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Rosita and Gunter from Sing

In the movie Sing Rosita's husband is wildly disassociated and clueless to the going ons of his family. So much so that rosita successful sets up a Rube Goldberg machine to take care of her daily responsibilities and he doesn't even notice.

Rosita starts a performance relationship with a stranger and begins spending more time with Gunter then her family.

My theory is that Rosita absolutely is cucking her husband with Gunter.

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u/Astros_alex — 3 days ago
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Conspiracy: the downfall of a character in Julia Donaldson/Axel Scheffler books

After a few thousand renditions each of the (excellent) 'Tabby McTat' and 'Whale and the Snail' I'm convinced that the at times unnecessarily harsh teacher in 'Whale and the Snail' (2003) had found times hard and is the unhoused lady under the bridge in 'Tabby McTat' (2009).

My significant other does not buy into this conspiracy/does not care

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u/TabbyMcTatConspiracy — 10 days ago
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Wait… if Donkey transformed in Shrek 2… what happened to Dragon??

In Shrek 2, when Shrek and Donkey drink the “Happily Ever After” potion:

  • Shrek becomes human
  • Fiona also transforms because she’s his true love
  • Donkey becomes a horse

The rule is:

👉 your true love is affected too

So… Donkey loves Dragon.

Which means:

👉 Dragon should have transformed as well.

BUT we never see her during that time.

And here’s the crazy part:

👉 Dragon was pregnant at that moment.

So what happened?

  • Did she become some kind of “idealized” version of a dragon?
  • A unicorn? (kind of the “beautiful magical counterpart”)
  • Did the babies get affected too?

Has anyone ever thought about this? 😄

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u/Pale-Lingonberry2576 — 13 days ago

In the night garden theory

I see my kids watching this show all the time. The show seems to be bookended by segments in which Iggle Piggle (the little blue retarded looking character), goes to sleep in his little sail boat as the narrator tells us that he is deep in the ocean and far away from land. The narrator also tells us in a reassuring voice that he is "safe".

The shows intro: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQ5ku4z1pjs

Does that boat look like it has enough provisions to get him going wherever it is that he is going? He doesn't even have a second blanket, and uses his sail as one at night.

So what my theory is, is that Iggle Piggle is dying from dehydration and the events of each episode take place in his mind. As his boat floats about the ocean, the stars start turning into flowers and shit, and he imagines himself in this happy garden with his friends, who i'm not too sure ever existed in the first place.

The ending is what really puts the nail in the coffin. The reassuring narrator (edit: Who I just found out is Derek Jacobi... aka THE MASTER!) comes back to tell everyone to go to sleep, and that Iggle Piggle isn't asleep and that it is time for him to go. As seen by this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avk02oFGG_k), kids react to this ending poorly.

Kids are very emphatic, and understand what is going on sometimes better than adults, which is why they get upset at this ending... they know Iggle Piggle is dying and he is most likely dead by the end of the episode. They might not understand why they are getting upset, but for some reason, they know that this ending is upsetting and wrong.

Iggle Piggle then floats off into the darkness of the ocean, "asleep".

u/VoidRiftX-18542 — 9 days ago

Regular Fan theories won’t take this so I came here

my theory on Marty Robbins’ running gun is that the running gun is the ranger from big iron no other jobs would take him so he took the gun from Texas Red and fled to Amarillo Texas (hence the matching 20 notches) and he had to become a hired gun in order to make enough money to survive and a bounty hunter came to take him and this time Texas Red’s killer was the one that was too slow to draw his gun

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u/Thehuntinggunsmith — 5 days ago
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Why did Grimm curse himself to be unable to wear shoes?

Here's a hypothesis and headcanon about Grimm from Sentouin Hakenshimasu.

The other day, in a debate with a friend, She asked me about Grimm's curse, and I told him that Grimm mentions it twice in the novel, but Rokugo either didn't pay attention or didn't care. My friend says that even if She didn't pay attention, it must be noted, just like Aqua is mentioned by Tilis even though Rokugo didn't pay attention.

That's why the omnipresent first-person past tense format takes me out of the movie.

What I'm getting at is, as far as we know, Grimm lost her ability to wear shoes when facing her greatest rival. Who is his greatest rival?

My headcanon is that Grimm ran into that childhood friend she liked, the one who had married another woman, and bought his wife some shoes. Grimm, in one of her frequent fits of rage, said to her, "Oh. You like shoes so much? Well, you'll never wear them again."

And then the curse rebounded. I still don't have enough evidence to prove whether the success rate of curses isn't pseudo-random, as Grimm claims, but rather that, besides the appreciation of the offering, it also depends on the intention.

