First of all sorry for asking so many questions lately, I can't feel calm unless I'm 100% sure.

I've been actively struggling to find out if I'm a sp6 or sx6. I am incredibly two faced and thus I genuinely relate to both (I relate much more to sx6 though). The problem arises more in how it correlates with my typology, even if I relate more to sx6, it apparently doesn't fit with the other systems I'm typed in. It's fine if you look at the systems separately but it becomes a problem once you combine all of them as it looks uncanny. If I were to be Spoon the other hand, it would look just fine.

I just need to know if it's worth the trouble having sx6 noted as my core compared to sp6. I'm sure that I have sx/sp or sp/sx stacking and I'm also sure that I'm a 6. Thanks in advance. In case you need my other typology, I’m an ISFJ ESI.

not a type me post!!! i’ve been struggling with being able to tell whether i am a 4 or 9. ever since i’ve been into enneagram, no matter how much i’ve mistyped i’ve always gone back to 4, but i struggle with telling my type so much everyone tells me to consider 9. i fit literally every enneagram. mind you i’m only a teenage girl so i could easily mistype, but i’ve matured faster than most and had a stable personality my whole life, so thats why i attempt to type myself now, just for fun.

so, i feel emotions in a really intense way - especially emptiness and anger. when i get angry, i get really angry. when i feel empty or bored i resort to either over-indulgence or kind of like a sad-anger. basically anger but it feels more superficial because its sadness channeled into anger, i’m like this a lot. i also overanalyse and overthink my inner world, like my identity and personality a lot. i always rethink over things that ‘identify me’, like a favourite character and tv show, and i want these things known. this is almost like a hobby, its what i do in my free time. i’m kind of a maladaptive day dreamer. also sometimes get the feeling that I just don’t know who i am. i don’t know how to describe myself when someone asks (even though i am rn LOL). i think i cling to other people personalities and identities. like i tend to watch a show and really like a character’s personality and see myself in them really deeply, and i think i’m just like them. and i will tell this to people, in a jokey way, and be like ‘oh my gosh i’m exactly like this character!’ almost to the point where i could get upset or feel empty when i dont share the same typology as them, because then i have nothing to truly cling onto. these thoughts power my daydreaming.

when i think about my life, there are a few things i truly want. one of them is just living a good and nice life which i like. ending up with the person i’m in love with, even though its outlandish since they hate me. or i just want romance and want someone who i love to love me, and merge with them and become like a whole. i want to be understood, i crave for a romantic partner to understand me. love me for who i am, and i dont have to mask around them like i do with everyone else. thats my dream.

another thing is that i just want peace. not even objectively peace, but moreso what is peaceful for me and what i will be comfortable with. i idealise a life where my family will accept me for who i am and my religion and my personality, with no judgement or conflict. i don’t like conflict. i dont like when someone is angry at me or hates me, it makes me feel upset. usually it actually scares me. for example, i converted to a religion most of my family doesn’t accept, and fear telling them about it this for the fact they wont accept me and constantly cause conflict with me. i want us to all live happily despite our differences and individuality. but i envy too, A LOT.

i enjoy staying at home, doing my hobbies. this is mainly either doing art; painting, editing, writing; anything i can channel my emotions in, in a lovely way and creative way. also like i said earlier daydreaming and fantasizing are also a huge part of my life. i feel incomplete without it. i feel like my reality is so bad and messed up that i have to escape it, and i daydream extreme scenarios that will never happen. its like an addiction. i feel like i’ll never be truly happy with reality. i know i will never get what i want. so i escape into my imagination. i fantasise about a better life and specifically about one true love. this boy who i love so much. we will never, realistically, be together though. i want a rescuer who will save me, someone who i can actually be emotionally vulnerable with. someone who actually loves me like ive never been loved before and i can cry and vent to without judgement. just a peaceful life. i have a fear of abandonment and am quite dependent. i wish i was less angry than i really am.

i feel different from everyone else, i’ve always been treated like an outcast. i have, and still constantly get bullied at school for being different. this is mainly because im too quiet and a bit ditsy, stuck in my head and withdrawn. i’m also neurodivergent and have audhd & anxiety disorder, mainly social anxiety. i’m not sure whether my tendency to avoid conflict comes from my anxiety, or from my actual personality. like my neurosis or my anxiety disorder? i often argue and have conflict with my mother as she is the only one close to me, so the only one i can take it out on. i can be verbally aggressive and physically aggressive. however when at school or work, like is said i’m bullied for being too quiet and withdrawn. theres been maybe 1 or 2 times at work where i’ve openly expressed anger, and these were small outbursts at specific people for being unjust. around other family i’m the same as at school and work. i’m just different around my mother. i can be mean to my closer friends though, by accident when i get really pissed off..

and laziness, that’s another thing. i’m very lazy, often procrastinating and doing minimal effort my mother often criticises me for this. i slack in school because of this. idk if its just procrastination or ACTUAL laziness. i put off everything. for example i love my hobbies, but i hate it at the same time. i often procrastinate doing things i like and make myself more bored with fantasy.

