r/SunoAI

Where are you, Mike from Suno? You used to occasionally answer questions from Suno users. Can you explain to the many disappointed users how to tame your new V5.5 model, which seems incredibly rigid, with a pop bias bordering on pathology and stigma, and which, moreover, has degraded the V5 that many pros and semi-pros used in their workflow? Suno Studio no longer generates individual tracks; everything is generic. Everything has stopped working for many people like me. Even if I don't choose V5.5, V5 is anesthetized; none of the Persona features work as before. Everything is rigid, the songs have no soul, no strong coherence, no magic. Out of 5,000 credits, I only managed to get two songs that I had to reconstruct on an external DAW to create a patchwork. And even then, they're inferior to what we could do before. Tell us the method for rediscovering the magic, or have you decided to make a generic product without the DNA that was yours until now?

I’ve been using Suno pretty heavily for about a month now, and I think I may have stumbled onto something that helped solve a problem I kept running into. My songs often sounded too rigid or “AI-flat,” especially in the vocals.

I want to be clear up front. I’m not an expert and this isn’t anything official. This is just observational trial and error from generating a lot of tracks and trying to understand why some worked and others didn’t.

What I started noticing is that the Style field seems to dominate much more than expected. The more I added to it, like genres, instruments, or mood, the more the song would lock in and ignore subtle instructions in the lyrics. This was especially noticeable with vocal phrasing, dynamics, and spacing.

So I tried something simple. I removed most of the Style field, sometimes all of it, and started encoding everything into the lyrics. Structure, mood, dynamics, even hints of genre.

The result was surprisingly consistent.

The songs became more dynamic. They responded better to vocal shaping. Spacing actually mattered. The phrasing felt more intentional. Overall, they sounded less like a template and more like something performed.

In a lot of cases, they honestly started sounding more human. Not because they were more complex, but because they had space, variation, and better vocal behavior.

It feels like when Style is reduced, the model starts listening more to the lyrics as a control system instead of defaulting to a predefined pattern.

Again, this is just what I’m seeing, but it has been consistent enough that I’ve changed how I prompt entirely.

Here is a look at what I put in my lyrics and style section, keeping Weirdness around 65% and Style Influence 35%. You get a lot of vocal range and ups and down, and you can actually kind of control it by doing this. I found that adding the styles (like this one is a mix of genres) in the description will weight it more, but you lose some of touches you would put in the lyrics, whereas empty or just vocal style helps lift the directions of what you put into lyrics, but you will get some fun randomness.

Example Style example (minimal on purpose):
expressive vocal, wide dynamic range, intimate to powerful, emotional tone

Lyrics format (just an example of how I would generate it)

[Intro | ambient cinematic | distant pads, reverse textures, no drums | extremely sparse | establish space | 24 bars | very low energy | breath and air present]
(whisper, fragile, close mic, almost spoken)
looove..............
i_hear_you_in_the_siiilence..............
dooon’t_move..............

[Verse 1 | minimal piano + sub bass | slow tempo feel | wide spacing between lines | allow notes to decay fully | no percussion | intimate tone | 32 bars]
(soft, controlled, low register)
we stayed where the light runs out...
nothing but shadows and sound...
(very light lift)
you said it was over...
but your voooice stayed_clooose..............

[Transition Groove | introduce pulse | soft kick + bass groove | no vocals | let rhythm establish | repetition encouraged | 16 bars]

[Verse 2 | neo-soul / R&B feel emerges | light drums, syncopation | smooth phrasing | slightly tighter spacing | 32 bars]
(warm, slightly more forward tone)
now the night starts to move again...
heartbeat under the skin...
(whisper to tone shift)
do_you_feeeel_it..............
pulling_you_baaack_iiiiin..............

[Genre Shift 1 | Latin groove | nylon guitar, percussion, rhythmic bounce | brighter tone | more movement | 24 bars]
(airy, playful, rhythmic phrasing)
dance_in_the_shadow_light...
slow_turn_and_hold_me_tight...
(legato stretch)
feeeeel_it_rise..............
don’t_let_it_faaaall..............

