i know this shit is not related to enneagram but wanna pursue this guy and he typed himself sx5. but he keeps pushing me away, BUT I KNOW HIS ASS FEELS IT TOO. to other sx5s out there what do i do cause i really dont wanna force him to talk abt himself
ive seen alot of arguments about this. Some say it is possible since so8 is the literal countertype for e8 so it is natural that they dont dwell in the material world as much as the other 8s are, while the other counters that even if so8 is the counter type, it still doesnt deny that it still is e8 at the end of the day. i have no problem with so8 2L, but what are yalls take on this?
LOGIC:
Do you find that truth and understanding of systems in life are an important aspect that should be highly valued? How do you usually go about learning and forming an understanding of a concept?
-yes it is important, while different opinions exist and matter—for the world to properly function is to have a collective/objective truth. I start by thinking if this concept is actually useful or makes sense, then i will learn basically just the fundamentals of it and i try to gather more information as experience happens.
How easily do you find yourself changing opinions or viewpoints? What sorts of things can influence your views the most/least?
-Probably when i find the reason makes sense and it matches with my own morals then im afraid to quickly change my viewpoints or opinions. Things that influence my views the most is probably perception, how it makes me feel deep inside, and most importantly if it gives a sense of "oppression" against minorities. At the same time what influences my views the least is when its influenced by other peoples emotion.
Are you more likely to assume that you’re right or wrong about an issue? Is it important for you to always be right? How easy is it for you to admit it when you’re wrong?
-its not important to always be right but i have this sense in me that makes me feel like "im always right" because i dont usually say whats in my mind unless im sure about it. Its easy for me to admit im wrong especially over things that are not that serious, but if it is serious id feel a little aggressive.
How do you react when someone disagrees with you during a logical debate? How do you go about defending your beliefs, if at all? Do these types of situations make you doubt your views easily?
-im gonna feel really defensive so ill try to disprove them. When i defend it i dont back down unless i deem its now pointless or if i was actually proven wrong. These type of situations rarely make me doubt my views, but it does really make me feel some type of way.
How do you feel about debating logical chains and evidence? (Can discussions and debates help you sort your thoughts out, or are you more likely to see them as unnecessary? Do you find debates more stressful or fun?)
-It depends on the topic whether its fun or not. But i dont find it fun most of the time, i find debates as a way of making a point, not something silly.
Do you feel the need to explain your own logical understanding to others? Do you feel the need to have others explain their understandings to you?
-If questioned yes. Yes if i find it questionable.
VOLITION:
Do you consider yourself to be a naturally motivated person? What helps motivate you? Do you need others to motivate you and/or provide incentives for you to work?
Are you someone who has a clear sense of direction and purpose? Is this something that matters to you? What do you gain a sense of meaning from?
-Naturally yes, what helps motivate me is my goals. I dont need others to motivate me unless i ask for it, if not asked for i generally feel pissed off about it especially if its worded in a condescending way. Im someone who knows who i am, what im gonna do and what i wanna do, i have purpose in life and thats fixed, so yes. It matters to me, if i lose my sense of self and direction it would probably make me feel less human in a big scale. I gain a sense of meaning from myself
How is your relationship with goals? Do you often share them with others (or help others with their goals)? Are you self-assured in what you set out to do, or are you more indecisive and/or easily persuaded by what others around you want?
-I do share them with others. I dont usually want to interfere with other peoples goal unless theyre someone close and is actively seeking help (i wouldnt necessarily interfere, more of like just giving a word of advice) since its their own life and i have no business with that. I dont question what i wanna do and what i set out to, if im gonna do something, want something, i will do anything to reach that specific goal
Are you bothered by failures and setbacks? How do you deal with them when they come up?
-Nope, ofcourse it gives some frustration, but as quickly as it comes as quick as it goes. I believe i can always come back up, and i will. I deal with them by overcoming it, thats literally it, you cant just avoid or circle around them
Are you someone who easily competes for things you truly desire? How do you feel about others telling you what to do, or trying to insert their desires into yours?
-Yes. It depends, if on a normal scale and it doesnt really mean anything i will do what they say, however if its something i really feel off about, i dont like, or if its from someone i dont like, i wont follow it no matter what unless its for something thats crucial to me.
How do you tend to act when you are part of a team? Are you more of a leader or a follower (or neither)? Do you have an easy time working cooperatively with others?