This is already a fanfic, but Grimm starting with "About a while ago" and then saying "a few years ago" suggests Grimm is in denial or ashamed of her age. I think that in the novel, Grimm actually tells Rokugo her age off-screen, and Rokugo feels embarrassed that She's acting that way at her age.

My headcanon is that Grimm is nearly 80 years old.

u/YouthAlarmed3563 — 25 days ago
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Zootopia 2 implies there was an animal messiah. What species was he?

In Zootopia 2, a character named Jesus helps the main characters. Jesus is a popular name in latin countries, which is the joke, but latin countries are predominantly Christian, hence the popularity. This got me thinking, was there an animal messiah? If so, what species? Does that mean there was an animal Spanish inquisition? The questions get worse from there...

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u/extra_croutons — 1 month ago

true ending

The Real Stranger Things Ending — And Why Vecna Actually Won

A theory by Josh

Everyone has heard of Conformity Gate. The secret episode, the hidden clues, the D&D books spelling out "X A LIE." Most people have written it off as cope — Netflix confirmed there is no secret episode and the Duffer Brothers said the show is done.

But here's the thing. I don't think there's a secret episode either.

I think the Duffer Brothers deliberately wrote TWO endings into Season 5 — a happy one for casual viewers and a devastating one hiding in plain sight for anyone paying close enough attention. And I think I've found every piece of it.

The Duffer Brothers said in interviews that no one had guessed the real ending. After everything you're about to read — I think I know why.

The Foundation — Conformity Gate Is Half True

The Conformity Gate theory gets one thing right and one thing wrong.

Wrong: There is no secret ninth episode.

Right: The happy ending is an illusion.

But it wasn't Vecna who created the illusion. It was Kali. And she didn't do it against Eleven's will.

She did it with her.

Kali — The Piece Everyone Forgot

Kali has always been the most underutilised character in the show. She shows up in one episode in Season 2, teaches Eleven to weaponise her anger, and disappears. Fans wrote her off as a dead end. The Duffers brought her back in Season 5 and people still treated her as a side character.

But think about what Kali actually is.

Her power is creating illusions. Incredibly detailed, personalised, emotionally targeted illusions that are indistinguishable from reality. She can make an entire room of people see something that isn't there. She can make them feel it too.

Now scale that power up. Give her a partner with the most raw psychic ability ever seen in the show.

Give her Eleven.

"Our Brother" — The Line That Changes Everything

At a key moment in the finale, Kali refers to Henry/Vecna as "our brother" while talking to Eleven.

Not "my brother." Not "your brother." Our.

That one word does two things simultaneously.

First, it tells us that Kali never truly severed her emotional connection to Henry despite spending years hunting him for revenge. He is still family to her. That bond never broke — she just buried it.

Second, and more importantly, it pulls Eleven into that family framing deliberately. Kali is not just describing Henry. She is making an argument. She is saying: we are all the same, we all came from the same place, we are all family. Including Eleven. Including Vecna.

Kali was not brought back in Season 5 as a fighter. She was brought back as the one person who could convince Eleven to make an impossible choice. Because Eleven trusts her completely. Eleven would see through Vecna in a second. But she would never question her sister.

Vecna did not manipulate Eleven directly. He sent Kali. That was always the plan.

Why Eleven Would Actually Do This

This is the part that makes the theory work. Eleven is not a villain. She does not join Vecna out of darkness or corruption. She does it for the same reason she does everything.

Love.

Look at Eleven's pattern throughout the entire show. She forgave Brenner — a man who experimented on her, isolated her, and weaponised her as a child — because she understood his pain. She has an almost limitless capacity for forgiveness when she sees the humanity behind the hurt.

Now think about Henry Creel.

In Season 1, before he was Vecna, Henry freed Eleven from Hawkins Lab. Without him she might never have escaped. He showed her kindness when no one else did. Then she accidentally sent him to the Upside Down. From a certain angle — she wronged him first. That guilt never fully went away.

Vecna's pitch to Eleven has always been personal. He has never just been a monster to her. He is someone who understands her trauma, shares her origin, and was failed by the same system she was. By the end of Season 5, with Kali by her side reframing Henry as their brother — Eleven does not see a villain she needs to destroy.

She sees someone she already forgave before she even realised it.

The Plan — A Gift Wrapped In Tragedy

Here is what I believe actually happens at the end of Season 5.

Eleven does not defeat Vecna. She joins him. Not violently, not dramatically — quietly, out of love and guilt and understanding.

And then she does the most Eleven thing she has ever done.

She makes sure her friends are happy.

