r/drivingUK

Staring to see a rise in people causing problems by being *too* keen to not middle lane hog?

I get wound up by those happily plodding along, refusing to budge from the lap of luxury in the centre of the British highways, as much as the next person.

However...

Perhaps because of the prevalence of people complaining about middle lane hoggers online - often being amongst the top comment on dashcam clips if someone doesn't move over as soon as there's what looks like a 20cm gap in the left lane (despite us usually not even being able to see what's even to the left of the cam car) - I feel I've seen more and more people going too far the other way in recent year; changing lanes every 5 seconds to make a point of moving back in to a left lane they're clearly travelling faster than with more vehicles just a short distance ahead.

It's clearly more dangerous than just staying in lane if you can see you're catching up to traffic up ahead (within reason). The risk of an accident significantly increases during any lane change manoeuvre. I expect overdoing them is actually more dangerous than just staying in the middle lane for your entire journey. There's not really any situation where moving in to a left lane you can see you're going faster than helps anyone. In congested traffic, it's actually against the highway code. If the roads are quiet, then you aren't really inconveniencing anyone else that can simply overtake you on the third or fourth lane. You become far more of a pain if they're coming up behind you in a lane they saw you vacate, only for your right indicator to be coming on again in no time.

Whilst not without dangers itself, stubbornly staying planted in the second or third lane is typically just an annoyance for those around you. You're at least often a very predictable obstacle, as you're moving along in one lane at a largely consistent speed.

I appreciate everyone will (or at least I do) at times make an unnecessary lane change to the left by misreading just how quickly you're going to have to overtake. I'm more taking aim at those where it appears to be how they aim to drive.

And to make it absolutely clear, I'm not advocating for lane hogs. They are still overall the biggest bane of my motorway dwelling life. I'm just saying that I think the left lane warriors, whilst not yet quite as common, when you do come across them are arguably even worse.

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u/AdequateAppendage — 2 hours ago

Permit holders or 1hr

Apologies for the blurry photo, it’s a screenshot from Street View.

If I park here without a permit at 17:30 do I have to move the car at 18:30 or am I OK to stay overnight?

u/Gorf1 — 2 hours ago

Am I bugging ?

So yesterday I drove to ldn from brum, obvs I’m following the speed checks like 40, ,50 ,60 etc but everyone around me was doing more than that. Are they getting fined ? Or the cameras don’t work ?

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u/jaguarknigh10 — 2 hours ago

Someone bumped into me - what are my options?

Hi, a couple days ago someone bumped into the rear of my car. I was stood completely stationary at a give way and they hit me from behind. It wasn't too high speed so there's cosmetic damage to the rear bumper. We stopped at the side of the road and rather stupidly, I only got their phone number and name. They replied to my messages for the next 1 day and acknowledged it was their fault and agreed to pay but now seem to have blocked me. What are my options? I know it's my fault to not get any further details but is there any way I can do anything with their name and contact number?

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u/EauRouge7105 — 2 hours ago

What's with this roundabout?

I know it's very place specific, but maybe someone knows this place and could explain.

I drive to and park at car park 2 at O2 London every few weeks. When coming out of said carpark, I need to turn left , to the roundabout and then turn around on a roundabout to drive the same road I came from.

I follow the roundabout as you should , going around it, and yet busses and other people go how they please. They just turn around as if it was a normal road, not a roundabout at all, and recently I was already on a roundabout, signalling right and a bus going from opposite me went just in front of me , trying to turn right and having a go at me that I'm in the wrong and blocking his way (as apart from cutting me up, he wouldn't go around the roundabout, just cutting across the withe bit - and I know you can do it, but it's a big roundabout!)

Has anyone experienced this roundabout like I seem to do? Is there something I'm missing?

u/Agitated-Break7854 — 3 hours ago

Is Petrol still king? Is Diesel dead? The rise of the PHEV! Fuel breakdown for New car registrations vs Used car transactions - so far in 2026

Source: SMMT (has Jan to April data for new cars but only Q1 data for used)

u/MarkCairns67 — 5 hours ago

Almost got rear ended because of my own fault.