yeahIDK. i still feel like i resonate more with type 4 but mainly because i feel too aggressive to be a 9. and i think i just want to cling to the identity of 4. i even considered 6 but i don’t know. i just appreciate advice pls, or if this doesn’t even sound like either suggest another type! i posted this in r/enneagram too but its awaiting approval

title. i'm having a hard time finding a definitve answer for this, no one agrees on wether it's possible or not. if you do have an answer please tell me why you think that way

Note on Terminology: This analysis on Google Docs below utilizes specific terminology from clinical psychiatry, genetics, and statistical modeling (e.g., endophenotypes, Bayesian inference, allostasis). These terms are employed to move the discourse beyond aesthetic archetypes into a more rigorous, functionalist framework. Readers are encouraged to view these not as jargon, but as the metabolic components of the system being described.

That's all and enjoy.

I have seen lots of people say that they don't believe SEI and Sp9 can work together, which Is surprising to me. I personally type that way, and I've seen others type as such. There are also many characters who I believe to be sei sp9, such as:

Winnie The Pooh

Shaggy (Scooby Doo)

Philip J Fry (Futurama)

Kim Ki-taek (Parasite)

The Dude (The Big Lebowski)

Patrick Star (Spongebob)

Kevin Malone (The Office)

AJ Soprano (The Sopranos)

Neil Sutherland (The Inbetweeners)

Paul Cho (Beef)

if the core fixation is no longer applicable what’s left of the enneagram

Can anyone tell if these are relevant? I subtyped this myself.

MBTI - INTP
‎Enneagram - 5w6(4)
‎Tri-fix/type - 531
‎Subtypes - so1so(p)3so5
‎Instinctual Variant - so>sp>sx
‎Psychophy - FLVE⁴⁴²¹
‎Big Five//SLOAN - RLUAI ‎Temperament - phlegmatic / melancholic

The general consensus in the typology community is that FELV is the archetype for SX9, but this cannot be true. It makes no sense, and is derived from a misunderstanding of both the Sexual 9 (in Naranjo) and Psychosophy. 

The one that stands out to me most as glaringly wrong is the Second Emotion. SX9 is repeatedly described as being ashamed to communicate its emotions and taking on the feelings of another instead of thinking of its own. While the second may sound similar to 2E due to its incredible empathy that borders on the merging of a SX9, it is different—the 2E still thinks of their own emotions, recognizes them, and can easily discuss them. SX9 can do nothing of the sort.

 I think the reason for people thinking SX9 is 2E is that it is described as the emotional of the Gut Triad, which doesn’t say much since there’s not much competition. Another reasoning I can imagine is that 2E can downplay its own emotions to harmonize with another, but this doesn’t really make it sit right with me. 2E maintains emotional awareness and comfort in its feelings, but SX9 does not feel this way. The SX9 is described as one to be unable to place its feelings, causing distress deep down; this contradicts 2E’s relationship with its emotions.

I honestly have an issue with E9 (excluding SP since I have never seen anyone claiming SP9 can be 2E) having 2E as its archetype in general. E9 is one to mute their emotions, while the 2E revels in exploration of them. 

SX9 in particular is much more reminiscent of the Third Emotion. 3E is the type that is uncomfortable with discussions about emotions. They don’t know how to describe them, and they kind of don’t want to. The SX9 has known from a very young age that if it talks about what it wants or what it feels, it will cause their mother distress and make her upset. As a result, it does not talk about its emotions, preferring to forget about it and lose itself in the other’s. Even if it is expressions of affection, the SX9 feels a kind of shame and fear when forced to express that, due to being hurt or ignored when expressing it in the past. 3E overall fits SX9 much cleaner than 2E does. Of course, it is all pseudoscience, so if you feel that you must be 2E and SX9, then good for you! I’m willing to discuss other opinions; I also disagree with SX9 only being 3L and 4V, which I may post about another time!

I couldnt understand their differences, anyone know the key differences between these two?

Especially in enneagram.

I saw a decent amount of people disliking their own type or just simply wanting to be another. In most systems your type can't be changed just grown. So, if you could change the way you perceive information, world, value attitudes and etc. What type would you choose?

Doesn't matter if it contradicts or not.

I'd love to be either ESTP or ENFJ. Just for Se and Ni perceiving functions.

Idk about enneagram though, maybe e8 or e1. And I'd love to be sp dom or sp secondary.

asking because i saw two people debating this and i don't feel like i know enough about enneagram to properly understand

i used my own typing as an example, because making one up felt kind of dangerous (because im VERY tired as of typing this)

if im sx/so, 926, am i sx9 sx2 sx6?

am i sx9 so2 sp6? (<- i saw someone say theres no way its this one, i kind of agree)

is it up to personal opinion, like, sx/so 926 -> so9 sx2 so6?

when i tried to research about this i just saw people dismissing it as up for interpretation ..? yet i see a lot of people who type themselves different ways

on a similar topic, i see people describing their tritype as something like:

9w1, 2w3, 6w5

^ is this correct to say? (again, just putting an example)

i hope this makes sense...