Kali creates the illusion. Eleven powers it. Every person in Hawkins gets a personalised, perfect version of the life they always wanted built from their deepest memories and desires. Mike and Eleven reunited. Hopper home with Joyce. Will finally at peace.

Eleven knows every single one of them well enough to build something they would never question. She grew up with Hopper — she knows every detail of what would make him feel safe. She loves Mike more than anyone — she knows exactly what his perfect moment looks like.

The happy ending we see in the finale is not a victory. It is a gift. Built by someone who loved her friends so much she conquered the world for Vecna just so they would never have to feel pain again.

Vecna Needed Insurance — Max

Here is something that has bothered people since Season 4. Vecna does not spare people. He killed Chrissy, Fred, Patrick. He is ruthless and efficient. Keeping Max alive in a coma serves no obvious purpose.

Unless she is still serving one.

Max was always bait — used in Season 4 specifically to lure Eleven. Inside the illusion, Max alive and vulnerable is the perfect leash on Eleven. If Eleven ever wavers, if she considers breaking the trance and bringing her friends back to the truth — Vecna finishes Max.

Eleven knows this. She built the illusion with that knowledge. Max's life is the guarantee that she stays. Vecna is not keeping Max alive out of mercy. He is keeping her as leverage over the one person who could undo everything.

Eleven is not just choosing Vecna. She is trapped by the choice. And she walked in knowing that.

Will and Hopper — The Two Weak Links

Not everyone goes quietly into the illusion.

Will has had a hive mind connection to the Upside Down since Season 1. Even inside a perfect illusion he could potentially feel the truth bleeding through. Vecna knows this. So Will does not just get the trance — he gets something extra. Infrasound emitters. Military grade sound technology operating below the threshold of conscious hearing, designed to suppress, disorient, and sedate. Will is not just asleep. He is pinned down.

His resolution in the finale has always felt off to people. Seasons of careful development around his identity, his longing to be seen and loved — resolved quietly with him just being content and focused on himself. No relationship, no breakthrough moment. Just peace.

That is not a resolution. That is a sedative. Just enough happiness to keep him from fighting.

Hopper is the other problem. Not because of any supernatural ability — because of decades of cop instinct that something does not add up. Hopper is visibly uneasy with Kali in a way he cannot articulate. His gut is firing but the trance is smoothing it over before he can act on it.

He did not consent to the beautiful lie. He was suspicious, he was resistant, and it took him anyway. On some level Hopper knows it is not real. He just cannot break through to prove it.

Two people could unravel everything from the inside. The infrasound keeps Will from feeling his way out. The illusion keeps Hopper from thinking his way out.

The Two Waterfalls

In Mike's theory sequence near the end of the finale, he imagines Eleven somewhere with two waterfalls.

Not one. Not three. Two.

The Duffers do not do set decoration by accident. One waterfall would be Eleven alone. Three would be the whole group together. Two is a specific, deliberate choice pointing to a pairing. Eleven and Vecna. The two equals finally on the same side.

But here is the devastating part. Mike drew that himself. From inside the trance. Which means Eleven let that detail slip through into his vision — not consciously, but because some part of her that still loves him is leaving breadcrumbs. A message buried inside the illusion she built.

She is trying to be found.

And Mike saw it. His brain flagged something wrong. And then —

Mike Figured It Out

Mike Wheeler has never wanted to be an author. That has never been his dream, his aspiration, or even a passing interest in eight seasons of television. His identity is the Dungeon Master — the person who brings people together, who leads the group, who holds everyone in the same room. He is a connector. A protector of the group dynamic. Think of how he always followed in Mr. Clarke's footsteps — not as a scientist but as someone who gathers people together around a shared truth.

So why is he alone at a desk writing at the end of the finale?

He is not writing a novel. He is writing a letter to Eleven.

He has done this before. Season 3 — he wrote her letters every day. She knows his voice on a page. She knows the difference between Mike telling a story and Mike telling the truth. The moment she reads it she knows —

I know. I see you. Come home.

And here is the genius of it. Because Vecna profiled everyone. He has been inside their heads for years. He categorises Mike as the storyteller. The Dungeon Master. When Mike sits down to write, Vecna looks at it and moves on. Just Mike being Mike. Harmless. Nothing to suppress.

Vecna has never understood what Mike and Eleven have. He understands fear and pain and trauma. He has never understood unconditional love with no supernatural component behind it. Just a boy from Indiana who never stopped believing in her.

The letter slips through every wall Vecna built because it does not look like a threat. It looks like a memory.

And it reaches her.

Why No One Guessed This

The Duffer Brothers said in interviews that no one had guessed the real ending despite millions of people theorising online.