Almost got rear ended after being pressurised by the van driver giving me way before his turn. And the black car was almost hidden by the two vans seating there. Even tho I fully admit my fault as I should have double checked before merging into the lane. What do you do to avoid something like this happening to you?

u/No-Sea-115 — 11 hours ago

What did I do wrong & what does a driver signalling 'P' mean?

Hi all, I've been driving for around 3 months now and have never had another driver flash me before however, today the same driver flashed me twice and signalled 'P' to me with their hand when going past. I've recounted what happened below, would be grateful to hear your thoughts on what I did wrong and what to do better next time. -Thank you in advance!

For background, I was driving in South Manchester on the M60 and Gmaps said to take the A5103 exit [Junction 5] to Didsbury. As you can see from the photo, after taking the exit, you have 2 bends before joining the A5103 that cuts through Kenworthy woods. [It looks like a roundabout, but it isn't]. When I took my exit, I started to slow down as I was following the route and that's when the driver behind me started flashing me. I thought he was flashing me because I was slowing down too much so increased my speed. Admittedly, I increased it too fast, it should have been gradual as, when it came to the bend I realised I was doing around 55 and had to brake to smoothly make the turn.

Then, once I had joined the A5103, [the road that cuts through Kenworthy woods]. I merged into the first lane but as I had to make a right turn ahead, checked my mirrors etc.. and merged into the middle lane. That's when the same car, that was quite far behind me, starts to aggressively flash me. I panicked, thinking I did something really bad and then quickly merged back into the first lane.

When the driver went past me, he pointed to the road, then signalled 'P' to me with his hands twice. I was puzzled and confused, I have no idea what he meant by that. I asked a 2nd opinion and they said maybe he was signalling that there was police ahead as he saw how I increased my speed and, the road we had joined was a 30 and had multiple speed cameras. But, at this point, my car wasn't going over 30 at all. I was alerted by Gmaps that it was a 30 and there were cameras. Also, if they were signalling about my speed, surely they would have done a '30' sign with their hands instead?

Looking back, I don't even think there were police ahead either. But, I'm super confused and have been running it back in my head all evening trying to figure out what I did wrong.

Would be open to hear your thoughts on what I did wrong, and what to improve on in my driving. I know I shouldn't have panicked when he flashed me the first time, and should have gradually increased my speed rather than do it at once and then have to use my brakes when making the turns.

u/Altruistic_Whale4104 — 14 hours ago
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What could I have done differently with giving way?

This village road with parked cars to the right side is usually wide enough for two opposing cars to squeeze through.

Today there was a large lorry which I misjudged and awkwardly went on the pavement. Is there a better course of action I should have taken or just one of these things?

Maybe braked as soon as I moved past the cars parked on my left? Not sure either of us would have space though. Perhaps reversed?

u/advicenumber — 21 hours ago

Got into an accident this morning. Is it too late?

This is my first year of driving and I’m a student (23) with a black box with Hastings direct.

Tried taking a right turn at a junction where there was quite a lot of traffic in the first lane crossed so my visibility was poor, didn’t see this car coming and the sides of our front bumpers collided. The other party had only bought the car a few days ago from the Honda dealership.

I had never dealt with anything like this and the other individual involved didn’t speak very good English so we waited until his brother arrived at the scene to help mediate and translate.

I explained the situation and said it was basically my fault and thought that it would be best settled privately in fear of insurance premiums sky rocketing.

We ended up going to the Honda garage to get his car checked structural damage and there was none but there was minor cosmetic damage to his bumper which had a minor crack at the bottom but we were told it had to be replaced.

We go to a body shop and I decided to pay for the work for £900 (pre-painted bumper from Honda + labour) and they had booked it to be done June 3rd.

Now I realised that I made a mistake and should have just settled through insurance. My black box score is 98 and it didn’t even pick up the collision. Is it too late? I have the guy’s name and registration plate but no phone number or policy number.

