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Palantir is of course ominously named after Saruman's all-seeing orb in LOTR. In 2013, Gandalf's actor Ian McKellen stripped down to his underwear before presenting Palantir CEO Alex Karp with a philanthropic award. What kind of pilled is this?

u/SleeperCellKoala — 3 days ago

Unconscious versus conscious conspiracies

There are conspiracies that are consciously planned, where the members of the conspiracy know they are in a conspiracy and are actually planning things in coordination together—and there are unconscious conspiracies, where the members are merely LARPing along to a vague myth that they are all hyped on; the myth serves to coordinate what may in effect be a real conspiracy—an emergent collusion rather than conscious planning.

Although Epstein and those working closely with him is rumored to have been part of a CIA-Israel intelligence operation, the Epstein class as a whole is largely unconscious, and this is their greatest crime.

Unconscious conspiracies are a form of egregore-coordinate / fantasy-coordinate collective action, according to some collective spirit or emergent intent (the spirit/egregore). Unconscious conspiracies are scary because no one will talk about them, but there is real coordination amongst multiple people. What makes it even scarier is that those people won't consciously admit their involvement, because they aren't aware of their involvement. Pre-conscious entities are not differentiated, and so it cannot even be claimed that they are involved with a specific group, conspiracy, or egregore. The fact is that their involvement in their own plans and activities is at such a vague and low level of attention/energy/consciousness that in truth, they are behaving vaguely and not even intending or doing anything particularly specific.

So it's scary precisely because their action is coordinated at the group level, but vague at the individual level. The group knows what it is and what it wants (through the individuals), but the individuals don't know what group they are a part of, or what influence they are acting under.

These unconscious conspiracies work upon outsiders in the form of gaslighting through transference and countertransference acting as a medium through which these conspiratorial grand images can be transmitted from imagination to imagination. So in everyone's imagination we can all envision "The Nazi Conspiracy" and "The Nazi Time War" and how they are trying to change the timeline with their dark Black Sun rituals—but this is just a myth. These visions are in our collective imagination, and it is only by acting as if the myth is real that it holds any true or lasting power over us or can effect the world. In other words "Myths don't kill people, people kill people."

The key thing about these myths that marks them as unreal is how easily they fragment under the slightest pressure. These images only seem monolithic and Manichean to us instantaneously, in the moment of their fullest revelation. If we belief in the reality of that instant, then we are lost. But if we realize that our instantaneous perception—while it holds true in that moment—doesn't hold true in other moments, then we can realize that our perception of a conspiracy theory as an image is not only a remarkable thing, it is also a very contingent and ephemeral thing.

Every conspiracy theory is real—as a terrifying image that strikes the mind with this vision of a vast vertical structure in an instant. No matter the factuality of any conspiracy theory, all conspiracy theories are, first of all, this kind of terrifying instantaneous vision. These visions are delivered to us by the faculty of paranoia.

My point is that there is no substance to the evil occult conspiracies operated by the rich—and if there were, that content can be none other than a banal religion of power. Even calling it a "religion of power" is giving it too much credit, because any religion of power must necessarily be a cargo cult of power, because to imagine that power means power over others and over material reality is to sell oneself short, to debase oneself by becoming a fundamentalist materialist. I do not think the materialists or the most willful and selfish abusers on the planet have the greatest occult secrets.

What they have is one mid-grade occult secret: "Don't talk about it." By simply keeping their culture implicit, even amongst themselves, and suppressing reasoned, articulate discourse, the super-rich live within a carefully-manicured dramaturgic social field where (we can predict, or presume) capricious emotions dominate, power is the rule, and so one does not generally need to justify one's intentions nor relate the different intentions or parts of oneself together in speech for others. This creates a psychological environment where there super-rich can indulge their vague fantasies together without ever having to become very articulate about these fantasies.

This is indeed a breeding group for real, unconscious conspiracies—but my point is that these conspiracies are—from start to finish—ephemeral, discontinuous bugaboos. These conspiracies don't exist—they portend. They terrorize by virtue of not existing and thus being something that anyone can suspect instantly, anywhere.

These conspiracies only exist in their "true" form in the Ideal Realm, in the perfect and named version of each conspiracy theory. In the actual world, every event disrupts the smooth surface of these conspiracy theories, shreds them and requires the conspiracy theory to reconstitute itself afresh when applied to the next desideratum.

