r/dualcitizenshipnerds

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How can I get an EU passport/citizenship as a UK citizen?

I’m 20 years old from the UK and currently a student pilot. My long term goal is to eventually move out of the UK and live/work somewhere in Europe, ideally flying there in the future as well.

I’ve been looking into different ways of getting EU citizenship or residency rights and originally thought I might qualify through Ireland because of my ancestry. However, after researching it more, it seems like it only works if your parent or grandparent was born in Ireland, whereas in my case it was my great grandparents who were Irish citizens.

From what I’ve seen, that means I probably can’t claim Irish citizenship through descent, but I wanted to ask if there are any other possible routes people would recommend looking into.

For example:

• visas/residency routes that could eventually lead to citizenship

• countries that are easier for UK citizens to move to

• aviation-specific pathways

•studying or working abroad first

• anything related to ancestry that I might have missed

Would appreciate any advice from people who’ve gone through something similar.

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u/luisjamesnelson — 16 hours ago

Dual Citizenship Question.

To those who are holding dual citizenship. 

Which nationality would you choose if there's an ultimatum that you can only hold one nationality, your birth country citizenship or your naturalized citizenship?

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u/Khon2510 — 1 day ago

I heard that because of recent changes. You now need both of your passport to travel sometime is it true?

I am French and Canadian living in canada about to do a month long trip to France.

My Canadian passeport is valid but my french passport is expired. I had no intent on renewing my french passport and I just wanted to travel as a Canadian since there is no roadblock for Canadian to travel to france.

But I am hearing miscelanious and hard to confirm information that if you have dual citizenship they verifidy the validity of both of your passport when traveling. Is that true?

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u/Working-Chip9502 — 13 hours ago
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Displaying Expired Passports

Decided to give my expired passports a second life. Using an IKEA frame.

Úgy döntöttem, hogy lejárt útleveleimnek adok egy második életet. Egy IKEA-s keretet használok.

u/Zestyclose_End766 — 3 days ago

Considering dual citizenship with UK (current US)

Hi all! I've been Googling around but found this sub and it looks best to ask in.

What are some things I should consider before applying for my UK citizenship? I travel there frequently for work and my fraternal family is there, so I figured it would make it simpler. And it sounds cool to have dual. lol.

I know that certain government jobs may not accept those with dual citizenships, and the political climate of the US recently makes me think that I should be asking a few more questions but can't find what those are.

Thank you!

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u/Top-Tumbleweed-8061 — 3 days ago
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British passport but kids with ETAs

Hi all,

I've backed myself into a corner a little with the new rules regarding Great Britain and ETAs. I'm British but moved to Sweden and have a Swedish passport. My mother was recently diagnosed with cancer so after reading the changes, I quickly applied for a British passport which arrived recently and we thought everything was good, until I did some digging and realised that my children, despite never having been registered in England, also qualify as having right to abode and therefore can't officially get ETAs. But we fly to England in 4 weeks, so I don't have enough time to get them English passports.

Does anyone have experience with this? My plan was initially that my Swedish wife would get an ETA together with our two kids (who both have Nationality: Swedish on their passports and nothing else), and we would all travel together on the same booking. Now I'm worried that either the airline or passport control will see a British man travelling with children with the same surname and assume that they are British children with invalid ETAs.

Has anyone here travelled to Great Britain with a British passport but with dual nationality kids on other passports? Will anyone care, or am I overthinking everything and freaking out for nothing?

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u/ChiefMooseMatt — 3 days ago
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I see a lot of treads about Bill C-3 and this post may help some.

The applications is actually going back beyond grandparents, the key is proving an unbroken documentary chain connecting each generation to the Canadian ancestor. The further back it goes, the harder it gets in practice, as it can get difficult to locate the documents needed to prove the Canadian citizenship of the ancestor.

I would really recommend looking into professional help if you are dealing with a complex multi-generational case, as it makes a big difference having someone who knows exactly what IRCC wants to see.

As for non-certified records, from what I understand, IRCC does not typically need certified records.
Hope this helps, and good luck to us all!

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u/justwatchthefire — 2 days ago
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People are acting like the new Portuguese nationality law means the end of the world, but honestly, it’s not all doom and gloom.

First of all: Golden Visa = Residency by Investment. That part hasn’t changed. You still get residency rights, Schengen access, and permanent residency eligibility after 5 years. The famous 7 days/year stay requirement is still there.

What changed is the path to citizenship, not residency.
And to be fair, part of this reform was also meant to fix years of delays, bureaucracy, and administrative chaos. Anyone who has actually dealt with AIMA/SEF knows the system desperately needed reform.

Portugal has been incredibly good for my wife and kid. The country isn’t the villain here. It’s a democracy trying to rebalance immigration, integration, and an overwhelmed bureaucracy, like half of Europe right now!

Honestly, if someone wants a Portuguese passport, waiting longer and actually building some connection to the country doesn’t sound outrageous to me. Citizenship should probably mean more than just parking capital somewhere for a few years.

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u/GlobalMoves — 7 days ago
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RE: Dual Citizenship - British and Dutch

Hi,

I hope this enquiry finds you well!

I am writing to ask if anyone could provide me with some clarification regarding Dutch nationality law in relation to naturalising as a British citizen.

I am a Dutch national who moved to the United Kingdom at the age of 8 (10/10/2012) and have lived here continuously since October 2012. I am now considering applying for British citizenship.

Before I proceed, I would like to confirm whether I would be permitted to retain my Dutch nationality under Article 15(2)(c) of the Dutch Nationality Act, on the basis that I grew up abroad as a minor and have been resident in the UK for the majority of my life.

Could you please confirm whether this exception applies in my situation even though I am now 22 and whether naturalising as a British citizen would affect my Dutch nationality?