I’d like some general advice on what the next best step would be:
- Whether the insurance claim would majorly increase my premium and if my high black box score even makes a difference?
- If at this point, with work being paid for but no where near started, it’s still worth going through insurance?
- Should I at least inform them of the incident?

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u/Human-Ad-274 — 14 hours ago

Anyone stopped using CarPlay and listen to the radio again?

Use to always use CarPlay and play Spotify. But as I get older I’ve started missing the radio and have gone back to listening it again. Shout out to heart 80s! They play some bangers. Anyone else going back to radio in the car?

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u/Outrageous_Agent_608 — 18 hours ago

Hello UK drivers! I personally have not driven in the UK in over 10 years! What's changed?

Hey everyone. I grew up and learned to drive in the UK, but I moved abroad in 2009. I haven't been back much since then and the last time I drove in the UK was early 2016.

I'm coming back in June to see family for a month and I've rented a car for the trip.

I'm curious about what might've changed over these last 10 years. I've seen some social media posts about the dreaded yellow box junctions and it seems like average speed cameras are much more prevalent these days. What else should I be aware of coming back to drive this summer?

Thanks so much!

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u/Turdoggen — 16 hours ago

What lane would you use?

I've had some confusion about what lane to use on this roundabout and feel like I may be in the wrong, so would love to see what others would do here. If you're coming from road A and aiming to exit at road B, would you be in the left or right lane?

u/LemonGraass — 18 hours ago
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Car insurance: do I need to declare a cycling accident that happened before I bought my car?

Long story short:

  • Moved to the UK (June 2025)
  • Got hit cycling on a zebra crossing (July 2025)
  • Solicitor A handling it (Sep 2025)
  • Bought car + insurance (Dec 2025)
  • Full UK driving license (Feb 2026)
  • Hit-and-run on my car (May 2026, minor damage, dashcam, NCD unaffected)
  • Now with solicitor B

While dealing with the hit-and-run, the cycling incident resurfaced.

Now I’m unsure about this:
Do I need to declare the cycling accident to my car insurer?

Solicitor A: “No, you weren’t driving.”
Insurer: “Yes, declare it + premium goes up (£600+).”

Spending a lot of time on this lately—just trying to understand what’s actually required.

### Additional info after the initial post ###

Additional info:

Initially picked insurer A but couldn’t complete payment. Turns out their system flagged an undeclared cycling accident and the quote went up by ~£1000.

I tried explaining it was a cycling incident, but they said it was already on record and the premium stands.

Ended up giving up and going with the current insurer B.

### Clarification from the current insurer B###

"This claim will need to be added to your policy. Even though this happened while you were cycling and before you owned a car, we still need to include any accidents or incidents from the last 5 years when setting up or reviewing your car insurance. This helps make sure your cover details are correct and avoids any issues later on."

" Since you did not declare this claim previously, this is something that would have to be updated on your policy in 7 days to keep your policy active until your expiry date. Any errors on a policy can lead to it being cancelled or treated as if it never existed. It can also lead to claims being rejected or not paid out in full. When a claim is added to the policy, we need to recalculate your price based on the level of risk linked to this claim. "

Unfortunately once you ask, the insurer knows and you have no other option.

### Why this cycling incident resurfaced ###

First time I’ve really tried to understand what actually counts as a “claim” and what happens if you don’t declare something relevant. Turns out the consequences can be pretty serious — even policy cancellation.

Asked my instructor, wasn’t sure either, so was basically told “ask the insurer.”

ChatGPT says it should be declared.

Still feels like a grey area depending on who you ask.

### The question that an insurer asks you ###

"Have you had any motor accidents, claims or losses in the last five years?

This is regardless of who/what was at fault or if a claim was made or not. If you don’t tell your insurer about previous accidents, claims or losses, your car insurance may not pay out if you make a claim"

So it seems in my case it counts as a claim—I was involved in a cycling incident where I am seeking compensation (via solicitor A) from the driver’s insurance.

