
"Cast your pole" - Magnet fishing
A magnet has north and south poles. Could the container be hidden in a pond or stream? The container could be a hollow rock. Some item made of iron tied to a rope..

A magnet has north and south poles. Could the container be hidden in a pond or stream? The container could be a hollow rock. Some item made of iron tied to a rope..
Justin revealed that the logo for his treasure hunt might be helpful in solving the riddle. If we assume that the image represents the Earth, then the treasure marked with an "x" would be hidden beneath the Earth's surface.
If we play with the idea that the Earth’s surface forms a map, then “Beyond the map’s edge” takes on a new meaning. The treasure could be located beneath this map. The Earth’s surface is this “edge.”
All of this could, in turn, be connected to the fact that the events in "Alice in Wonderland" take place in an underground world. The image published by Arkade could also depict Alice, which would reinforce this idea of the logo and the Earth.
Justin Posey hid a treasure worth thousands somewhere in the American West and left a poem as the only map. I went through it stanza by stanza and every element — shadow, water, arches, a face in the rock, gates, a bride — keeps landing in the same place: Utah's Arches and Canyonlands corridor near Moab.
14-minute video with the full breakdown. If you follow the Posey hunt or treasure hunts in general, curious what you think.
I think I heard targeted and deliberate. Who heard Justin say it was more accurate to say he “painted and delivered modifications” to the container? Technically they both could be right, but I never heard anything about painting the container. Maybe he camouflaged the container to match the surroundings.
I’d like to get a general consensus on what everyone has learned from this? What are we learning from this? I’d also like everyone to speak freely.
While we are hunting, we are forgetting that he didn’t have to do this. What would we be doing if we weren’t hunting ? Who knows, but I do that I’m thankful !
Bem, tenho uma teoria que estou pensando em como testá-la para então poder compartilhar com vocês. Mas eu só queria saber uma coisa: mais alguém acredita que não está nos Estados Unidos?
The riddle:
"There's a woman in a boat on a lake wearing a coat. If you want to know her name, it is in this riddle"
The answer to this is Theresa. I think in the poem there's something just like this.
AI won't be able to detect this (it throws off AI just like his layer 5 company) and it's exactly as Justin describes in the book as hiding in plain sight.
5 times in the poem he mentions "IN"
"What" lives IN time
"Wisdom Waits" IN shadowed sight
IN "Ursa East"
"Not" IN clever minds
"Not" IN tangled twisted finds
I'm still stumped but an example is the word "knot" hiding in plain sight. Maybe pronouncing the word "read" as the color red (for solves related to rainbows).
IN "ursa east" sounds like "shes buried". Ursa = she bear. She bear east. She's buried. Or she-berries or sometbing about married (idk).
Just feels like he's dropped something like this in the solve that we will look stupid missing
Picture: "Cheshire Cat" in the Ursa Major
This is the weirdest thing that has ever happenend to me! I can't believe how did I manage to "solve" Justin's riddle.
In the poem on Justin’s website, part of the text is in “the shadowed sights.” A cryptic message: “v be flow C”. The velocity is the speed of light. My solution to this mystery is GRAVITY. Gravity "lives" in spaceTIME as we all know.
"In Ursa east his realm awaits":
JP quoted the author of the "Alice in Wonderland" in the Netflix series. So, if this character is familiar from his stories, it’s good to remember that Alice adventured in Mirrorland, where everything was turned upside down. So, for example, if the Cheshire Cat says he’s in Ursa east, he’s actually in Ursa Major. In this particular constellation, there is a pattern created by a GRAVITATIONAL lens, which scientists call "the CHESHIRE CAT" because of its shape. Now I knew that I needrd to find this cat somewhere in the American west.
"Walk near waters silent flight" :
The Native Americans called Portland “Still Water", so I’ll start my journey there.
"Round the bend – Pass the Hole" :
My route takes a turn after the town of Bend. I’ll pass Crater Lake whose original name was "HOLE Lake"
If we continue in a straight line from the city of Bend, passing by Crater Lake, we’ll notice that the route takes us through a recreational area named "Alice in Wonderland" in Ashland. All the trails in this area are named after characters from the Alice's stories.
There I found the Cheshire Cat Trail and about 200 feet from this path is a large, round, cracked boulder. Next to it was a piece of rock about 6 inches wide. The material of this stone is known as the Ashland Pluton. This type of rock is found only at the summit of Mount Ashland, located about 6.5 miles south of this site. I belive this is the item that should be found on the "Checkpoint". It clearly points to the certain direction as JP has told it would do.
I drove up to the Mount Ashland and left my car in the parking lot. I walked about a MILE up the road and saw something interesting. Next to the road stood a massive rock formation that the locals call the "Rabbit Rock." As we know, White Rabbit also lives in the Wonderland. This is important because Justin has said that a MILE FROM THE PARKING LOT, you’ll see something that will help you move forward in your treasure hunt. He had also said that there could be found some help by reading some other than his book. I believe this rock formation is the thing Justin was talking about. And, the book is the Alice in Winderland.