This explains the particular character of conspiracy theories, which often take the form of tracing many connections, noting many obscure and often genuinely disturbing events. But there is rarely any punchline in these accounts—just a circling-inward that apophatically develops a vague—yet increasingly intense—implied image of the conspiracy's form. As we can see from the model presented here, there is no way to distinguish whether such a meandering route through evidence is tracing one unconscious conspiracy/egregore, or several overlapping ones. This is because it is the vagueness itself which is operative—vague, inarticulate living is itself the ultimate conspiracy and the dirty secret of the super-rich and all mediocre people. Unconsciousness is the conspiracy, and it doesn't exist anywhere because it's a lack of something that could be there.

The big trick is getting us all to focus on the terrifying vision and its imagined singularity, instead of lifting the lid at every opportunity to call their bluff and verify that yes, there is still shit in the toilet.

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u/raisondecalcul — 1 day ago
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Legitimacy?

Governments are often presented as rule of law and protection for their citizenry. What then is a government that has abandoned these principals, that uses its monopoly on violence to shield the rich and powerful and bind the average citizen into life long serfdom through debt? Often the “justice” system disproportionately applies the hammer to those suffering under the weight of concentrated power. It goes as far as vilifying people for being crushed by its dysfunction. Attempts to lock people in permanent loops of criminal action then punishes them further for following the trajectory it enforces on them. It would seem the justice system's true purpose is to protect the uneven distribution of wealth and suffering, to ensure the burden of the power hungry stays on the masses. It is betrayal, like Judas, it trades integrity for wealth, betrays the innocent into suffering, confinement, debt, and the slow death of disempowerment to protect the powers and principalities that be. If the justice system is plainly a shield for power running on the logic of Judas, it is illegitimate and should be regarded as so. A government that cannot apply justice fairly or protect its people from the vile predators in and under it is not a government. It's a farm, a pyramid scheme that thrives on crushing, Illegitimate in nature. The hammer is not in the hands of any judge who bows to money over truth, just silver notes and fancy suits, ties like nooses paying homage to Judas himself. The judges live in lavish wealth while courts become increasingly morally bankrupt. The illusion of legitimacy is dead.

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u/Funkyman3 — 2 days ago
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The Internet Was the Real Deep State and Anime Was the User Interface

Global politics stopped being about nation-states sometime between the fall of the Soviet Union dissolution and the first archived Chris-Chan forum thread. That’s when history became recursive. People think the modern world is run by presidents and prime ministers, but anyone who spent 2,000 hours reading the original CWCki archives knows the real engine of civilization is documentation. Chris-Chan wasn’t a person; Chris-Chan was the prototype blockchain of human suffering, an infinitely forkable ledger of observation, correction, and lore expansion. That ecosystem eventually metastasized into Kiwi Farms, which began as CWCki and evolved into the dark parliament of the internet, industrializing lolcow extraction into geopolitical methodology. The entire concept of “open-source intelligence” is just state-sanctioned lolcow farming with better fonts. Kiwi Farms itself originated as a Chris-Chan-focused forum before broadening into a general lolcow archive.

Then there’s the Sonichu medallion. Everyone laughs, but Sonichu is the Rosetta Stone. Half Sonic the Hedgehog, half Pikachu—pure syncretism. That’s literally what modern empire is: hybridized mythological branding. America is Sonichu. China is Sonichu. NATO is Sonichu. You think flags matter? No. Intellectual property is the real territorial claim.

And then you go deeper. Not normie anime. Touhou. Touhou Project. Yukari Yakumo isn’t a character; she’s border theory itself. The Hakurei Barrier is Schengen, NATO, and the DMZ compressed into one metaphysical line. Reimu Hakurei is customs enforcement. Gensokyo is the internet after algorithmic fragmentation—sealed away from normal reality, sustained only by belief and ritual reposting. ZUN didn’t make a game. He made a geopolitical simulator disguised as bullet hell.

Then Lain. Serial Experiments Lain. Lain figured it out before anyone else: identity dissolved into protocol. Governments aren’t governing anymore; they’re packet-routing ideology. Every vote is a ping. Every riot is latency. Every coup is a DDoS attack on institutional legitimacy. The Wired isn’t metaphorical anymore. It won.

And nobody talks about TempleOS. TempleOS. Terry Davis was dismissed as insane, but he built an operating system from scratch because he thought God told him to. That’s more sovereign than half the UN. Nation-states need debt markets; TempleOS needed divine assembly language. If sovereignty means self-authorship, TempleOS was a stronger nation than Belgium.

