u/Kel057

Today I learned some top laners hate Shen. What makes him infuriating to play against?

I've always regarded Shen as a fair champion. He is very strong early, falls off because of no combat ult, has telegraphed abilities and counter play. I've always had this opinion about the champion, whether I played as, with or against him, so I don't see how there are people hating him, when there are far more infuriating champions to play against in the same lane.

Obviously, people complain about everything that isn't their main, so I'm not surprised on that. Also, another factor would be his high winrate, and so there are people trying to abuse a "high winrate" champion without caring about the pick themselves, which I also despise as I believe playing what you like will always be the best solution, but I digress.

What's infuriating about an early game champion that can assist his allies with a 3 min cooldown tp and that becomes a supporter in late? I've seen much more bullshit in the same lane where Shen is played, that he seems pretty tame in comparison.

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u/Kel057 — 1 day ago

As the title says, I've encountered a 5-stack of lv 30 accounts that just stomped us and ended the game by opening bot in 9 minutes. I've done my research and I discovered that these are bot-levelled accounts that are doing the required 10 normal games to be ranked approved and then be selled.

They would always pick the same type of comp, snowballer bot and top, someone who can demolish towers like ziggs mid, and then a diver like jarvan to force fights. It's a very strong comp early so that they can end games as fast as possible. Their bot lane would score a double kill at the start of the game, and after all the team is level 3/4, they would just group as 5 in bot and perma-kill the botlaners, taking the towers until they reached the nexus. To make things easier, the toplaner would also rush hullbreaker.

The reason I'm posting this here is because I want to ask a question about the strategic side of this, how would you counter such a strategy? Do you need to have the better comp and fight them? Do you need to do the same thing in the opposite side of the map and hope to win the race? And if there is no counter-play, why isn't this more common in proplay or soloQ?

I'm just curious, because I've been thinking about this for awhile and I'm not finding a solution to this.

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u/Kel057 — 11 days ago