Conformity Gate got close but went too far — inventing secret episodes and hidden content rather than trusting what was already on screen.

Everyone was looking for something hidden. A post credits scene. An extra episode. A tweet confirming it.

Nobody considered that the ending we got was the dark ending. Hiding in plain sight. Working on two levels simultaneously. A beautiful goodbye for people watching with their heart and a devastating tragedy for people watching with their eyes.

The happy ending is real. It is just not true.

And the only person who knows that — sitting at a desk somewhere in Hawkins, writing a letter to a girl two worlds away — is Mike Wheeler.

The most ordinary person in the show. The one Vecna never bothered to account for.

Posted by Josh. If the animated series or any future Stranger Things project confirms even one of these details — you heard it here first.

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u/Old-Alternative4425 — 24 days ago

The movie, HIM, and Remembering Him, are secret sequels

They both have the same actor and both have HIM in the title. After the movie HIM, the main character decided to stay away from football and change his name, start a new life. Which leads into remembering him.

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u/Mysterious_Bid_57 — 21 days ago

Star Wars: The sequel trilogy is just Luke Skywalker having a fever dream after eating bad Ewok food

At the end of Return of the Jedi everyone celebrates on Endor and the Ewoks cook a big feast.

But remember two things:

  • The Ewoks were literally planning to eat Luke earlier that same day
  • Their cooking hygiene is probably… questionable

So my theory is simple: Luke eats something weird at the celebration and gets serious food poisoning, which causes a huge fever dream. That dream is basically Episodes VII–IX.

When you look at the sequels like this, a lot of stuff suddenly makes way more sense.

1. The galaxy becomes weird and inconsistent

The New Republic somehow collapses almost immediately.
Then there's basically another Empire.
And another Death Star.
And then later an entire fleet of planet-killing ships.

Dreams tend to recycle things your brain already knows, just in bigger and stranger versions. Luke defeated the Empire and a Death Star, so his fever brain just keeps reusing those ideas.

2. The story jumps forward all the time

Major things happen between scenes or movies and we never really see how we got there.

That’s exactly how dreams work. One moment you're somewhere, the next moment you're somewhere completely different and your brain just accepts it.

3. Luke acts completely out of character

In the dream Luke almost kills his nephew because of a bad feeling..

Luke’s brain basically skipped the training part.

4. The blue milk thing

Luke’s weird relationship with blue milk might also come from unresolved childhood stuff.

He never knew his mother and obviously was never breastfed. The color blue is also tied to the first important thing he got from his father: the blue lightsaber.

So his brain might connect
blue → father → comfort → nourishment

Which in a fever dream becomes… blue milk.

Conclusion

Luke is probably just lying next to the Endor campfire sweating while Han is trying to wake him up and Ewoks keep offering him more stew.

At some point he’ll wake up, drink some water, and realize the entire sequel trilogy was just a fever dream caused by questionable Ewok cooking.

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u/Drjoshram — 1 month ago

Lack of Zombie “knowledge” in most movies/shows

I just thought of something that idk if it’s well known or not. But it’s kinda funny that how in most zombie shows or movies no characters are like “oh that’s a zombie, remember the show we saw” or something like that you know? Like I’m watching a k-drama Happiness, and not one character has seen a zombie like ever. So, theoretically, no zombie shows or movies exist in their universe….does this make sense or am I tripping?

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u/Dismal-Extension3846 — 1 month ago

Every game after 06 isn’t real (sorry if this didn’t make sense i did not put in punctuation correctly I was typing as fast I can)

I know what you are gonna think “what are you talking about?????” and trust me I know after the events of 06 Sonic went to the festival and was in one of the local resorts while Eggman was thinking of a new way to rid of the hedgehog, and ordered one of his robots to snipe Sonic while he wasn’t looking and Sonic was hit he ran off so no one knew he went. Eggman assuming the hedgehog was gone he was right as no one knew where he went and happened to him, people assumed the worst so everyone searched for him for many months and they only found a single quill. Eggman was sleeping and he heard something in his lab so he got up and found the blue hedgehog only a bit different than normal. He looked feral and angry the wound on his shoulder was still there and his eyes were red he told Eggman he was going to pay for what he did, one second Eggman is staring down the hedgehog he thought he killed the next he’s forced to relive everything up to 06 over and over and over and over again the other games after 06 are sights into the future he could’ve had. (this post was correctply punctuationated if you have any complaints or criticisms let me know)

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u/CampaignOrnery9725 — 21 days ago

[Cats] Grizabella fucked a dog.

