r/WillTrent

I think i'm dropping the show, am I being unfair?

Honestly the shows premise hooked me so quicky but they've done things over and over that have led me to just be disappointed.

My first problem is Amanda Wagner and how they failed her charachter. There really wasnt any growth for her throughout the series. They hinted towards her being bi for 4 seasons before they finally had her in a same sex relationship (which was really bad and messy btw) and then they killed her off 2 episodes later not even finishing her charachter arc, idk its a little weird to me.

Second, the black woman named Cricket who is in season 2 episode 1. She died bc of a bomb but she would have been such an intresting love intrest for Will. So Will's love new intrest is played by Gina Rodriguez who is a racist actress... amazing!

The BIG reason:

Then we have season 4 episode 14 which I would call an absolute mess. You have a black women concerned about her son who has a medical history and she states that "doctors like you dont care about patients like me" (I'm paraphrasing a bit) which is her alluding to a true fact that there are white doctors who do not care about black patients.

Instead of properally adressing this, they make the mom follow the angry black women stereotype going insane and being rude to every character. When movies like John Q exist its upsetting to see a tv series take 10 steps back.

These arent really issues just things i do not like:

Seth is dead and i genuinely dont want to see Will and Angie together bc they are toxic together and its just not fun.

Im tried of everyones boyfriends being a secret criminal (now that I think about it thats just the black women, Faith and Amanda... huh)

Faithwood is probs not happening cuz they dont see. like interracial relationships (just making an educated guess)

Sometime i nitpick though and it is really cpol they have a very diverse cast but it's just been feeling off so pls let me know if u guys agree or think im being unfair.

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u/BrushThick9864 — 5 days ago
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Who else loved the ending montage? (Season finale)

I see a lot of hate for it but I loved it.

When they showed Angie in the hospital bed, her back to the baby while clutching Seth's ring my heart broke for her (obviously)

I see a lot of people saying they didnt like that rhey showed Will with the baby instead of Angie but I thought it was a really important scene, showing that she is going through grief and possible PPD and recovery but also showing Will's (and Nico's) immediate willingness to step up and not just care for the baby but bond with her too and I thought they showed it really well without having to piece it out over a few episodes next season.

I also appreciated it because given her relationship with her own mother and how Angie grappled with her pregnancy early on, then came to terms with it and eventuallt let herself be excited about it because with all that history + being thrown into this situation with her first full term pregnancy it gave more possibility for how she may react to parenthood.

I generally find pregnancy storylines boring and even 'car wreck on the way to delivery' is a bit trite but I think with her own familial relationships, not knowing how she might respond to her baby gave the storyline more depth because 'she had a baby and lost her husband but ultimately you know she'll be fine' just wasnt a feeling I had with Angie like I get with other shows who do that

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u/affectionateanarchy8 — 7 days ago
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I think the show is much better if Will & Angie are not together as a couple.

I think the show is stronger and better if Will and Angie aren’t together as a couple. They seem to heal better and progress better if they are simply friends, but have different romantic partners. I mean even Franklin told Angie that as long as she and Will were romantically involved neither one of them would be able to heal, the trauma bond between them would keep them from healing. I really like the show but if the writers put them back together, I don’t think it’s going to add depth to the show.

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u/the_dark_viper — 4 days ago
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What a fumble

I have no clue what they were thinking this season. To kill Amanda off like that, offscreen with some later flashes to the fight, was downright disrespectful for such a powerhouse of a character.

Then they wrap it all up the next episode, by having the woman whos amassed a supposed huge following, all of the sudden get super sloppy and lose all of her acolytes in the span of hours? And to kill Amanda right off the bat, but STILL keep Antonio alive????

I dunno, this just wasn't it, chief.

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u/ManOfMyWord96 — 2 days ago

Can anyone help me decide whether I should finish this season or quit the show with no spoilers please

I enjoyed the first few seasons - they were entertaining, quirky with a good storyline and relationships. I made it several episodes into this season and the show has gotten so dreary and depressing. All Will does it Angst about the boy that got shot last year. There is nothing fun or light hearted about it. I used to think of it more like high potential- but it’s just depressing now. Does it regain a more lighted hearted vibe as the season progresses or does it stay a downer.
Thanks

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u/jennifer123455 — 15 hours ago

I can't understand why the writers can't think of good plots instead of just killing everyone. It's so unrealistic. Do you know people who have lost every person in their life and it's on going? One tragedy after another. Is this the story of Job in liberal cop form? Is everyone else just crying on their couches? Whereas, I'm sitting there thinking, "that's it? just kill everyone? Another serial killer who perseverates on a cop- theme?" How many times have we seen that in cop shows, everytime? I'm Italian, I know a lot of city detectives. Next BBQ I'm going to ask if they've collared their serial killer stalker and how many cops/family died? This is entertainment? Building up a character to kill them is such a basic b1tch. I don't know if I'll have time for S5, I'm sure I've seen it before.

