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Vivziepop was asked if Stella would ever get development. She said that yes, we'll learn more about Stella, but also that Stella will remain a simple and unapologetically evil antagonist, because those kinds of one note villains are a lot of fun to her. She said that a "Cruella" like character is who she was going for.

The problem with tv shows having one note villains (especially when it comes to the main villain) is that more time needs to be dedicated to them then almost any other form of media. Disney villains like Cruella work so well *because* they're in 90 minute movies. Simpler is better for shorter media.

A tv show however has way more time dedicated to it and more time needs to be spent consuming it. And because of that, flat, one note villains with nothing to them can bring down the quality of a show if they're focused on for too long. There's a reason why there was a lot of focus in Avatar on Azula but there was hardly any focus on Ozai. I'm not saying its impossible to make a main villain in a tv show one note with nothing to them but them being evil and that also constantly appears in a show narratively interesting, but a writer that can make that Herculean task work is one in a million. Not to mention that Helluva Boss *is* basically a drama at this point. One note villains work well for comedies (which Helluva boss also is, clearly) but *not* for dramas, and this is already a problem in the show. Stella shines when it comes to the comedic parts of the show but she falls completely flat in the more dramatic parts of the show. Stella is so cartoonishly evil that she's less a character and more a force of nature that's only purpose is to make things terrible for people before being soundly defeated. Which works well enough for Ferngully but not the drama comedy that Helluva Boss is.

However, going back to what Vivziepop said during that interview, Vivziepop had brought up Beatrice Horseman as an example of how getting more insight into a character's own perspective would impact and change our understanding of them, even if they mostly have a one-note personality, and then pretty much said that we can expect that sort of direction for Stella.

I'm thinking... *hoping*, that she means that Stella JUST has a simple personality and a lot of depth everywhere else when it comes to her character. *That* would Stella interesting while having a one note personality. That would make her just like Beatrice Horseman. It would also make her like Azula who I mentioned before, both are cartoonisly evil characters whos depth is linked to their backstory and how their backstory affects their relationships with the characters around them. The way Vivziepop describes what kind of character Stella is really makes it seem like they're going with a "her parents broke a perfectly good child and now Stella is like this" angle. Which makes a lot of sense knowing what we already know about Stella, it would also fit with the "generational trauma" theme

the show has going on.

Problem now is that also would make Stella a *tragic* character like Beatrice and Azula. No one looks at either of those characters now as "horrible people who are were always just like that" nowadays even though pretty much everyone did when their shows first aired. And that's mainly a problem because half the fandom loses their shit if you even think that Stella should have a sympathetic backstory. So that's definitely not going to be a problem on the creators end, but a problem with how people might react to it.

u/Icy-Western-7108 — 8 days ago

I made a post calling out the bias against stella on r/helluvaboss and like fucking clock work the mods took it down. The bias against any non negative Stella posts on r/helluvaboss is absolutely insane and I cannot believe it sometimes

I'm glad this sub exists as a safe place to Stella glaze but I'd like to do it on r/helluvaboss without getting jumped by rabid stolas fans.

I can't understand hating a fictional character soooooo much that it's basically become cult behavior

And that's coming from some one who hates stolas with a burning passion.

I love Stella and it pisses me off that I'm basically not allowed to on the main helluvaboss subs.

The treatment of us Stella fans is absolutely abysmal

(I don't know if this necessarily counts as a massive rant but this is a lot for me as I don't usually rant at all)

u/StellaSimp — 9 days ago
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I already know how the Stolas-Octavia arc is gonna be

Octavia will be forced to apologize to Stolas for leaving him and making him even more depressed. Stolas will never face any consaquncses and will never have to realize his mistakes. Instend his daughter will be blamed and Stolas will seem like "The dad who was trying his best".

You can bet Octavia is gonna be treated as the bad one and not Stolas who... 1st when he and Octavia went to Loo Loo Land he compltly ignored her so he can sexually harass Blitz.. and in "Mastermind" where he said to everyone in the court room he was the "Mastermind" which led to him losing his status and powers...