I've got absolutely nothing to base this on which is why I'm not posting it on the other sub... But the first time she was introduced in the Cats 1998 movie I saw how the cats reacted and thought "What's the worst thing a cat can do that would make all these judgemental cats hate her?" And "Fuck a dog" sprang to mind and I sort of couldn't shake the thought, and saw the rest of the show through that lens. Like if you had told me the actors had been given the stage direction "Look at Grizabella as though she fucked a dog" I'd be like yea that tracks.

I was waiting for some big reveal about what she actually did but in the end nothing in the rest of the show dissuaded me from my theory. Every theory I've read online about how she must have worked for Macavity or abandoned her kids or whatever doesn't hit the same. Like if it was that, why wouldn't they just say or sing something about it? It had to be something so abhorrent the cats don't even want to talk about it.

Grizabella fucked a dog and cats are judgemental about that sort of thing because they're dog racist.

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u/WantDiscussion — 1 month ago

The Departed!

Sergeant Dignam Was the True Mastermind in The Departed, Not Costello

Everybody assumes Frank Costello is the main source of corruption in The Departed, with Sullivan as his inside man and Barrigan as another dirty cop on the payroll. But I think the movie leaves open a much darker possibility:

Sergeant Dignam was the real mastermind the whole time, and Costello was just the public-facing monster taking all the attention.

Here’s the theory:

Dignam’s entire personality works as perfect cover. He is loud, abrasive, angry, and constantly looks like the kind of guy who is too blunt and emotional to be subtle. That makes him the last person anyone would suspect of being the one truly pulling strings. In a movie entirely about hidden identities, that would make him the most dangerous kind of mole: the one hiding in plain sight behind honesty and aggression.

Most people view Dignam and Queenan as being on the same side, secretly running Costigan as a good-faith attempt to expose Costello. But what if Queenan was not Dignam’s trusted partner? What if Queenan was compromised too? Barrigan says Costello had enough on “all of us” to bury them, which strongly suggests the corruption went beyond just Sullivan and Barrigan. That line opens the door to a much broader network than the movie directly shows.

Under this theory, Dignam works closely with Queenan not because they are equals, but because Queenan is useful. Whether Queenan is being blackmailed, coerced, or simply trapped by his own involvement, Dignam uses Queenan’s rank and legitimacy to help run operations from inside the department while staying protected himself. Queenan’s death matters not just emotionally, but strategically: once Queenan is gone, Dignam loses a layer of insulation and becomes more exposed.

This also changes the meaning of the Costigan operation. On the surface, Dignam seems committed to using Costigan to bring Costello down. But if Dignam is really the one in control, then Costigan is not simply a weapon against organized crime he is a tool for managing information, controlling who knows what, and eliminating threats as the board shifts. Dignam pushes the undercover play so hard because it keeps him close to every moving part. He can monitor Costigan, Queenan, Sullivan, and Costello all at once.

The biggest twist in this theory is that Dignam may not have been working for Costello at all. Costello may have been working for Dignam, or at least serving as a front man for a deeper system Dignam actually controlled. Costello is loud, chaotic, violent, and impossible to ignore. He is the perfect poster boy for corruption because everyone focuses on him. Meanwhile, the real power sits one layer higher, inside the police department, disguised as a foul-mouthed enforcer who looks too obvious to be the real villain.

Barrigan’s elevator confession is one of the biggest supports for this reading. When he says, “What, do you think you’re the only one on Costello’s payroll? He’s got enough on us to bury us all. We have to stick together,” that sounds like a much bigger web than the movie spells out. Most viewers take that as proof there were more dirty cops somewhere in the system. My theory is that Dignam was not just one of them he was the one above them.

That also re-frames the ending. Most people see Dignam killing Sullivan as an act of rough justice or revenge for Costigan and Queenan. But if Dignam is the true mastermind, then the ending becomes a cleanup operation. Sullivan is the last living thread connecting the visible corruption network. Costello is dead. Barrigan is dead. Queenan is dead. Costigan is dead. Sullivan is the final loose end. Killing him is not justice it is the final move of a man erasing the last witness who could expose how deep the corruption really went.

And that is why Dignam works so well in this theory. He gets to look like the last honest man in the movie, when really he may be the one who survives because he built the whole structure to protect himself.

I am not saying the movie explicitly confirms this. It does not. But The Departed is a movie obsessed with masks, double lives, and systems of corruption that go deeper than anyone realizes. So if there is one final hidden rat, the most fitting answer would not be Sullivan, Barrigan, or even Costello.

It would be Dignam….the man who gets to walk away looking like justice.

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u/weissthewise — 1 month ago