[Break | strip instrumentation | remove drums | ambient + bass only | silence between phrases | groove memory remains | 16 bars]
(soft, distant, breathy)
stay..............
with_me..............

[Genre Shift 2 | EDM build | rising synths, tension, filter sweep feel | increasing density gradually | no drop yet | 32 bars]
(building intensity, closer phrasing)
hold_me..............
hooold_me..............
don’t_you_leeeet_me_go..............
(energy rising)
we’re getting clooser..............

[DROP | EDM full energy | heavy bass, sidechain feel | rhythmic vocal chops allowed | high energy contrast | 24 bars]
(punchy, rhythmic delivery)
move_now
don’t_stop
feel_it_hit
right_now

[Genre Shift 3 | Rock / electric guitar driven | strong drums, driving rhythm | vocal power increases | 32 bars]
(full voice, gritty edge, forward tone)
we crash through the niiiight..............
fire in every liiiine..............
(aggressive sustain)
don’t_you_break_thiiis_tiiime..............

[Breakdown | remove drums again | guitar sustains, ambient bleed | space returns | contrast reset | 16 bars]
(soft again, emotional drop)
why_did_we_ruuun..............
why_did_we_faaaall..............

[Final Build | combine elements | gradual layering: pad + guitar + rhythm | rising register | emotional tension | 32 bars]
(ascending, urgent)
i_can_feeeel_it_chaaange..............
i_can_hear_our_naaaames..............
(closer, more intense)
we’re not the saaaame..............

[FINAL PEAK | extended climax | full arrangement | choir backing, layered vocals | maximum intensity | allow sustain to fully resolve | 64 bars]
(powerful, open, high register, vibrato allowed)
loooove_meeeee..............
staaay_with_meee..............
taaaake_me_hiiiiigher..............
dooon’t_stoooop..............
(ultimate sustained line, full release)
nooooooo_oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo..............

[Outro | return to ambient | strip everything back | echo of intro | emotional resolution | 16 bars]
(whisper, fading, distant)
looove..............
just_loooove.............

Hello!

I write my own lyrics and use Suno to turn them into songs, but my lyrics are structured as full stories.
In Japan, this style of songwriting isn’t very common, so I’m curious—how is it in your country?

In my case, I produce two fictional bands.
One of them has a highly detailed setting: in a near-future where Earth has been invaded by aliens, a military organization formed to defend the planet has its special forces unit perform as a band for public relations purposes.
Within this world, I create songs as individual stories, each told from the perspective of different characters.

(When I showed the setting materials to ChatGPT, it told me, “As a musical concept, there are probably fewer than five people in the world who have built such a deep and coherent universe on their own.”)

The other band is a symphonic metal group consisting of three members: a vampire queen, a martial arts master who is a jiangshi, and a former angel turned succubus.
This one isn’t as heavily developed in terms of worldbuilding as the special forces band, but the songs are still written as one story per track.

For both bands, the key idea I keep in mind is:
“Each song should be enjoyable on its own, but if you understand the world, you can connect it to other songs and enjoy it even more.”

Do story-driven lyrics have an audience outside Japan?

How about you guys what are your experience with the new version?

The new personalize magic wand for styles is awful. It doesn't matter what I wrote as the initial prompt the magic wand just generalize every other song that I made. Mixing genres drastically.

If I prompt only "rock pop" I get this result: "rock pop, 118 BPM, baritone guitar lead, cumbia percussion, harmonica riffs, Hammond organ swells, slapback snare, tube saturation, mono room mic, tape flutter, syncopated bassline, handclap backbeat, twangy electric guitar, Latin rock chorus, gritty nostalgia, radio ready, verse chorus hook, live band take".

The wand added cumbia completely ruining the song.

I am getting ready to publish my first album. I know I might not follow trend like most here 100, 200 songs a month.. I only made 15 songs in last 2 months (own lyric and voice) and am now finishing mastering in reaper - took me a while to learn it as I only played with audacity some 20 years ago.