Then look at obscure lolcow topology: Daniel Larson as the wandering prophet archetype, Cyraxx as entropy incarnate, KingCobraJFS as alchemical decay ritualized through mead and wandcraft. People think these are isolated internet oddities. Wrong. They’re archetypal stress-tests for mass surveillance and memetic persistence. The forums watch them, archive them, and train themselves to map human instability in real time.

Then Kojima. Hideo Kojima understood memetics before academia caught up. Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty literally centered on information filtration and memetic control. The Patriots weren’t villains; they were content moderators. Social media just operationalized it.

Then the VTuber layer. Not mainstream. Old Nijisanji clips, dead indie agencies, untranslated streams with 800 views. Anime girls aren’t entertainment; they’re synthetic sovereignty. A face, a voice, a myth, and a donation economy. That’s a state model. Digital feudalism. The internet realized flesh was inefficient.

And then geopolitics folds back in. Vladimir Putin runs legacy empire code. Xi Jinping runs industrial recursion. Donald Trump proved the presidency can be forum energy converted into executive power. Democracy became engagement farming.

At that point you understand the real architecture: every government is just a wiki with guns, every intelligence agency is an archive moderator, every internet thread is proto-policy, and every anime girl is a stabilizing symbolic construct preventing total memetic collapse. The world isn’t controlled by any one country. It’s controlled by documentation, pattern retention, and whoever owns the logs.

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u/Smooth_Beach_6423 — 3 days ago

Why does every social problem get turned into a personal failure?

Something I keep noticing is how quickly structural issues get reframed as individual problems like someone is overworked, they need better time management, then if someone is burnt out then they need to take care of their mental health, someone is struggling financially, they made bad choices and it's not that these explanations are completely wrong but they feel...idk..just incomplete in a very specific way because they shift the focus from systems to individuals almost immediately, it's the default response is to locate the problem inside the person even when the pattern clearly exists across a lot of people at the same time which makes me wonder if this is less about accuracy and more about what's easier to deal with. And it's simpler to believe problems are personal because that keeps the system out of question curious if there's a framework for this beyond just "individualism" or if people have seen this play out differently in other contexts.

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u/ceremony_of_void — 6 days ago
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Fake “Faith” Tactics?

[After what I’ve been through for 16+ years](https://www.reddit.com/r/TyrannyOfTime/s/PTXVwo8R0T), I had a thought that this (now deleted) post is an example of what I consider Fake Faith-ers might do with the intersection of dark psychology, gangstalking, Sports Betting, data extraction, forgery, corruption, and more. Coercive control methods such as censorship, [labels], rumor, or even stealing dog-poop from a dumpster and spreading it around town are ways to insure/ensure the victim remains isolated.

There have been many instances where I could see red because of the treatment I’ve been through. I’m not sure the average person can grasp the levels of suffering and damages I’ve endured to be here to try to help others, and of course myself to get out of this seemingly (c)ultish (c)ontrol (C = 3, CC = 33; coincidence?) grid.

Imagine conflating something like this with the “AI Bubble”?

People love [to debate consciousness](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OWK6oSbSKKc&pp=ygUQQmxhZGVydW5uZXIgdGVzdA%3D%3D&ra=m) and [theology, and have difficulty proving it in others](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inquisition), what better dehumanizing way than to call another a “[bot](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuralink))”?

Imagine if that’s claimed to be the only way one can determine (or predetermine) another’s “[humanity](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MeBzqf03PgY&ra=m))”or not?

I can’t blame others who are neutral or good actors, but have a Epstein type character holding a gun to their head threatening to kill their children and make them eat them unless they abuse the victim too. I sometimes get a sense that happens.

It doesn’t even have to be a gun; it could be a paycheck, a promotion, or threat of ostracism or excommunication. There are many forms of control, and religious abuse and trauma is certainly one of them.

By The Way, when did these “un[precedent](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/precedent)ed times” start? 2023? 2024? Just wondering. For me it’s been since ~2010-2011, maybe much longer.

Who knows, maybe I’m just a crazy person. Do you know though? Does life feel like it is [real](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ra%C3%ABlism) or [unreal](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unreal\_Engine) in these unprecedented times?

u/_the_last_druid_13 — 9 days ago

Hope and Pleasure

Wanted to title this "good old school human" or something. Idk. Just want to ramble a bit if you want to walk with me, be my guest. I'm more asking a question, I think, of which I'm uncertain of the answer to, than making any grand theory or affirmations. Thus "experimental praxis".

