illyrian** (and related varieties like Messapic)

**•	Paeonian**

**•	Phrygian**

**•	Ancient Greek** (the best-attested and longest-surviving)

Most of these languages are now extinct due to Hellenization, Romanization, and Slavic migrations. The only modern descendants are Greek and Albanian (which is believed to descend from an Illyrian or other Paleo-Balkan branch).”

u/NotBradPitt9 — 15 hours ago
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MyHeritage UPDATED v2.5 version VS AncestryDNA and 23andme. I feel like my Indigenous still very inflated but I’m not surprised. Latino Results

u/TraditionalPlenty3 — 16 hours ago

Family Tree DNA vs Ancestry DNA results

I don’t know which is more accurate but I think it’s interesting to see the differences

u/topaz_rose — 14 hours ago
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Thracian result on the Iron Age DNA Similarity Heatmap tool

Made with my own tool - I can heatmap your personal DNA for just 7 USD. Email: heatmap.requests@gmail.com or simply message me here. No raw data needed.

"Heatmaps" show how genetically similar an ethnicity is to the others placed on the map. The warmest the color, the closer the genetic profile is.

Disclaimer: This post has no intent to present itself as a scientific truth nor is it part or taken from any paper. The DNA Similarity Heatmap tool is for entertainment purpose and produced using Global 25 by Eurogenes, thus having their accuracy determined within Global25 limits and sample availability.

I don't post my customers' heatmaps.

Max distances: all = 0.10

u/heatmapper25 — 18 hours ago

What does this say about me/from what ancestral groups and stuff can these come from (Im from Tunisia and live in Tunisia)

u/SuperDuperSigmaUser — 23 hours ago
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