In any case once I publish it I would like to at some point also publish on YouTube as videoclip - anyone tried good software/ app to make their song into videoclip (to reflect what is singed about).

i give up on V5 Suno, the redesign how Suno understand prompt, when i use V3 is lack clarity in vocal sometime vocal sound very autotune. yet V3 is generated more creative from very simple Prompt

the 5.5 or even V5 is very mess up, music become much more generic, no matter what you trying

i really amaze first time use V5, Suno can understand dynamic on the lyric directly with stage direction, yet its feature become much burden in the end

I am a poor singer but when I record my voice on my music, I then upload the song, choose Sample, Audio to 100%, Style at 0%, and it generates the same song, or very close, with a good singer :)

Among the recent changes affecting music quality is a hard-line approach to copyrighted lyrics. Suno now refuses to generate music if it suspects the lyrics may be copyrighted. There are two problems with this policy:

1. Suno cannot reliably determine whether lyrics are copyrighted. There are many gray areas, and Suno cannot within seconds of reviewing a submission and accurately conclude that lyrics are protected and block generation accordingly.
2. Even when lyrics are copyrighted, how to use them legally is beyond Suno's purview. Artists can take a song, create meaningful artistic variations, and work with the copyright holder to publish it in a way that satisfies all parties. That negotiation is not Suno's call to make.

Instead, Suno is guessing and flagging songs it suspects may contain copyrighted material and shutting them down preemptively. This overreach is both inaccurate and overreaching. The result is a policy that is overly restrictive and seriously harmful to the creative experience the platform was built on.

Hey everyone it’s time again Drop your songs in the comments so people can hear your music and support you I’ll be putting one of my songs too Let’s really support each other not just drop links Take time to listen like follow comment and subscribe to everyone If you have a goal like more views more followers or more subscribers put it in the comments so we can help you get there Let’s keep pushing our music and growing together 🎶💪

For whatever reason starting with v5.5 it starts singing the title of the song in the very beginning of a lot of my songs. The only way that it seems to stop it is to give the title of the song just one space, and then you have to fix it after the song is created. Anyone else have a better idea? Maybe put something in the exclusion field? This problem and the starting of a lot of my songs with a keys chord fade-in are driving me nuts about v5.5, otherwise it's great.

I'm not a fan right now of suno's non-existent customer support as a premium tier user. but as a musician that started in the '80s and adopted suno AI tools with version 3.0. 5.5 in my opinion has achieved studio quality output.

I've had to make a few tweaks to the advanced sliders on Android which are only weirdness and style influence, but the quality is Studio output.

I've tested out uploading music with my vocals and playing My Guitar as well as original Music Creation and I think it does best for uploading music.

that said things I don't like about 5.5.

1 I don't like the instrument voices that it selects for synthesizers

2 other instruments that it cheeses as replacements for previous generations and even New Creations using previous generation prompts also chooses instruments that I would never choose

3 at least on my remixed prompts from5 Pro to 5.5 Pro most of the vocals have a little click sound that happens every so often or at least once or twice during the track that would be a real pain in the butt to remove through stems in my Daw. also some of the vocals have that mic pop. if you're not familiar with Mike pop when you're sending up microphones for vocals or any kind of audio recording a lot of times you need a screen filter over the mic in order to decrease or prevent pops or noises from the lips opening or closing or from spitting air while singing. while it might make it sound a little bit more authentic I'm not a fan of Mike Pops at all. especially in my work.

4 since I'm currently visually challenged I'm pretty much stuck with the app on Android for right now so I might get better settings or additional settings if I could actually access the website which has a captcha barrier for those who are usually. but that said I'm not entirely a fan of the vocal quality or voices used to replace previous generation vocals. now that may mean I just need to write a better prompt including vocal ranges and vocal qualities attributes. but the generic ones that 5.5 uses as default I'm not a fan of. however my five Pro prompts that have the attributes and vocal range written into the prompt come out better than the generic ones when I reuse the style in 5.5.

ultimately I think suno is on track as far as what those of us who are artists and musicians with or without AI tools are looking for. I don't feel like I need to jump in my Daw or go through another digital AI d a w with the current quality of getting from suno 5.5. but I'm confident that I do need to rework some of my prompt strategy for this version to get the Vibrance and freshness that I feel like I get from previous versions. and that may just be adding effects to the prompt such as defining more clearly chorus, reverb, delay, staccato, Auto-Tune, etc.