I could give some backstory I guess, I quit my 70-80 hour a week job I've had since right after Covid this January 2026 and I've been coasting on my savings with no income/unemployment. So I've had time to think about my state of life and condition. Here's a link to my just-now reflection of GPT on my recent life. Not necessary for this post, just "backstory". Tldr is it's a simple diagnosis of "chop wood carry water".

But anyway. The point. I've always found Scrooge (iirc) a hard movie to watch. There's a saying in the bible of something like, just send them a spirit to save them and teach/save them/show them a better way, and he replies "they have Moses and the prophets and still [are like this]" or whatever. That's what Scrooge basically as a movie inverts/usurps. But a line I'm always thinking is "happiness is whatever you want it... 2B".

So. It's an old topic, the oldest maybe. What is hope. I've commented/posted about this frequently in the past, and think it's time for me to ask/post about it again. In short, we all know "the Helenes/Greeks and Philologists" already mapped out all the human psyche and condition ages ago. However I think there's a lot of gems of understanding we all miss even if we pick up on them. Praxis I guess is the word/flair.

I made a comment 8ish months ago that said it best;

>I'm saying like Gilgamesh and Enkidu. Civilized man and natural man. Natural man has "no rights". And is thus literally "freer" as not bound by any contractual obligations. However, when [natural] man is born they are imprinted with a birth certificate and the straw man legal fiction begins, the false alias persona, of "the Civilized man" - which we are not but a cog in a machine of "rights" which we did not consent or agree to. So "rights" technically are the antithesis of sovereignty.

This state specifically. I think the idea of "hope" is portrayed in Pandora's Box, as being, all the evils of the world. The box Zeus gave in punishment to man/Pandora (due to theft of fire iirc), contained "all the evils of the world". But when the box was opened; it only had; hope. In my prompt to GPT which generated the above reply, I noted that it is only fear and desire that keeps the "civilized" man on society/spectacle's treadmill. Natural man, lived freely in tune with nature; an "Enkidu" type. It is "hope" that is the (arguably, vain and delusional) chief motivator of compliance driving fears and desires and thus "participation in society" at scale. For reference on "scale", my comment today which re-initiated this train of thought (leading to this post). It's in-house (from this sub). But the short of it is the distinction of "society" between say natural tribes and communities versus our modern globalized system where local taxes go to overseas wars the home country has (practically) less than 10% support for. I've taken to calling this the "slush fund" society as opposed to more "natural man" society.

Anyway. Yes, I wonder often if this is what enlightenment means; what remains when all hope and/or desire/fears cease (GPT said enlightenment requires traction, not "stepping of the treadmill of Ecclesiastical vanity"). Natural Man? Pre-Pandora state? It's hard to describe. The place "devoid of hope" is the most profound state to me at least. Full realization that all is void in a wholesome way/manner. I'm curious if there is known praxis of this (is this the goal of "the quest"? The real meaning of "chop wood carry water"?).

Secondly there is Pleasure. Eden, means, simply; "pleasure". I think it's the same allegory as Pandora here. Everyone and their mom's dog says "Garden of Eden" but there was never any such thing. There was a garden, plated East of/Before - Eden. The Garden set BEFORE pleasure. The idea here eludes me I admit beyond parallel to Pandora's box. What does the "tree" represent? It clearly represents the knowledge that YHVH lied. He said if they would eat, they would surely/truly die. But they - did not die. The serpent "told the truth" while YHVH died. Though notably, YHVH - created - the serpent. So the same elusive (spiteful?) revenge/trickery theme/mechanism as Pandora's box.

So here the idea of "natural man" is seen as more innocent naivete recognizing guilt, than "hope" as a guiding/"civilizing" force. It's not to say Adam and Eve became hedonists, but is curious the Garden was set before pleasure, and they were expelled. Did they go East or West? If they went West, they would arrive in Eden/Pleasure presumably (I often wonder if this is referring to time, as in the Garden was chronologically BEFORE pleasure).

Either way we have two clear examples of "natural man" being "broken in" to the fiscal year and shaping the world into utilitarian/higher civilized constructs from on the one hand, Hope, and the other, Pleasure. Both equally tied with potential regret and shame (as well as some interpretations saying it has sexual connotations but that goes beyond scope of my post here save to say I like the phrase something like "one's sexual and social relations are reflections" - I'm lifelong voluntary celibate and essentially shut-in when not at work lol).

