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Sigenergy DC Charger Price Drop

I haven’t seen it mentioned, so I thought I’d share.

I recently asked my battery installer for a quote on the AC charger, thinking the cost of the DC would be prohibitive. They quoted $3,100, which seems very high. Their explanation was that because my switchboard was on the far side of the house from the garage, that cabling added a significant amount.

They suggested the 12kW DC charger instead, seeing as my battery is in the garage and the cost had recently dropped about 40%. They quoted $4K (installed), which would be a no-brainer for me compared to the AC option.

I also asked for a quote on the 25kW charger, which was $5,500. Also tempting.

I am wondering if the prices may come down further. Also conscious that the energy crisis could push prices up in the medium term.

Keen to hear anyone else’s insights.

ETA: we’ve already had our battery installed. I’m sure prices are generally better if you get the charger installed along with the battery.

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u/nicely_inconspicuous — 4 days ago

Need advice on how to expand

My question is similar to some of the other recent posts but didn't want to hijack them, I have 15kw solar on a 15kw 3ph inverter, gateway and 16kwh of batteries on my house. I want to add more panels with a standalone Sig inverter and have a couple of options but unsure of what the capabilities and limitations of the Sig system are:

  1. Detached garage with a 20a 3ph supply, can I add another 8-10kw of solar and 3ph Sig inverter using the existing supply instead of a dedicated cable back to the gateway? Dedicated ethernet is available.

  2. Sleepout with 2ph supply cable from gateway but only 1ph used, can I run a single phase inverter on the unused phase but sharing the neutral? I assume the 3ph house inverter will work to balance out the phase loading based on the grid CTs? Only shared ethernet available from here but wifi to both.

Thanks

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u/Mighty_Mighty_Moose — 3 days ago
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Sigenergy/intelligent go

Have installed sigenergy + intelligent go tariff for EV. Using sig AI which is doing well - with the exception of handling the extra octopus intelligent slots

As i currently set the tariff plan in sigen manually, and there's no integration for this intelligent tariff, for the hours (2330-530 offpeak) any extra window put in by octopus will not register - meaning when the charger pulls electric then, the system will dump the battery to power it.

I've managed to get all the tariffs into home assistant, including when octopus adds new windows - however cant see how i can automate the writing of the new windows into the sigen app. Anyone dealt with this?

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u/Prestigious_Sea6157 — 4 days ago

Lost Internet, App Unavailable?

So we’ve just lost NBN and I wanted to check the Sigenstor to see the battery level. Im on the same Wireless network but the app is showing stale data and nothing for the current usage and battery level.

Surely I should be able to direct connect to the system without internet?

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u/punishingwind — 2 days ago

SIGENERGY AND SHELLY

Looking for someone who has Shelly installed to control hot water tank. We have battery but no gateway so our option to control hot water tank is either contactor with timer or Shelly. I have asked our installers for Shelly but they now saying they will not install it as there are issues with it and they can only do timer. Anyone has issues with Shelly?

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u/Ok_Understanding4699 — 4 days ago

I’ve run into a bit of a design limitation with my Sigenergy setup and curious how others have solved it.

My SigenStor stack is installed outside under a pergola (which I actually think was the right call by the installer), but it’s roughly ~7m away from the carport. Once you factor in the way the DC cable has to route down and out of the stack and then back up, you realistically lose a couple of metres straight away.

From what I can tell:

The DC module only comes in 5m, 7m, or 10m cable options

And 10m is basically the max supported length
Which means depending on where the charge port is on the car… I’m right on the edge (or over).

The frustrating part is even if I tried to go down a custom route, I don’t think it would physically fit anyway once you account for routing, bends, and slack. So it’s not just a “buy a longer cable” problem.

I’ve also spoken directly with Sigenergy about this:

They confirmed they don’t offer longer cables because voltage drop becomes too large

I asked whether they’d consider a DC wall outlet / pass-through system (so you could run your own compliant cabling through the house and terminate closer to the carport)

They said it was an interesting idea and something they’d consider for future products

I’m trying to future-proof for V2H/V2G because that’s honestly one of the main reasons I went Sigenergy in the first place. The idea of using the EV as part of the home energy system is too good to miss just because of physical layout.

So I’ve got a few questions for people who already have this setup:

Has anyone exceeded the 10m limit in any way (extensions, custom cabling, etc)?

Did the system accept it or just refuse to operate?

Has anyone relocated or repositioned the module after install to make it work?

Any creative solutions? (running through walls, conduit paths, mounting tricks, etc)

Or did you just give up and go AC charger instead?

I’ve seen one example where someone drilled through a wall and routed the cable through just to make the reach work, which is kind of where my head is going too, but even so I don’t think the route would make a difference.

Right now my options seem to be:

Try to engineer a better cable path

Relocate hardware (painful)

Go AC charger and lose V2H (feels like a waste long term)

Keen to hear what others have actually done in the real world.

u/muffinman8519 — 13 days ago

But confused. I just switched to globird super hero, and now have VPP Scheduling-globird set as the energy profile. I thought globird vpp allowed you to maintain control, but now I cant control any import export settings. I didn't ask for the vpp critical peak export so they shouldn't have done this should they?

u/slartybartvart — 8 days ago

Hi, I have solar, 20kwh battery and an Evnex E2 EV charger. I made the mistake of leaving the car plugged in after charging from excess solar then once the charging schedule kicked in on the charger, it dumped the whole battery into the car and then started drawing from the grid. Subsequently I had an empty battery in the morning. I dont want to do that again particularly at this time of the year when it is not til after 9am that I start generating enough solar.