I have asked the Dutch embassy but I am not getting a clear answer or response so was wondering if anyone else has gone through something similar.

Thank you very much for your assistance!

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u/Far-iba_ — 1 day ago
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Question concerning multiple citizenships

Dear all,

I'm hoping someone is this sub can help me with the following issue:

Me and my mother are in the process of restoring or Lithuanian citizenship. My grandmother was a person who left Lithuania before 1940 so we do qualify for dual citizenship.

However, we are (or were) also gathering documents for having or italian citizenship declared (my mother is the granddaughter of a italian woman. I do am aware that my case face some difficulties under the new law). According to Italian Law citizenship is granted at birth, even if unrecognized at the time by the state (that is, in the absence of any formal documentation) and the judge or consulate role is merely to declare this existing situation, not to create anything new. In civil law terms: the law suit here is of declaratory effects, not constitutive. So, to sum up, this doesn't count, at least on what concerns Italian law, as acquiring any new citizenship. Other civil law countries, such as Brazil, where we are from, always interpreted this situation in this exact way and allowed dual citizenship with italian citizenship even in cases where dual citizenship by acquisition was forbiden (such as Brazil prior to 2021).

My question is how Lithuania would interpret this situation and I was hoping to know if someone here ever faced a similar situation.

Because, as far as I am concerned, Lithuania does allow dual citizenship to those who had multiple citizenships at birth (which would be the case here) as well as to those who are restoring it (my case). So we would be covered by the law.

Thanks!!!

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u/Suitable_Host_5633 — 2 days ago
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Can’t get dad get dad’s naturalization certificate

So I’ve seen the checklists going around & I have a concern about my application. I’m applying through my maternal great-grandfather & I have all the boxes checked & am getting documents together for that line but what is concerning to me is that my father is a former German citizen who naturalized in the US in 1994 (the year before I was born) & I don’t believe I’ll be able to get him to let me me borrow his naturalization certificate to bring to the NYC consulate & have copied.

I could use some advice on if this is going to be a problem for me & if there would be any way around it if it will be a problem.

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u/Majestic_Ocean_762 — 15 hours ago

US/EU flying to Germany via the U.S. — which passport for check-in?

I am a dual U.S./EU citizen currently in Mexico. I entered Mexico from South America using my EU passport.

I now have a flight from Mexico to Germany, but the itinerary connects through the United States.

I am confused about which passport to use for airline check-in / online check-in.

My concern is:

  • I entered Mexico on my EU passport, and Mexico apparently relies on airline data for departures.
  • Since the flight goes through the U.S., I assume the airline also needs my U.S. passport, because I am a U.S. citizen and cannot use ESTA.
  • My final destination is Germany/EU, where I would normally use my EU passport.
  • I also prefer not to give the airline more passport information than necessary or link both passports in their systems if I do not have to.

So what should I do for check-in if the airline asks for one travel document?

Has anyone dealt with this kind of situation before — especially involving Mexico exit records, U.S. transit as a U.S. citizen, and final entry into the EU?

Also, how would this work in the future once ETIAS is implemented? Would this make the situation even more complicated for dual U.S./EU citizens, since a U.S. passport might need ETIAS for Europe, while an EU citizen would normally enter the EU on the EU passport?

I am not trying to avoid any rules. I just want to do it correctly without creating a messy immigration record or sharing more data than necessary.

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u/jhughey71 — 7 hours ago

I am a triple citizen of the UK/Ireland/USA. My UK passport has expired, and I was planning on entering the UK on my Irish passport in a few weeks’ time.

Suddenly paranoid that as a UK citizen I am required to enter the UK exclusively on my UK passport.

Can anyone confirm that my Irish passport is sufficient?

Thank you!

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u/welivebylove — 9 days ago

Hello, I am asking reddit even though I have looked into this myself and all signs point to me now, all of a sudden, needing a British passport to visit England. This seems crazy?! I was born in Canada in 1992 to a Canadian father and dual citizen mother. My mother has lived in Canada since she was a teen. I have visited England many times but never lived there. I have an aging grandmother and very sick uncle and want to make a trip to see them this springand am just now learning that I will now need a British passport to do so. I'm not against getting the passport, but my mother started the application for her British passport that she let lapse on March 3rd and they only received the application April 20th. She mailed them her birth certificate so I need to wait for it to come back before I can make my application. I hate feeling like I won't be able to make the trip on short notice if need be. I know there is the certificate of entitlement route but that costs $1000. Are there any other work arounds? Like what if I flew into Paris or Dublin and arrived into UK through bus/train/boat? Any and all input appreciated!!

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u/adyasaje — 11 days ago
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Sorry! Another dual nationality post. This is the ridiculous situation many dual nationals are going to be in, especially going into the summer months with much more international travel expected. My reading of it is that if they had got an ETA for their baby it would very likely have been fine. The issue was that the Austrian passport said born in the uk on it but they didn’t have the correct/ any uk travel documents (like a passport or certificate of entitlement). If the child had got an ETA, this problem would likely have been avoided, but once the authorities were alerted to the child’s citizenship, the couple could not get the ETA. Seems extremely harsh and over the top to me. This, coupled with the new entry/ exit requirements for going to the EU from the uk, is going to cause absolute chaos in airports this year. But of course the home office said it’s not their problem or fault!

u/rustyfeatherstone93 — 7 days ago

woke up and suddenly my whole family is austrian

hello, i have migrated with my parents since i was 12 to austria, but had to run away at some point. today my family claimed austrian citizenship after 10 years.

am i eligable to get anything? like i only have a travel document not an actual passport from any country that is valid..

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u/Successful_List_6499 — 4 days ago