Anyway. I have always joked about "enlightenment" and desire to achieve it being like "hoping to cease hoping". You know what I mean? That tranquil void state where everything naturally clicks? Non duality, is that it? It feels more like "not one, not two" though. Non duality being a label or finger pointing, not this "tranquil/prince of peace" void vibe/praxis. Ofc I can't stay there is why I'm making this post, in reference to the feeling I briefly had tonight realizing I got turned down for a big job I hail marry'ed.

Idk sorry if this post is incoherent or doesn't belong here. Bonus points is curious though that Gilgamesh said there was fighting going on [in current world spectacle event] even in ancient times, in his day. And his day was considered ancient times to the early Greeks. Nothing new under the sun, this "vanity" is what I'm asking about perhaps. What is the point of hope and pleasure but to realize the "natural man" state beneath them? Is that/this what "beauty" is? Is it possible, natural man or civilized man, to be in alignment with a God that sent the civilizing force to man as punishment?

u/2BCivil — 4 days ago

Gnowhere To Go

Know Thing

I do not think I Know the thing I know

While pointing at the urine in the snow

The snow it melts and with it comes the spring.

It's birth and death that's closer to the thing.

It's closer yet it's closer now to what?

That sinking feeling nested in my gut?

That wonder that I felt when I was three?

The secrets that the masters scream at me?

Hallucinate with books and arguments

Our hearts so twisted up we’ve lost all sense

But wind still blows the trees and birds still sing

It's myth and dream that's closer to the thing

It might turn out that all the time I’ve spent

In slavery to god and government

Was merely pointing to the yellow snow

(My spirit trapped inside may cease to grow)

But birth and death are turning in the dark

And dream and myth they call upon the spark

The leaf is plucked from branch by angry wind

(It might turn out the demons are your friend!)

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u/WitWyrd — 9 days ago

Visual Pleasure and Narrative Cinema

I’m several days overdue on a discussion post and this is part of class materials. I think I want to dig into it schizoanalytically but I am only a lowly schizophrenic. Anyway it’s been sticky on me so I’m giving it to you so I can get my homework done. Enjoy.

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u/Prior_Pickle1758 — 8 days ago

The Theory of Hermeneutic Perpetualism

https://shadowofleaves.substack.com/p/the-theory-of-hermeneutic-perpetualism

Before we can try to understand the phrase itself, we have to consider its nesting conceptualizations, namely, the question of hegemony. The term hegemony is used in order to explain a particular system of control by which the nature of the power is recycled and continued such that it gains internally motivated staying power, and that certainly can apply to very specific domains, but I would generally like to speak in terms of the idea of a ‘generalized’ hegemony.

‘The’ hegemony is a generalized system which parasitizes our individualized existences and transforms them into collective beliefs and actions, particularly as it applies to solidifying the axioms which surround the division of labor and the resultant status hierarchy which forms the basis of human society. The half of society that benefits from this arrangement have no need to rationalize the need to maintain it, and as you move up the hierarchy, this pressure just increases so that those who have the most to lose are those who defend it the most vociferously. These people have only to convince a significant portion of the remainder in order for the hegemonic pressure to be sufficient to perpetuate itself, and so, coincidentally enough, all systems of social control are designed to create this pressure and then to justify itself tautologically.

A giant factor of this dissonance between those who support the system and those who are excluded in some way, is that it doesn’t need to be an overwhelming proportion in the majority to still become effective. The ‘hermeneuticism’ is that which creates an air-tight system when it gets to its ‘terminal velocity’. The system gets to a certain staying power within the fabric of society that the cost to challenge it is greater than the cost to maintain it, and thus it becomes recursively reinforced; the ‘outward’ pressure begins to equalize with the ‘inward’ pressure of maintaining. The ‘inward’ pressure is the pressure of the system as it creates friction on the people who are tasked to maintain it, and without the self-justifying narrative, historically the structure will collapse in revolution and then a new structure becomes created. These collapses are costly and the system seeks the holding pattern which creates the pattern of generational power and the pooling of resources in the ecology/economy, such that outward cost of maintenance is minimized and the power structure becomes self-justified. The ‘outward’ pressure is the rationalizations which get perpetuated, which contradict these revolutionary tendencies. The ‘American dream’ being the most effective such narrative ever conceived, which effectively allows the illusion of upward social mobility in order to quell the nascent revolutionary tendency; this was the greatest genius of the founding fathers in that they allow for the conditions to create revolution in order to circumvent it by giving it as an option.