After discussing with Evnex, to avoid this i need to rewire my charger to put it on the other side of the gateway. Not prepared to do that given the amount of work and so the other option is to change the Evnex and put in a Sigenergy 7kw AC charger.

Does anyone have one of these and are you able to charge your ev at night without draining the battery. A google of this seems like I can get what I want with the Sigenergy charger buy changing the settings in the app. That sounds right given the integration but obviously I cant see these settings because I dont have the charger.

Cheers.

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u/Griffen9-5 — 10 days ago

Second inverter + solar

Currently have solar and battery on my house! Sig gateway with 10kw inverter + 48kw battery.

I’m looking to add solar on my garage. With another sig inverter (0 export) and maybe 1x8kw battery in the garage. I mainly want it for the extra solar as my house roof is full already

Only this is there is only 1 conduit buried between house and garage. Can’t get a second cable to the garage and back to the gateway. Can I put the inverter on the sub board in the garage and get it to communicate with the first inverter on the house?

u/jimmowalsh — 3 days ago

Import more than inverter

Help me understand how my inverter imports more than 10kw when is powering the battery and the house, but won't do the same when the ev dc charger is connected. The evdc charger starts working to 10kw only when the battery is full, but can do 12.5kw when battery boost is enabled.

Any way I can have both maxed out at the same time? 10kw going to the battery and 12.5kw (or the maximum per single phase) to the evdc.

My setup:

10kw inverter

32kw battery

12.5kw evdc

10kw solar

u/thewall1919 — 6 days ago

It’s happening a few times most days. Should I contact Endeavour Energy in Sydney for help? What causes such high voltage on grid?

u/scienceguy0077 — 12 days ago

I’ve got a Sig energy battery and want to weld using grid power instead of draining the battery. I tried setting battery reserve to 100%, but it pulled grid power to charge. I just want the solar to charge the battery while the house runs on the grid during welding. Is there a clean way to switch to grid-only?

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u/Michmuck — 10 days ago

I currently have an issue with my system where it will not take power from the grid despite being in command charging - grid first mode.  I have restarted the system a number of times, and it would seem the only time that it will draw power from the grid is when the system is off.  Remote EMS is set to Command Charging PV first.  The Home Assistant Modbus data is below.  I can see no settings that may be causing this, it seems to be an issue with the system. Any Ideas please folks?

u/Illustrious-Crew-191 — 12 days ago

Hey guys, just wanting to get some clarification on the correct wiring for a Sigenergy system.

I believe the correct method is:

• MSB main switch load → Gateway Grid port

• Gateway Non-Backup port → Non-essential loads

• Gateway Backup port → Backed-up loads

However with this configuration, isolating the Gateway also cuts power to the non-essential loads. What is the recommended approach for maintaining power to those loads during a Gateway isolation or maintenance window?

Initially, I thought it should be wired as

• MSB main switch load → Gateway Grid port

• MSB main switch load → Gateway Non-Backup port

• Gateway Backup port → Backed-up loads

But I’ve been told this method gives inaccurate consumption readings

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u/secondaryuser2 — 13 days ago

Hi there,

I'm looking at having a Sigenstor system installed soon and was wondering if there are any specific features or requests I should be making come the install (backup/ smart port use etc...)

For context, I have decided to do away with gas altogether and have opted to go all electric. I currently use an induction cooktop, have just had a Reclaim heat pump system installed and intend on purchasing an EV at some point in the future.

The attached image is the proposed system. It doesn't include the solar panels already on the roof which will be reused and integrated.

u/Minute-Doctor-1779 — 7 days ago

Have 40kw battery and a 12.5kw DC charger system and thought I was good with the AI system to ensure I have battery for peak morning/afternoon times and also some charge in my car.

Turns out the AI is all but useless, over had it running a few months so assume that would be enough time for it to adjust its settings.

So to find a better option I found Predbat for Home Assistant and wondered if anyone else is running it to control the battery instead of Sigen AI.

I have it in monitor mode at the moment with some additional sensors before I allow it to control my system. My plan is to let it monitor and see if it is smarter than the Sig AI.

Anyone able to comment on Predbat and if it is better than the Sig AI before I custom create something that will ensure I'm not paying peak rates for no reason.

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u/Whiteyoboy — 6 days ago

Does anyone know if the 25kw DC charger will be limited by singlephase? What I mean is if I have a 25kw DC charger, will it charge at the full 25kw rate if my battery is empty, i.e. only from the grid? I currently have a 8kw inverter and the batteries charge at a max of 8kw becuase of it. I only have 6.6kw of solar so just wondering if theres a point in going for the 25kw DC charger with my current setup.

Edit: Thanks for the replies. If 25kw isnt possibel, would it make sense to get a seperate 7kw home charger? Would that mean that during off peak/free energy periods, I can top up my home battieries from the grid whiles charging my car (theoretically pulling 8kw to charge batteries + 7kw to charge my car), but have the home charger pull from the battery during peak hours if needed?

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u/ChaosMaster108 — 13 days ago