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CDBabe-Do they own your Masters?!

Hi guys, I’m about to release a song and I’m pulling my hair. Mainly CD Babe language in Addendum “..you herby grant to us the exclusive right as explained below and to our Licensees;
Reproduce, distribute, publicly perform,promote, sell and deliver Your Content as Digital Masters..”

My understanding is they own my masters.

Since CD Babe was recently acquired by UMG it looks like they are acting now like a regular record label. I don’t want to lose my ownership that early in a game. Are there any better aggregators I could choose from?

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u/SeraQueen93 — 14 hours ago

How do PROs work with sending loops and instrumentals out to people?

Im pretty new to PRO registration and how that whole side of the industry works. Let's say you send out loops or instrumentals to people and they potentially get placed on a record, how can you protect yourself with the splits and things when you might not know where loops are going? They could be passed around everywhere. Is it possible to register them on a PRO before sending them, does that even have anything to do with it?

Whats some general tips and common practice when sending out things to people like that and keeping yourself safe?

Thanks!

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u/Popular_Platform9142 — 2 days ago

Switching Distributors During YouTube Official Artist Channel Verification?

Alright, so I’m seriously considering switching from Too Lost to Symphonic Distribution because my experience with TooLost has honestly been pretty frustrating so far.

The main issue is my YouTube Official Artist Channel. They now claim the request has been processed and submitted to YouTube, but everything has taken so long that I genuinely don’t know what to believe anymore.

I’ve heard from other artists that Symphonic handled the OAC process much faster and with better support overall.

Would love to hear honest experiences from people who’ve used Symphonic, especially regarding:

  • YouTube Official Artist Channels
  • support responsiveness
  • release transfers/migrations
  • general reliability

Thanks in advance.

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u/Every_Sherbert2802 — 2 days ago

What’s one thing newer artists underestimate when trying to build a fanbase?

A lot of people focus only on dropping music, but the artists that actually stick usually build a full world around themselves. The music matters obviously, but so does identity, consistency, visuals, community, and personality.
Curious what everyone thinks newer artists overlook the most right now? What makes YOU pause and want to invest your attention to a new artist?

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u/ServingSoundsHQ — 3 days ago

Advice as a producer

Looking for advice on how to market my beats better, been making beats for about 3 years and mostly working on improving my quality while doing basic marketing. I post lots of short form content showing my beats finished, making the beats, transitions, beat breakdown etc, sometimes with my face sometimes just the DAW and i don't get many views. I see alot do the same thing and it works out, for YouTube I just post my beat with an artist / photo that matches the vibe. One of my issues is I'm not sure if I wanna sell beats, make songs by myself, or find artist to work with so I'm just doing whatever to get my music out there but definitely need some more advice. Especially with YouTube, it's hard to find a good thumbnail and title for your beat that gets more than 10 views imo. Any help is appreciated, Thank you

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u/JTBeatsOfficial — 2 days ago

Why did UMG let Drake finesse them?

With Drake releasing three new albums last night, I have been seeing discussion regarding the fact that he did this so that he could fulfill the rest of his deal with Universal Music Group quickly. It got me thinking though: don't record execs have to sign off on an album before it's released? Why would they let him finesse them like this and fulfill the rest of his contract in one night rather than releasing the other two albums (Maid of Honour and Habibti; Iceman was already planned) over the course of 2-3 years like normal? Why did the record label let this happen? He's one of the biggest artists in the world so there's no way they wanted him off of their roster, right?

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u/True-Mathematician89 — 5 days ago

Problem with ASCAP/PRS payments

Hi.

I’m a UK-based musician who uses PRS for Music as my PRO. I released an album in 2022 and registered all tracks with PRS and, through them, ASCAP in the US. Since then the album’s received about 3 million streams, the majority in the US, but I’ve never received any US royalty payments.

I started querying this with PRS about a year ago and they first told me I just had to wait. However, after looking through the Songview database I saw none of the tracks were showing as being in the ASCAP catalogue.

After several more messages with PRS they finally agreed to contact ASCAP and look into it, using the example of the highest-performing track on the album. They’ve since responded that ASCAP have confirmed the song is registered with them but that “there are no eligible performances captured prior to the works registration with us.”

I’ve asked PRS twice now to clarify on what date the song was actually registered with ASCAP, but so far they seem to be avoiding answering that question. I suspect this means it’s only just been registered with them. (The song does now appear in the Songview database.)

I’m thinking now that it’s pretty obvious there was an error in registering these songs with ASCAP, whether through the fault of PRS or ASCAP themselves. Assuming that’s the case, is there any chance of me actually receiving these royalties and, if so, how??

Any advice much appreciated!

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u/bigjimsugarplants — 4 days ago
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Which of these r for bmi?

So I’m trying to register my music with sound exchange through bmi

Which of these r the correct percentages to use?