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u/speedymomi — 8 days ago

Stop with the trauma porn.

I’m done. Really don’t care if there’s another season. People with a lifetime of trauma can have fulfilling lives not marred by endless tragedies. Do better.

It’s too bad because the characters have depth and have been played beautifully by the cast.

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u/auroraaram — 4 days ago
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Franklin spoke directly to fans in the finale

When Ormewood asked him if the cop show he recommended was accurate, "Oh, god, no."

Y'all. They're not even trying. If that bothers you then there are soooo many other options out there.

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u/catlady9851 — 6 days ago

I’m late but (season finale)

Dudeeee it was such a missed opportunity to play isn’t she lovely by Stevie wonder when Edie was born. I mean I assume there was copyright issues but it would’ve been so good, because Seth had mentioned it earlier in the show. Maybe it would’ve been too on the nose but idk. I haven’t read much of the other threads on here but I know a lot of ppl are disappointed about the finale. I loved it, it sucks that Seth passed and Angie has another thing to overcome. But I loved that everyone was happy at the end and most importantly together. Will was too alone this season. The only thing I wish was that we saw Faith and Ormey during the last montage sequence because you can’t tell me they weren’t there helping when Angie was going through it! Oh and I was an Angie and Will truther but I think it would be cool if they were friends who just raise a kid together. If they end up together later on naturally like in a series finale time skip it would be cool. But I don’t think it should be forced and if they end up with other partners I’m fine with that too. Anyway that’s my rant, love to hear anyone else’s thoughts.

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u/alwayssnervous — 4 days ago

Still love the show but I'm disappointed with the finale

Many people said Seth would die and I had a feeling it was going to happen after reading that so much. But to see it happen so soon after Amanda...it felt so mean to do to the characters and to the fans. I think Angie is another tragic character that deserves some happiness. They stole that from her quickly. The pregnancy went on for months. The death took a matter of moments.

I'm glad she has her baby but 😩 She deserved her husband too. And after Seth died, they zoomed through her grieving. It was way too fast. I thought season 5 might handle her grief and show how Will steps in to help, being "Uncle Will". I'm disappointed with how they handled it all. It's already over with.

I'm glad that we at least end the season with the team back together, but it still feels wrong without Amanda. I'm going to miss getting new episodes and I look forward to season 5. I just wish I'd enjoyed the finale more.

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u/sweetmissjaye — 7 days ago

I know I will probably get some hate for this. But I loved the episode. It got the team back together and on a mission. We get back to the old/original dynamics. This show is awesome. I absolutely don’t understand all the hate it gets on this sub. The little flash forward watching Edie grow. Will and Angie back as a team, whichever relationship direction the writers send them, I’m in! Can’t wait!

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u/iamamomandproud — 8 days ago

I got spoilers on the last three major plot developments because members of this sub are some of the most clueless and inconsiderate fans of a show. Do better.

Not everyone is in your time zone. Not everyone has network tv. Not everyone watches immediately.

Yes, I left the sub, but reddit still shows me the messages anyway as "interests" so now I have to actually mute and block the whole thing.

And, most ironically, this post got blocked out because I used the word spoilers. So irritating.

Edit to add: I DO avoid subs when I know I haven't watched the episodes. I think most people do, but it shows in your feed. I suppose its a good reason to do a reddit cleanse.. just stay off the whole internet. Although I'm not so obsessed with any show that its that serious, its just the principal of it. People need to think about others.

End of rant.

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u/Jumpy-Fault-1412 — 8 days ago

Prediction for next season based on the books

The writers needed to make Seth a temporary character to make way for Sara Linton, an ER physician who eventually becomes Will's wife. On the show, Angie is a sympathetic character. In the books, she's pretty awful and makes Sara's life miserable. I think the writers needed to make Angie's life fall apart so she will relapse, lash out, and become a foil to Sara and a potential antagonist. I hope I am wrong because I love show Angie.

Also, the writers had no good reason to take out Amanda. That was a shitty, cheap, and lazy thing to do to drive the plot.

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u/HeidiDover — 7 days ago

Still don’t get why he killed the workers and Lucy

As in what was the reasoning or the history to his crimes and why did he kill Lucy? Because she was pregnant and would have stopped doing the work

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u/RhubarbFederal1885 — 3 days ago

WHAT DA ACTUAL PHUK?!?!?!?!?

We just started liking Seth.....WHY?????????

I'm just now watching the episode & I need somebody to help me not cry.

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u/Money_Size_255 — 5 days ago