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I spent 2 weeks tracking ghost jobs on Upwork. 19 screenshots later, I'm done being quiet about this.
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I spent 2 weeks tracking ghost jobs on Upwork. 19 screenshots later, I'm done being quiet about this.

Look, I don't usually rant on Reddit. But this has been building up and I think a lot of you are dealing with the same crap so I just want to put it out there.

I freelance in cybersecurity on Upwork. Pentesting, Cloudflare setups, security audits - that kind of stuff. I take my proposals seriously. I don't copy paste some generic "I'm the best fit" nonsense. I actually read the job, understand the scope, write something specific. That takes time. And connects. Real money.

So imagine doing all that, and then... nothing. Crickets. The client just vanishes.

And I'm not talking about one or two bad experiences. I'm talking about a pattern. I started screenshotting every ghost job I came across and I hit Reddit's 20 image limit before I even ran out of examples. I could've easily done 50+ or maybe more then this.

Here's what I keep seeing over and over

Jobs sitting there for a week. Two weeks. Sometimes over a month. "0 hires." Proposals still showing "under review" when clearly nobody is reviewing a damn thing. The client posted the job, got 20, 30, 50 proposals from freelancers who actually put in effort... and just bounced.

And Upwork? They just let it sit there collecting more proposals. More connects being burned. More money in their pocket.

That's the part that really gets to me. They KNOW these clients are inactive. They have the data - last login time, whether they've even opened a single proposal, everything. But why would they close those jobs? Every proposal is connects spent. Connects = money. Ghost jobs are basically passive income for Upwork at this point.

Let me put some numbers on this so it hits different

Average job charges what, 8-16 connects per proposal? Let's say 12. A ghost job gets 30 proposals before it dies. That's 360 connects. At Upwork pricing that's like $54 burned on ONE dead posting. Now multiply that by the thousands of ghost jobs sitting on the platform right now. Yeah.

And it's not just connects. Every proposal I write takes me 15, 20, sometimes 30 minutes if it's a complex job. I'm reading their requirements, thinking about their architecture, writing something thoughtful. When that goes into a void because the client logged in once and never came back? Man, that wears you down.

Oh and the cherry on top - Upwork's own algorithm tanks your profile if your win rate is low. So you apply to 20 jobs, 12 of them are ghost posts where you literally never had a chance, and now YOUR metrics look bad. Make it make sense.

Check the screenshots, this isn't me exaggerating

I attached 20 screenshots. Scroll through them. You'll see the same story repeating:

  • jobs posted 7-10+ days ago, zero activity, still "open" and accepting proposals
  • clients who clearly haven't logged in for weeks but the job is still up there eating connects
  • posts with 20-50+ proposals that just never went anywhere
  • budget listed, scope described, looks legit... but the client was just window shopping and we paid for it

20 images and I had to stop because Reddit said no more. That should tell you something about how widespread this is.

Co what should actually change? here's my take

put a cap on proposals. Why can a single job get 50+ proposals? That's insane. Nobody is reading 50 cover letters. Cap it at 15-20. Once you hit the limit, the job stops accepting new ones. This forces the client to actually look at what they have and it stops freelancers from throwing connects into a black hole where they'll never be seen.

give clients a deadline. You post a job? Cool. You have 7 days to shortlist someone, message someone, or close it. If you don't do any of that, the job auto-closes and every freelancer gets their connects back. Simple. You asked for people's time and money - follow through or give it back.

auto-refund connects on dead jobs. If the client hasn't logged in for 5 days after posting, or hasn't viewed a single proposal, just refund the connects automatically. Upwork has this data in real time. They could flip this switch tomorrow if they wanted to. They just don't want to because dead jobs = revenue.

show us what we're getting into before we spend connects. Before I apply, let me see when the client last logged in, how many proposals they've actually viewed, and their hire-through rate. Like, does this person actually hire people or do they just post jobs and ghost? I shouldn't have to gamble my connects on that. Give us the data.

punish repeat offenders. If a client posts 3 jobs and never hires on any of them, restrict their posting. Make them fund escrow first or something. Freelancers get punished for bad metrics all the time. Why are clients immune? They waste the entire community's time with zero consequences.

some kind of "verified buyer" badge. If a client has a history of actually hiring and paying, show that. Let freelancers know who's serious. It would help everyone - serious clients get better proposals because top freelancers aren't wasting time on ghost posts anymore.