75% me and 25% them or 50/50?

u/Best-Atmosphere1984 — 5 days ago

high schooler graduating early in need of advice.

hello, im a junior in high school who will be graduating early next year (Jan 27'). i'm in need of advice on what I should do. I want to pursue a music business degree in college (save the not worth it comments), but with this extra time off, I wanted to kind of begin getting a little experience within the industry. my overall goal is to become an artist manager, but I wanted to start by maybe getting a full-time job in the industry in any part of it (preferably the production side of live events), so any advice of what i should do?

if you have location-based advice (idek if this is a thing), im about an hour away from chicago.

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u/kartmaraj — 5 days ago

Is ghostwriting prevalent in Country music ?

I feel like I see indicators of both sides of this and was curious if any insiders have the scoop. I am only interested in discussing the Country genre.

This all started due a to a close friend who is a songwriter with numerous verifiable credits. He explained to me how and why certain songs are ghostwritten, so that an artist can gain 'cred' as a songwriter. He provided one example of a song that topped the Billboard Country chart in 2009 that he claimed to know the songs true writer, which I initially found hard to believe. But when I went down the rabbit hole, I was able to see that this song, specifically, was credited differently than any other song in the bands catalogue and published differently than any other (credit included the manager). I'll be vague about the circumstances, but the real writer was offered a choice between a hefty lump sum or simply a published co write that may or not pay out much over time if the song was a hit. He took the lump because it was a sizeable amount and he wanted to pay cash for a house. He is not credited anywhere, and he does not regret his decision. Although the long term payout due to the songs success would have been more, this was early in his career and he has written many other songs and these days, is not hurting for cash. He also now refuses to ghost write.

Another way this was explained to me is how Garth Brooks has a songwriting credit on virtually all of his major hits once he was developed, and very little credits on any deep cuts. It was said that Garth was so strong in the 90's, that if you wanted Garth to cut your song, which would almost guarantee you a fortune, you had to concede some ownership to Garth.

However, to contradict that, and to bring this entire topic into suspicion, George Strait, for all his success, has virtually zero songwriting credits on any of his hits. Out of more than 50 #1 songs, he has no credit on a single one. Using the supposed Garth Brooks logic, surely, at the peak of his career, had George demanded a writing credit on some songs, he could have gotten it.

By no means am I suggesting that every song with the artists name on it in modern country was secretly ghostwritten. By no means am I saying this is the norm, and that rule of 3 isn't the standard in Nashville. But does ghostwriting happen?

u/SwissMiss915 — 5 days ago

Need advice on how to market my music

I am a singer-songwriter that works in bedroom/indie pop and indie rock spaces. I currently have a little over 600 Spotify monthly listeners and I’d like to get those numbers up. More importantly I wanna grow a dedicated fan base large enough where I can live off music. I don’t have the biggest budget, I use what I have for a sound engineer. However, I’m willing to spend more on ads if they’re worth the $10 a day or whatever the number will be. Lmk if there’s other options. The main thing I do is post content on socials. I’ve experimented with different strategies from 5 times a week to 12 times a day. If you’re knowledgeable in my specific niche please feel free to give some advice. If you’d like to look and critique my pages or music, the link in my bio will have all the info. All advice is welcome

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u/mickeygoldofficial — 4 days ago

Believe catalog for sale

As many people here already know, I’m looking to sell my digital catalog distributed through Believe since 17 years, for which I currently hold 100% of the rights after having lost contact with most of the artists for more than 10years.

It includes works with multiple artists over more than 16 years and generates between €1,500 and €2,000 per quarter. The catalogue has been stable for years.

I’ve essentially left it idle for over 10 years, but I believe it still has strong potential.

Since I’m looking to sell it quickly and taking my catalog into account, do you think that €10,000 would be a reasonable price for a fast sale?

Regards,

u/Comfortable_Mess1195 — 5 days ago

Is a 30% publishing split fair for a beatmaker?

I made a beat for an artist for free, and now we’re discussing the publishing split. He’s saying I should get 30% and he keeps 70%, since he’s writing and recording his own vocals. His reasoning is that if I were also mixing the vocals, then a 50/50 split would make more sense.

I’m not sure if this is a fair deal or not. From your experience, does 30% for the beatmaker sound reasonable in this situation, or should I be pushing for a more even split? (i’ve used no samples or loops)

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u/Proper_Substance1381 — 9 days ago

Using a video game reference in an album title

Would it be unwise to use 'Mako Reactor' for an album title?

It's from Final Fantasy VII

I don't want to get sued or anything like that.

I don't have much following at all atm, but want to grow over time. Figure I'd be fine for now since no one has heard of me, but maybe in future it could cause issues?

It's an album of experimental electronic music.

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u/Ok-Use-6432 — 7 days ago

DSP songwriter/publishing royalties.