So in conclusion... Octavia will have to apologize to Stolas for leaving him, even trough it was deserved.

(Sorry for bad english)

u/Which_Matter3031 — 4 days ago
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I have been feeling pushed out by the show due to the direction it has taken, however I also feel as though I am being pushed out by the fandom itself. The reason I say this is because most of the modern fanbase surrounding Helluva Boss came specifically for the Stolitz drama and often insult those who criticize the direction the show has taken and rject any and all criticisms of Stolas/Stolitz, creating a rather toxic space I no longer want to be a part of. This is not the show I came for. It was the pilot and the origianl premise of the show that drew me in, and now it seems I am one of the few of that era still around, however due to the attitude of the current fanbase as well as the direction the show has taken, it has caused me to consider dropping the show, and with the season three teaser basically hinting at more Stolitz drama bullshit, despite Loona being my one reason for staying around in hopes she might get more development, seems to not happen and as such my faith in the show has run dry. This was my last straw. So, to the Stolitz fans who I know will come at me for daring to speak out, here's what I have to say:

https://preview.redd.it/1fvwu5crjbyg1.jpg?width=911&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ef7e129fe2e3c5df8910cb66ca25124520ca1852

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u/FallZealousideal159 — 13 days ago
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Eh... Lets talk about this because i am honestly sick of people (expecialy on r/crazyasshazbinhaters) acting like this show doesn't have any issues and hating on people who critisise it.

So in The western energy episode we Hear a conversation between Stolas, Stella and Andrealphus and they are talking about The terms of divorce. When Andrealphus points out that Stolas cheated on Stella (this DUMBASS BIRD) Stolas has The audacity to say this (quote above)🔼.

This reasoning is just straight up wrong. Because in most cases cheating comes from a feeling of lust towards someone who is not your partner. I get that Stolas was mentaly frustrated with his relationship with Stella and he cheated to let out his sexual desires that were unfufilled because of how hostile his marrige is.

But lets also look at stella's side. She got cheated on with someone FROM THE LOWEST CLASS MIND YOU. She had every right to get mad at Stolas because of What he did. I'm not saying that i'm on her side. I'm saying that her feelings in that moment were totally valid.

That said, Stolas' argument in this conversation is straight up false. Cheating doesn't imply that you were betraied by someone you cheated on. It implies that you can't control your own sexual urges and are letting them out in The worst way possibile.

u/TechnicalOne4806 — 7 days ago

I'm lowk stepping down as Mod

someone else please replace me as Moderator by going on r/redditrequest I'm quitting for a while, ion wanna deal with monitoring a subreddit anymore

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u/SerenityCitywide — 4 days ago

It amazing how Stolas's stans can insist that everyone but them are the problem.

I'd laugh at the irony if it didn't aggravate me to no end.

u/SeaSaltyQueen — 6 days ago

I been on this Reddit for a minute, love the posts, but I have a genuine question

This subreddit is dedicated as a safe space to hate on Helluva Boss characters. I’m genuinely wondering why hating Stella and Andrealphus isn’t allowed. Not trolling but I’m just genuinely curious. Btw I’m not blaming people for hating Stolas.

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u/SHADICxSAMNONITE357 — 5 days ago

I HATE stolass' fucking chest feathers

If he wasn't a Goetia he'd get beaten on the street for walking around like that.

Because seriously, what the fuck? he never covers it, he never trims it, he proudly wears this chest feathers outside as if it's making him look adorable/elegant and not darn fugly

Imagine a dude having long chest hair that he puts outside and flashes to everyone??? this is literally the shit stolas does.

The fact that his clothing has holes for it disgusts me. Regal one already looked bad, took all seriousness from him, and the current "casual" is even worse, it's actually painful for me to look at. During the shopping scene with Blitz it actually ruins most of outfits...

You're not Angel Dust, shave or at least cover this crap.

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u/Saharcia — 6 days ago