Why Upwork won't do any of this (and why they should anyway)

I'll be real with you. Ghost jobs make Upwork money. There's no mystery here. Every dead post that collects 30 proposals is pure profit through connects. They have zero incentive to fix this.

But here's what they're not thinking about. The good freelancers - the ones who write real proposals, who actually deliver quality work, who make the platform worth using for clients - those people are getting burned out. They're leaving. Going to Contra, going direct, building their own client base off-platform. And when the talent pool drops, clients stop finding good people, and the whole thing falls apart.

You can't keep squeezing one side of the marketplace forever. Eventually it breaks.

I want to hear from you all

Seriously. Am I tripping or have you noticed this too?

  • how many connects you think you've wasted this month on jobs that went nowhere?
  • certain budget ranges or categories where ghost jobs are worse?
  • any tricks you've figured out to spot ghost posts before applying?
  • what would you change if you could?

Drop your experiences below. And if anyone from Upwork somehow sees this... we notice. We keep track. And we're tired.

TL;DR: Been tracking ghost jobs on Upwork for weeks - jobs where clients post, collect 20-50 proposals, and disappear. Attached 20 screenshots showing the pattern (would've attached more but hit the limit). Freelancers are burning real money on connects and hours writing proposals for jobs that were never going to lead to a hire. Upwork needs to cap proposals, set client deadlines, auto-refund on inactive jobs, and show us client activity before we apply. They won't do it because ghost jobs make them money. But the talent is leaving and they should care about that.

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u/Divine-Clown — 8 hours ago

Most freelancers undercharge not because they don't know their worth but because they are scared of losing the client in front of them right now.

Been around enough operators to see this pattern clearly. Someone lands a decent client, gets comfortable, avoids the rate conversation because the current arrangement feels stable. Six months later they are doing more work for the same money and calling it a good relationship.

The thing is clients do not set your rate. You do. And if you never test the ceiling you will never know where it actually is. The clients worth keeping are not the ones who leave the second you raise your rate. Those ones were always going to be a problem.

From experience the freelancers making real money are not necessarily the best at what they do. They are the ones who treat it like a business and have the conversation early and clearly and move on when it does not fit.

Staying cheap to stay safe is still a decision. Just not a great one.

What stopped you the last time you thought about raising your rate?

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u/Limp_Cauliflower5192 — 8 hours ago

Need advice

I've spent years trying to work as a freelancer but only managed to get bad clients (few and poorly paid), it's impossible to support myself this way. I'm about to give up but I'm very lost and don't know what to do because getting work is very difficult. Have you ever been through this? I need advice.

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u/Bl1ssg1rl — 3 hours ago

why is it so hard to find clients?

hi everyone, im a graphic designer with 2 years of learing experience.

my sole issue is finding clients for work. like i just keep on making samples and samples and get rejected, if a get a genuine job idk why they just ghost me after giving the work,

and that google maps and cold outreach. yeah that works -- one in a thousand times. for a student like me thats not viable. i have tried platforms like fiverr too but only got messages by scammers.

i would like to know where do i get genuine people whom i can help.

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u/anish_9teen — 13 hours ago
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How to find a remote job?

How to find a remote job?

Finding remote work

I've been trying to find remote work for a while now. Can anyone recommend some platforms to look for? I'm Italian and live in the Netherlands.

If it's remote, it doesn't matter where I am. I speak fluent English and Dutch. I'm a former manager in the furniture industry and have previously worked in sales network organization, especially in retail. I'm 62 years old and have extensive experience and expertise in my field, but my age seems to be becoming a problem. Could freelancing be a solution?

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u/crosscircle — 10 hours ago

Do I go freelancer ?

I have a full time design job that’s stuck in a pay freeze I’m extremely unpaid and hating my job now. I want something that offers more freedom, I want something that pays way more.

I’m scared to take the risk and give up my job and go freelance. I was thinking of even freelancing for companies for 3/6 months at a time.

