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This is my first time ever playing any Arkham game and I find this one very difficult. I've died multiple times and have gotten lost multiple times as well. About 1/3 way through the game.

I just finished replaying my favorite Batman Arkham game—Arkham Knight—for the 6th time, and now I’m going back through the others again. The Arkham games are just on a completely different level for me, and not even because I’m biased—I didn’t even like Batman before I got Arkham City for my 12th birthday.

No game has ever satisfied me on so many levels the way the Arkham series does, especially Knight.

Now that there are rumors about a new Arkham game possibly being in development, do you think Rocksteady can reach the level of the older games again? I often feel like when a franchise comes back after a long break, it loses some of the passion that made it special.

And how do you think it could improve—story, antagonist, and gameplay-wise?

Instead of an actual Asylum institution for psychology and mind for the insane villains i think they should've ditch the Arkham title cause most games have nothing to do with Arkham like Shadow, Knight, Origins, Origins Blackgate, City can be argued that its still set in Arkham but idk cause for me Arkham = the actual Asylum that why City was supposed to be called "Batman: Last Laugh" but i think they decided to go with the Arkham City title to not confuse people and make sure that people know that this is a sequel to Arkham Asylum but hey that just my opinion haha!

I kinda blame Arkham Shadow for this. Not in a critique way but in a "how could you do this to me" way. Like he has this horrible childhood where his father physically abuses him, his mother and sister leave him to deal with his father alone and apparently his father also had a duality disorder.

Then there's his friendship with Bruce. They were childhood best friends. Then when Harvey gets the acid thrown on him, their friendship gets destroyed once they became enemies as Batman and Two-Face. It's sad to see them go from childhood friends to mortal enemies. Even when Two-Face knows who Batman is in Arkham Knight, it doesn't really change anything so he maintains this hatred towards Bruce and still wants to kill him.

It's not just the Arkhamverse Two-Face I feel bad for. I also feel the same way about the BTAS version. The softie in me partly likes to imagine he someday can turn his life around and be good again but then I also know the Arkhamverse isn't big on happy endings. It's usually bittersweet at best. Not that I would expect them give us a light and happy ending. It's just sad that it can't be expected for some characters.

Arkham Asylum and City had a specific art style for its characters. Some people had slightly exaggerated facial features- whether they be eyes, noses, chins, or cheekbones. It was like everyone was 2-10% cartoon. Very subtle on major characters like Batman and Catwoman, and more noticeable on Gordon and a lot of tertiary NPCs and thugs.

Arkham Origins pretty much ditched this tinge-of-cartoon style (although the atmosphere is still fantastical at times) and changed a few character designs, and then Knight ran with that philosophy and changed the entire cast’s faces to varying degrees- well, unless you’re Aaron Cash.

Are you glad that they went with the full realism, or do you wish they’d kept it a little cartoonish? Or, do you wish they’d done something like Origins, where the facial proportions were 100% realistic but the world was kind of stylized? Aside from all of that, how about the redesigns?

Myself, I’d have preferred them to have kept the overall design philosophy of the first two. It just gives the whole world more of a sense of character, and I do think that Knight suffers a bit without it. And on the topic of redesigns, while I wish they hadn’t changed most of them for that game, I can concede that Gordon’s redesign was an improvement.

Out of these classic villains that never got a quest line in any of the games, do you feel like was the biggest loss.

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What do you all think?