How is it that downloads of songs from DSPs are not subject to the full mechanical rate and only pay out to publishers and songwriters at a fractional rate? How did this happen and where is the lgal justification for this? Also, how is it that the royalty rate for actual recordings/ the master are greater with regard to DSPs?

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u/SaintGremain5448 — 7 days ago

i’m a producer (work for hire) and my client (sole composer) definitely copied another song

title. i’m a work for hire producer, and i have a client (wrote all lyrics and chords, i’m literally just adding productions, i’m taking no mechanical split) who copied several traits of a fairly popular song. i know they know the song they ripped off because that was one of three songs they sent me for inspiration/reference.

how would you go about this? would you confront the client about it at all? would you step off the project entirely? would you keep doing it because you wouldn’t be taking any mechanical royalties?

i suppose this is both a question of ethics and legality…so, also, how would i protect myself legally as a producer from getting in trouble for interpolating on a song i didn’t write?

thanks y’all!

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u/Remote-Breadfruit-81 — 10 days ago

Had a record deal in late 80s/early 90s, label went defunct, now content is on Apple Music -- how do I get my fair share?

My late 80s/early 90s project had a record deal with a label in Berlin which resulted in a couple albums and a couple or more label roster compilations. AFAIK the records didn't go anywhere and to my knowledge no earnings were realized. The project disbanded after the second album release, the label went defunct in 2008, and the label owner passed in 2016.

TIL that the two albums are now on Apple Music and iTunes under the previously defunct label name.

Now, I'm guessing that there's no real money to be made but am wondering if it might be amusing to try to recoup whatever small royalties might be owed -- what's the lowest-lift method for accomplishing this? Thanks for any and all tips!

UPDATE: I found the contract for the first album, which clearly states that the record company has the right to do its thing for 6 years, so the Apple Music/iTunes stuff seems in breach.

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u/lewisfrancis — 9 days ago

Watch out for “Major Label” scam - Colombia Records etc

I’ve seen a scam going around of someone who supposedly works a major label (Colombia Records is a common one) reaching out, then asking you if you believe in yourself and want to invest in yourself, want to work with Colombia records etc.

ANY REAL LABEL WILL BE OFFERING YOU MONEY, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND.

No label will ever ask you for money out of your own pocket. No label will ever ask you to match their investment (you out $50k, we’ll put $50k).

Also if you don’t have a few hundred thousand monthly listeners, or more likely over a million, there’s no way these big labels are reaching out.

If it’s too good to be true, it probably isn’t true.

Share experiences here if you’ve had them so others know what to look for.

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u/Radiant-Orchid-9474 — 9 days ago
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Spotify just announced a "Verified human artist" badge

Spotify's new "verified human" badge uses merch, tour dates and social activity as signals. Curious how others see this it does help filter content farms, but it also seems to exclude bedroom producers who don't tour or sell merch. Wouldn't tagging the music itself be a cleaner solution than verifying the artist's marketing footprint?
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5yerr4m1yno

u/breizh_boy — 12 days ago

Im not sure if this is really legit ???

I got a message from suposed "Emy Chinen" of Columbia Records, asking me if signed for any other record companies. I responded no then she said " I would love to get you signed up into Columbia records if you are interested" Im not sure what is going on because 2 days later another message came up from a different person asking if I heard of Columbia Records. Coincidence??? Here is the supposed Emy Chinen I was talking about: https://soundcloud.com/emy-chinen-634567405

She also asked me for microsoft teams to get buisness done. Im confused this is either real or fake. Which is it? Anybody else have this happen?

Here is the conversation:

  • Emy Chinen hello amazing tracks you got out there are you in a record label
  • Me Do not believe so?
  • Me No im not
  • Emy Chinen really you do not believe in your craft
  • Emy Chinen well I believe in it
  • Emy Chinen and am willing to take you to the next level
  • Emy Chinen I would love to get you signed up into Columbia records if you are interested
  • Me For real?
  • Me Im down 100%. If you don't mind tho just so I make sure this is ligit would you be able to prove that you are indeed with Columbia records?
  • Me You know what. I will give you one more chance. Prove you are not ai or that you work with Colombia Records then I will belive you.
  • Me Yes im interested btw. But I still need good proof you are the real Emy Chinen.
  • Emy Chinen hmm
  • Emy Chinen okay just download Microsoft teams app and sign up and get back to me so I can add you up and explain in details on how your contract looks like and what you stand in to gain under Columbia records
  • Me Please prove you are who you say you are first. I have an idea. Im going to send you an email to "Emy Chinen" who is manager of Columbia Records. You who I would assume is indeed who you say you are going to respond to me through her email to confirm. Then I will go through :)!
  • Me Nvm it will not work. I have a better idea. What is your email? I will then send you an email through the email you give me and see if you respond through that same email confirming you are the real Emy Chinen.
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u/Still_Car7659 — 10 days ago