r/ToddintheShadow

Pinkerton is in my opinion Weezer's best album. Still, I would argue it was also their trainwreckord. When released, it flopped, was trashed by critics and killed all the momentum Weezer had after the success of the Blue Album. And sure, Pinkerton soon became a very beloved album, and Weezer made hits after, but it definitely changed things. But it is still an incredible record, among the best the alt rock genre ever put out. So I was wondering, can you think of any similar exemple?

Stephen Sanchez (“until I found you” 2021) I like him he’s just a cute little 60’s homage act

Talking about the beef obviously made him look like a doofus, but ignoring it would have made him feel fake... what would have been the best direction possible for this thing?

I'll start: The Human League's Trainwreckord, Crash.

You have an adult contemporary ballad (Human) about cheating with not-really-good lyricism carried by some gorgeous production from Janet Jackson's collaborators, Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis. It reaches #1 on the Hot 100. And then you buy the album because you love then song and then realize that the whole album is filled with The Human League trying to make late-80s R&B, including a misguided attempt at using AAVE.

The first time I heard that bridge in Down With The Sickness I laughed my face off, I could tell it was trying to be edgy and shock the listener but it was so phony that I couldn’t take it seriously AT ALL.

MJ and all of his pets, Iggy Pop and His Cockatoo, MC Hammer and his horse Lite Light, Slash and his snakes, Tyga and his Tiger Maverick, Vanilla Ice and his kangaroo, Big Boi and his Owl's Hootie Hoo, Hoodini, Tula and Simon

I wanna know what y'all think is the worst Drake album. For me nothing will come close as worthless and as disgusting as Her Loss. The production here is amateurish, both Drake and 21 Savage are on autopilot, and the lyrics are ranging from being pissy to just misogynistic. I don't know why people prefer this over Honestly, Nevermind because at least that album was interesting.

Lars Ulrich: People say he can't keep time on the drums and call him the worst drummer in metal, as well as the whole Napster thing (which Todd himself pointed out)

Courtney Love: Her trashy behaviour, insults towards other musicians, her overprotectiveness and supposed leeching of her husband's legacy, and rumored bad parenting, such as consuming heroin while pregnant.

John Lennon: Smacked girlfriend Cynthia across the face once when they were teenagers, people claim he abandoned his first son, Julian, and is called a communist for writing "Imagine", which is a song people have called one of the worst OAT.