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Cleaver is dead item now?
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Cleaver is dead item now?

Seen a lot of people say it's a dead item for a lot of melee bruisers. This is obviously because Smolder (ADC) is abusing the item with DFT.

u/Niko9053 — 19 hours ago
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My toplane tier list, but it's how much I enjoy playing against each one (spacing, trading, dodging)

u/GnarMainsThrowaway — 1 day ago

Today I learned some top laners hate Shen. What makes him infuriating to play against?

I've always regarded Shen as a fair champion. He is very strong early, falls off because of no combat ult, has telegraphed abilities and counter play. I've always had this opinion about the champion, whether I played as, with or against him, so I don't see how there are people hating him, when there are far more infuriating champions to play against in the same lane.

Obviously, people complain about everything that isn't their main, so I'm not surprised on that. Also, another factor would be his high winrate, and so there are people trying to abuse a "high winrate" champion without caring about the pick themselves, which I also despise as I believe playing what you like will always be the best solution, but I digress.

What's infuriating about an early game champion that can assist his allies with a 3 min cooldown tp and that becomes a supporter in late? I've seen much more bullshit in the same lane where Shen is played, that he seems pretty tame in comparison.

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u/Kel057 — 1 day ago

why isn't urgot popular ?

He is very strong good early mid and scales well into late. He isn't super hard to pilot aswell. I know he isn't flashy nor super handsome noxian general like darius yet I think he deserves a better pickrate. I rarely see urgots in my games why is that ?

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u/Unfair-Fuel1097 — 2 hours ago

who has the easiest time againts yorick

I can't win againts this champion in lane no matter what I play. I can't play irelia so that's out of option. My go to againts yorick was almost nasus but I came to realize better yorick players don't even let me engage as nasus. They cage when I wither etc etc

One single E does half my hp. After lv 6 I can't even touch him.

Any advice

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u/Unfair-Fuel1097 — 8 hours ago
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Gwen top lane matchup tierlist 100000% ACCURATE (GM top gwen player)

Tier list is about being accurate:

  • Players playing their champ at a high level, knowing the matchups (MU), builds, and secret jutsu techniques of their champ.
  • Based on lane, not the overall game.
  • Yes, you beat Yasuo! even level 1!!
  • Winning lane with gwen = being able to scale
  • Shared data with top Gwen players to elevate the accuracy.

I stream daily, showcase, and brutally MOG the MUs at https://www.twitch.tv/yesirunwithscissors

I'll answer any questions.

I'll now talk about 2 MUs:

1. Jax:
I've played against many GM/Chall Jax players (they take Lethal Tempo + Ignite). You definitely have a chance to win (lose), but you have to play like prime Faker, outplay them, and play perfectly in every aspect. One micro mistake? They survive with 1 HP, or you get dove.

2. Sion:
Good Sion (and Singed) players don't use the Bausen Law anymore in big 2026. They start W, take prio, then go proxy and cheat the laning phase. They then proceed to invade your jungle or roam with R, and the game isn't really in your hands anymore. The MU is about making good macro choices. #iQdiff

>I heard something. "You are bad!" They said it, not me.

u/iRunWithScissors69 — 2 days ago

Why does Riot consistently allow ranged champions to be the best meta picks in Toplane?

I keep watching Toplane tier lists for each patch, high elo pickrates, and winrates, and it's always the same or even worse: Jayce, Rumble, Vayne, Varus and now Anivia... I didn't mention the non mustache man ones like Gnar, Aurora, Teemo, and Cassiopeia (btw, the only reason people don't complain about them is because they haven't faced good ones).