### Update on hit-and-run

Askmid shows the hit-and-run car is no longer insured; Solicitor B confirmed that on the day of the incident, it was insured.

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u/Acceptable_Bat1404 — 21 hours ago
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City driving tips

Officially had my license for two months, and my car for one. I’ve only accidentally driven into Newcastle city centre once and since then I’ve been so apprehensive about going back because of the traffic and just how nervous I get in the city. Any tips would be greatly appreciated.

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u/Hairy-Lab-4307 — 20 hours ago
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Braking distances on motorways…

Why do people never follow safe braking distances? I don't see it discussed enough. You're not getting anywhere faster (and trust me i’m willing to go faster than you), you're just putting yourself and others at risk. I get its sometimes hard with the middle lane hoggers but please stop cutting into my lane then hitting the brakes, very poor driving.

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u/wassushxii — 1 day ago

Help me out here

Settle a debate please, would you say this is the correct lane usage for this roundabout? (Excuse my awful lines, I promise I drive better than I draw lol…unless I’m wrong with the way I interpret this roundabout 😆)

u/Secure_Milk1093 — 18 hours ago
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Middle od the night on M25 and 40mph limit...

No cars, nothing, empty road. But variable speed limit of 40 mph. What's the logic behind it escapes me...

u/Accurate-Sundae1744 — 1 day ago

I'm green, who has right of way? And yes I hate this junction

Currently messing with insurance after a collision, I am green we collided at blue, they had to cross several lanes to reach me my lane is marked, who has right of way?

edit: I should mention I was stopped/stopping just before the collision to let them pass but target fixation on there part maybe they turned into me slightly, front wheel was swapped by there drivers side bumper corner

edit edit: location is Burton on trent, newton road de15

u/Ill_Kick6124 — 1 day ago

Was i misadvised by my mechanic?

Forgive any noobish terminology in my post. I'm a real inexperienced, unknowledgeable driver when it comes to car faults and stuff, I've only been driving for 10 months or so.

Last week I was driving along and everything was fine, until i pulled away at some traffic lights and it felt like the engine just wasn't pulling as hard, the accelerator seemed less effective. I initially wondered if this was a recurrence of a fault i had experienced about 7 months ago where i had a siezed break caliper causing the break pad to prematurely wear out. (At the time I hadn't had the car or been driving long enough to have noticed that the handling was "different" to how it should have been so the brake pad wore right down) after a couple of minutes, an error appeared on the display saying there was an issue with the drivetrain.

We took the car to our mechanic who said the drivetrain message was meaningless and advised it was probably clogged fuel injectors and advised a long drive on our local high speed road at a lower gear than normal to clear the ports. I went for an 80 mile drive along a 60-70mph road (40 miles out and 40 miles back). This did NOT fix the issue, in fact, every time I hit any type of upward incline, the power in my car failed and I'd be trundling along at 30mph on the 70mph road with black smoke coming out my exhaust. I'd been told to expect smoke as the injector ports cleared.

I took it back to the mechanic the next day who said that loads of errors were flagging up when they plugged the car into their diagnostic thing and it might take a long time to figure out the cause. Today (6 days later) they've said the car's ECU is flooded with diesel. A quick look on Google says that this can cause drivetrain issues, which is exactly what my display message said, and the first thing you should do when this happens is to not turn the car on or drive it...and I was advised to go for a 1-1.5 hour drive! Furthermore, my searches show this is not a rare issue so I don't think it should have been out of the question for the mechanic to investigate a bit further into the error showing on my screen, but he seemed to have never heard of a drivetrain before and I am quite worried by all this.

I'm supposed to be driving 200+ miles in 3 days time to take all my family's luggage to London for a family holiday. Now I'm going to have to try and squeeze luggage for a family of 6 into a toyota aygo (my partners car)! And I have no idea when I'm going to get my car back.

u/ArcaneKatana — 19 hours ago