Near this rabbit rock, I noticed a smaller rabbit rock. Next to it was a stone circle that resembled a miniature version of the standing stones at Stonehenge. I believe the smaller rabbit is the larger rabbit's BRIDE, and the stones in the circle are the “ANCIENT GATES" that she is guarding.
According to the additional clues Justin gave, “Return her face” means that the Bride’s head must be turned. The smaller rabbit was facing west, so I had to continue my search in the east.
"Double arcs on granite bold":
"Granite bold" is a FONT, so the double arcs could represent the letter M. I noticed that McDonald Peak is located east of the Bride, and I headed there to continue my search.
"Wonder guards this sacred space":
On the mountain ridge, I saw a massive rock formation that resembles a LIZARD's HEAD. This natural wonder gazed directly at a cubic black rock below. The sacred stone of Muslims is, of course, the black rock of Kaba. Kaba means "cube," which in turn refers to a SPACE in mathematics. So, a wonderful lizard guards this sacred space.
Justin has said that once you’ve solved all the riddles, you’ll find yourself in an area about the size of a typical American kitchen. I wonder if this could mean that the treasure is hidden among the boulders of the McDonand Peak? JP also said that once the final location is known, the treasure will be something to retrieve rather than search for. To pick up like a Big Mac meal?
Bang, Bang! Justin announced at Seekers Summit 2026 that the treasure isn’t in Oregon. My whole house of cards collapsed and I almost can't believe it.
Could someone explain how it’s possible that I found that rare piece of rock at the Checkpoint that’s only found on a specific mountain peak? Who had brought it there? I noticed there was some dead grass underneath the stone, so it couldn’t have been there for decades.
Anyone out there use Skyview much? Free to use. Lot of fun. Anyone going botg near a dark skies area should def check it out!
Justin said there is a question he’d ask but cannot ask himself. What is it?
My guess:
What are the 10 clues in the poem?
This way we know the rubric we’re all all stacking up against.
I was thinking… if there are people who have given up looking, or went looking and didn’t find it, could you share your solve?
Your incorrect solve must have been convincing enough to get you out, perhaps it could make something click in the brains of others?
Thought I would toss out what I worked up this winter in case there was anything that could be salvaged from it.
(Even if it is just to laugh at my stupid ideas and feel better about your own. Lol- You're welcome!)
Please join me on my journey of conformation bias.......
There have been some conversations in here over the past weeks that are extremely critical of the treasure hunt.
I feel it’s important to remember that the point of this hunt was never to give just one person a lot of money. But to give every person something they can find enjoyment in along the way.
If you find yourself feeling hurt or overwhelmed, the best thing to do is take a step back and think about why you’re truly doing this treasure hunt. If your only goal is to get rich and be the finder, the odds are not in your favor. There may be other hobbies that give you a more reliable sense of accomplishment.
Satisfaction in this will not come when you find the treasure but when you realize you don’t need to in order to feel good about the effort you’re making.
Stay sane and enjoy the hunt!
Justin said that the book is a memoir to get to know him. I have been trying to know the answer to this question: did he have the treasure hidden spot picked first then built the poem/clues/mechanics later to fit the spot or the other way around?
I believed it would make a big difference for us to confirm whether we are in the kitchen area.
If spot was picked first, then the area would be full of lord and significance. Otherwise, it might just be a “normal” wilderness feel.
It would be difficult, if not impossible, to have a place that fits both scenarios. Having these thoughts in mind, I would not be dictating my “final place” to what my solve derived - I would look around to find something special to pinpoint the starting point of “manipulation.”
Perhaps this is why Justin said that we have to be BOTG for stanza four - to find the checkpoint or the double arcs on granite bold!
“Speak of the devil” Justin says this referring to Tucker on episode two of G&G just after the 20 min mark. I hadn’t caught that before and truth be told I’ve only watched it few times vs countless readings of the book. But this lines up with something else that I caught a while back when I was first learning to “metal” detect the book, which is to say finding hidden rock and roll references.
If you do a keyword search on the book for the word “six” you will find two chapters with three instances. The Prologue and The Bronze Beast. The old saying speaks to the superstition about the power of naming something as if to summon it. In the Prologue we have the naming of the truck “The Beast” and in The Bronze Beast “…we finally christened the beast “Tucker.””. Fitting that he should use the word “christening” here.
In the Prologue we are talking about six years, and in the Bronze Beast we have six miles. These are both ways that we measure age and by extension time. Vehicles are measured in age of course, but what anyone really wants to know is the mileage.
So what do we do with it? I can’t say. Perhaps there is a distance or elevation clue here. Or perhaps it’s a nod to the methodology of “metal” detecting. Justin isn’t the “optimistic amateur” he was six years before the summer of 2018 when he had a new theory about Iron Springs. He was no Iron Maiden at that point. Just wanted to put this out there and see if anyone else has their noses running. Happy Bicycle Day tomorrow to all who celebrate and be sure to listen to Rosetta Stoned and think about Tyler getting his car stuck on the end cap. Don’t get caught micro-napping standing up.