The worst part is that this is nothing new. Rumble and Jayce have been the best toplaners in the game for so long that you just have to accept that riot wants this to be the toplane meta. I'm just pointing out the fact that riot actively wants the lane to be filled with toxic, uninteractive ranged bullies and then wonders why it's the least played role the higher you go up the ladder. I don't think we realized that ranged toplaners being the best is what Riot WANTS, and it sucks. I mean, 6 out of 15 of the most picked toplaners are ranged, and the 3 most picked ones in the highest level of play are ranged and it has been like this for a very long time

https://preview.redd.it/5jmd841pdx0h1.png?width=1349&format=png&auto=webp&s=51d0929a74e464cd8ce0bfef1de3a809164537ab

https://preview.redd.it/f15sc72qdx0h1.png?width=1080&format=png&auto=webp&s=e1d7774f330c004c929cd765aa2f4f1c977f5b13

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u/Embarrassed_Gift4054 — 8 hours ago
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I just found THE garen in silver

how does this guy have that much mastery yet still be in silver?

u/Ancient_Ad7583 — 3 days ago
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How to beat adc‘s in to top lane

aery rune + bramble vest (rune will proc on every auto u take)

second wind + doran’s shield (for healing)

credit to a skillcaped short i saw on YouTube lol

u/Vincent_Darcas — 2 days ago

scaling champ

champs that scale well except kayle in top, suggestions pls i am bronze 1 newbie looking to add another champ in my pool as i play kayle mostly

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u/Griffin_serpent — 1 day ago

with the surge of ranged top, why dont we go assasins?

the struggle of marksmans and mages are these mobile assasins: Im not saying to blind pick Fizz top, if you get a sion or a tryndamere your fked, but if you get last pick is it valid to go assasin vs vayne/quinn/anivia varus ect

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u/Resident_Panic_9840 — 1 day ago

Tank Top Laner

as tank top laner with not so good wave clear and turret push (poppy, ornn). do i drop sidewave and join fight more?

at low elo people always fight for nothing. even if i win lane, i tend to lose game as tank toplaner that cant push tower hard.

for example when enemy shows on map with my team close assuming they will fight. but the side wave is bad, do i go side or hover to help fight?

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u/Expert-Ad153 — 3 hours ago

Why is Gangplank manaless?

Level 1-3 he can spam Q and DFT off cooldown every single time he wants. 3-6 he runs out of mana ONLY if he tries to spam Q to death, but it wont be a problem if he pokes with it. That alone shouldnt be possible.

Essense Reaver is cheaper than 99% of any other toplaner first item and it causes GP to have infinite mana. It doesnt make any sense. He spams QQQQQ until one of them crits for 400 damage + burn. If you are a champion who needs to break a barrel in order to engage, he just does not care and can kill you anyway with AA and Qs.

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u/mmjyn — 3 days ago
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Free Coaching (Toplane / All Roles) – 350 LP Master, Top 2 Urgot EU

Hey, I’m currently around ~350 LP Master on EUW and mainly a Toplaner (Top 2 Urgot EU, Top 4 Ornn EUW), but I can coach every role.

I’ve been helping a few people recently and I actually enjoy coaching a lot, so I’m offering 1 free session right now for anyone who wants to improve.

What we’ll do:

- live game review or you play while I watch

- I point out your main mistakes

- simple + clear things you can fix immediately

No overcomplicated stuff, just what actually helps you win more.

After the session you should have a clear idea of:

- what you’re doing wrong

- what to focus on in your next games

If you’re interested just comment or DM me:

- your rank

- role

- what you struggle with

I’ll pick a few people 👍

Some quick feedback from people I coached already:

- “helped me understand what I’m doing wrong instantly”

- “actually useful, not just generic advice”

- “climbed after fixing the things he pointed out”

DSC is „monkeydluffy17“

u/aeon_discipline — 1 day ago
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Champ pool matchups

What y'all think about my matchups, some of these i have never played (varus vs jayce, gnar vs vayne, ornn vs varus, ecc.) should i change some of them?

u/Nerecs — 1 day ago

Need a new backup champion

Hi I am now an Urgot main and absolutely love it! The problem is my backup top is yorick and since yorick counters Urgot terribly I keep banning my own second… is there a champ I can learn that either crushes yorick or that can counter my other bad matchups if want to play yorick into? Beats Olaf, illowi, ksante, sometimes ornn. Occasionally I do Naafiri top when needed but would rather not

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u/Winter-Associate5666 — 9 hours ago