Capitalist hegemony is a key feature of the system, not a bug; the system of enclosures creates the hermeneutic nature necessary to force all ends into fungible tokens, and the collection of these tokens is self-rationalizing because the value is in their quantitative possession. This demands the question of whether other types of hegemony are present, relevant, or have even existed, but given that those things which are outside the domain of money that are of great consequence, such as matters of sex and politics, yet still become hegemonic (particularly the heteronormative hegemony), we can see that cedes the premise of our inquiry. However, the capitalist mechanism becomes greater and it seeks to monetize increasingly diffuse objects (as from gross examples such as in early capitalist systems to the derivatives of modernity) as the relative frontier of conflict becomes asymptotically minute. The capitalist hegemony starts to account for increasingly esoteric aspects of human nature as people come to rationalize everything in terms of dollars and market share, and subsequently people’s moral sentiments become locked into this mentality such that it becomes their own lucidly self-professed attitude.

This is where we finally get to the entire phrase and its semantic consequences; ‘hermeneutic perpetualism’, the perpetuation of the continuation of the outward pressure of a system of control through the reification of the system. This is most thoroughly borne out and utterly anachronistic when it manifests in people who are the victims of these processes yet feel the need to defend them in some show of obsequious self-sacrifice in order to gain some cryptic karmic favor. As long as these become touchstones of common morality, then it will effectively become entrenched deeply in the axioms of human interaction. It isn’t a function of it being instilled so that it perpetuates the system, it is that the system becomes so ubiquitous that the dictates of its limitations become the rules of engagement within the system. This is most evident through the capitalist model, in which people become fully bamboozled by the thought that some genuine efforts will end to greater positions within the status hierarchy, such that it is a system that seems on the surface to be meritocratic.

The illusion of a meritocracy is a founding ethic of our hegemony, because it is that sense that gives the dual sided feeling that: anything is possible with the correct application of effort, and that your position is rationalized by your ‘capabilities’ (or lack thereof). If you are a person who succeeded, than your lack of effort just increases the optics of your power in relation to its benefits, so it actually becomes an integral part of a person’s reputation for power and, predictably, most people in power come to fetishize a relative lack of effort and the relative outsized seeming value of a person’s increasingly fractionalized time. If you are a person who is a failure, the idea that you can’t achieve a given outcome is always compared to the possibility of being able to execute your discipline in a greater way, which each person necessarily falls short of. It then becomes a guilty conscience situation, where that person, despite possibly ‘trying’ harder than people who have ostensibly greater status and remuneration, think of the amount that they could possibly increase their efforts, and we completely underplay the structural reality on both sides; it high-stakes fiduciary gas-lighting. This is inline with the fundamental attribution error, but actually cuts against the usual interpretation that these limitations are strictly self-effacing, but that this proves that it can be used in situations where it might be better to do the opposite and accept the structural limitations of certain situations.

This may be the basis of the attribution error, and perhaps why it is culturally relative and flip-flops in more interdependent cultures rather than individualistic cultures, because it is established in the underlying logic of the western ethos. The exemplification of the individuation of the western ethic in modernity means, in the application of the fundamental attribution error. My function definition for that phrase here is that for successful actions of an ingroup member, those actions will be attributed to intrinsic capabilities of the person, and conversely for failures, those actions will be distanced from others while other ingroup members will focus on the structural elements which had a greater power over the outcome than a person’s intrinsic capabilities, thus relieving them of culpability. However, this isn’t broached in the attribution of the negative status of failing to succeed in capitalist systems; the logic, overwhelmingly, is that the structural elements have to be completely discounted and so the full onus falls on the intrinsic capabilities of the person, and thus is the underlying logic of a system which is meritocratic.

Why does it seem to be the case that when applied to the proletariat, it challenges the logic of a statistically significant element of human cognition? Could it be that in doing so, and creating the unimpeachable aspect of this as an element of the western ethos necessary for perpetuation of our capitalistic hegemony, for which we owe all the mind breaking pleasures and reality shredding horrors of modernity, will create the upward momentum required to innovate at the cost of the dehumanization of a certain proportion of the population. Is it possible that in keeping this axiom of capitalist culture constant, as our Archimedean anchor, that we have reversed the attribution error, and thus view the poor people who reveal our innate cultural contradiction and we therefore put immense leverage against portraying those people as the ‘outgroup’ to thus balance the ledger? My position would be that, naturally, this would be the case.

u/surtssword — 9 days ago