-I usually find myself leading a team. How easy it is to cooperate with others depends on who i am working with. most of the time it is hard for me, some people just cant follow, or asks too many questions and needs a guide in everything, id appreciate if more if people have some sense of initiative. However other than that, i have absolutely no problem with cooperating.
Do you consider yourself to be someone with a firm sense of identity? How do you feel when other people assert their ideas about who you are?
-yes. i feel generally degraded, disrespected and insulted when people imply a view of me thats literally NOT ME
PHYSICS:
How important are factors such as clothing, hygiene, and appearance to your everyday life? Do you feel confident in your body and tastes? Are you often swayed by trends and the opinions of others in terms of fashion and aesthetics?
-Important ofcourse, especially hygiene. With appearance i guess not really since im comfortable with myself no matter. I feel confident though especially on my appearance, its something i dont brag about, but its something i know. I appreciate trends and others opinions in fashion and aesthetics but i wouldnt go out on my way to change what im already comfortable in just for such if i dont find it necessary or appealing even if its a raging hype
How do you handle your senses being disturbed? Are you sensitive to problems like discomfort, sickness, and pain? (Or are you unaware/able to push past them/etc..)
-Them being disturbed is kinda like an annoyance to me but id get used to it, but definitely not for a long time. Im very well in tuned with my health, if im doing something important though i can easily push them aside and deal with them later, but other than that i tend to fix it immediately but not in a "panick" or "worry" way
How is your relationship with physical activity? Are you someone who naturally desires a more comfortable and inert lifestyle, or do you have a hard time staying still? Do you find external encouragement and incentives for taking care of your body useful?
-I am okay with physical activities and dont really struggle with them but i definitely do prefer a more comfortable and put lifestyle, nor i dont really have a hard time staying still unless im really bored and is looking for something to do. I do find advices on taking care of my body useful and i tend to try keep them in mind when convenient
Do you enjoy pushing yourself to try new foods, activities, or styles? How picky are you regarding these things, and what helps you decide what you want to explore?
-When i want to yes. Im not a picky person but i know what makes me comfortable and uncomfortable and thats enough to know whether i would like it or not. What helps me decide what i want to explore is just if i feel like "oh wait this is goodd" or "this looks interesting, let me try"
How is your relationship with your physical environment? Are you usually attuned to your surroundings? Is being organized something that matters to you and/or comes naturally? How do you feel when another person enters your space and tries to help you with it? (e.g. by cleaning)
-Yes i am usually attuned to my shrrounding, being organised for me is just basically knowing where everything's put or where they should be, it doesnt have to be perfect and neat. I usually prefer cleaning by myself but i wouldnt mind some help
How do you handle your finances and possessions? Is this an area of ease in your life, or do you find yourself becoming overly reckless or stingy? Do you consider yourself to be a materialistic person?
How do you react to criticism or advice regarding how you handle any of the above things?
-its pretty easy for me to handle these actually. I would be lying to myself if i said im not materialistic, but i control them really well. Im pretty open about them and i would apply the advices if i actually do need it
EMOTIONS:
Does self-expression come naturally to you? What emotions do you find easier or harder to express? What goals do you have when dealing with your levels of emotional expression, if any?
-idk. The easiest emotions for me to display is totally anger and joy, the others are kinda just there. The goals i have when dealing with levels of emotional expression is just to get it done, i dont usually dwell on them.
Are you someone who is in touch with their inner emotional world? Are you good at understanding how you feel about something and why? Do you find others’ insight into how you are/should be feeling beneficial?
-50/50 i guess? I dont do a good job when it comes to analysing why i feel a certain way to something (unless its injustice). I DONT think anybody should tell you what to feel.
How good are you at balancing your focus between your own emotions and the emotions of others? Are you more naturally attuned to others’ feelings and reactions, or to your own?
-Im more naturally attuned to other peoples emotions.
How easily caught up on specific feelings do you become? Do you value being able to detach yourself from your emotions? (And is this something you’re good at?)
-I get easily caught up on anger. I dont reallt value it but i can detach from them voluntarily, i do think emotions are still important but that’s not applicable for me
How do you normally react when someone shares their emotions with you? Do you enjoy handling situations like these?
-i feel awkward but i try to accommodate (if its someone im close with, i just leave when theyre not) I wouldnt say i enjoy the actual process, in fact i find it kind of draining
(im not sure if it was stated i should give credit when answering the questionnaire cuz i didnt read all of it, but credits to whoever made this if it is required)