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Like part of Jason’s anger upon return is the Joker still being alive, whilst also Tim having taken up the role of Robin.

If Batman had succeeded in killing the Joker, what do you think would change (if anything) about Jason’s return and his relationship with Bruce?

On the one hand I think part of their conflict would be removed, but I think part of Jason’s anger wasn’t just that he wasn’t “avenged” but that Bruce couldn’t save him in the first place. Then this being added to feeling replaced when he realises Bruce has a new Robin.

I have so many thought’s about it but would love to hear others thoughts as well!

(also to be explicitly clear: by ‘relationship’ i mean the father-son, mentor-mentee, vigilante-sidekick relationship they had, pls dont be weird)

I like long fanfics, like... 100k+ words. And it would be great to find something like that where Jason’s role as an antagonist/villain and his antics are explored in depth as the central focus.

I just love the idea of a more “evil” Jason, doing questionable things and being a piece of shit, scheming and antagonizing Bruce, and Dick (...and Tim… and Damian...) with tons of tension and drama. It’s such a fun.

I do love Jason’s angst and his inner turmoil, but I feel like he’s often written in a way that’s too woobified because people can’t (or don’t want to) deal with a more twisted thing, twisted morality and its consequences so they shy away from it.

It’s like, is Jason a character who’s had a hard life and is deeply traumatized? YES. Is Jason a motherfucker bastard? YES, THAT TOO!

Those two things can coexist without taking away Jason’s responsibility, agency, or personality.

There are a lot of fics where Jason redeems himself and repents quickly, like the ones where he attacks Tim at the Titans Tower, and instantly he’s like, “Oh no! My tiny little brother!” and Batman or Nightwing shows up and everyone’s like, “Oh, Jason! You’re alive! Come home! We love you!” and Jason’s like, “Oh, they do LOVE ME!! so I was wrong and this was all a mistake! I’ll come back home!!”

Those are cool, but they’re not what I’m looking for