Anyone have any advice on taking the leap??

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u/Civil-Caterpillar-48 — 8 hours ago

Why can't you find clients?

Well, one reason is you are incapable of using the search function and seeing even how many similar fools have asked the same question in the last 20 minutes alone.

The other reason is this is the core of your job. If you can't figure out how to find clients, do your research and learn how. If I wanted to, I could teach you. But I run a small business and my knowledge is what I sell. I'm not giving it away for free to idiots on Fiverrr and Reddit.

I could teach a class on how you find clients, but it would cost money. Real money. Like, I dunno, $500 for a three hour class.

Why would I give that away to someone too dense to use the search function or read a book?

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u/Alternative-Pear9096 — 8 hours ago

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u/PulseLabs — 6 hours ago

best alternative to Payoneer for receiving payments from international clients?

I've been freelancing for about 3 years, mix of Upwork and direct clients mostly in the US and EU. Currently using Payoneer to receive USD and EUR. Between the receiving fee, the FX spread, and the withdrawal fee I'm losing around 3-4% on every payout. On a $5k month that's $150-200 just gone.

For those receiving payments in multiple currencies from international clients, what are you using? Mainly looking for lower fees and a better conversion rate.

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u/sdemo86 — 22 hours ago

Can I freelance without LinkedIn?

Hi all, if I want to freelance but don't want my full-time job to find out, is it still possible to do outreach and find clients without LinkedIn?

I want to get into email marketing freelancing, but want to keep it separate from my SEO copywriting job for now. Will it look strange if clients search me, or is it ok?

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u/Top-Process1947 — 19 hours ago

Freelancing 3k a month into personal PayPal like a rebel, now IRS audit nightmares keeping me up.

For a year now, been pulling in decent cash freelancing online, around 3k a month which feels like winning after scraping by on ramen budgets. All funneling straight to my personal PayPal because who has time for LLC paperwork when deadlines are breathing down your neck.

Lately though, the fun police in my head are whispering about taxes, proper invoices, and oh yeah, am I accidentally running an underground empire the government's gonna slap with fines. Set up a business entity yet?? Nope, too busy pretending this is just 'hobby income' that magically sorts itself.

Everyone acts like forming an LLC is this huge hurdle, but is it actually illegal to keep stacking personal PayPal or am I one 1099 away from a felony? Need advicee

For a year now, been pulling in decent cash freelancing online, around 3k a month which feels like winning after scraping by on ramen budgets. All funneling straight to my personal PayPal because who has time for LLC paperwork when deadlines are breathing down your neck.

Lately though, the fun police in my head are whispering about taxes, proper invoices, and oh yeah, am I accidentally running an underground empire the government's gonna slap with fines. Set up a business entity yet?? Nope, too busy pretending this is just 'hobby income' that magically sorts itself.

Everyone acts like forming an LLC is this huge hurdle, but is it actually illegal to keep stacking personal PayPal or am I one 1099 away from a felony? Need advice.

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u/Quiet-Sand-4169 — 20 hours ago

Moderators can we auto reject the onslaught of “I don’t understand why I can’t find clients on Fiverrr even with my lack of experience” posts?

title says it all

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u/Alternative-Pear9096 — 9 hours ago

Extra Income from Home 💸🏡

Hey everyone! I’m looking to earn some extra income and would love some advice.

I have strong skills in formatting and editing, and I’m also a great cook. I’m about to move into a large condominium, and I’m thinking about starting a small food business—maybe selling burgers, poke bowls, or sushi. I can even make homemade sourdough bread.

Do you have any tips on how to get started and make it profitable?

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u/Maximum-Opinion5630 — 10 hours ago
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Ideas for Starting a Profitable Side Hustle from Home 🍔💡

Hey everyone! I’m looking to earn some extra income and would love some advice.

I have strong skills in formatting and editing, and I’m also a great cook. I’m about to move into a large condominium, and I’m thinking about starting a small food business—maybe selling burgers, poke bowls, or sushi. I can even make homemade sourdough bread.

Do you have any tips on how to get started and make it profitable?

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u/Maximum-Opinion5630 — 10 hours ago

Hourly rate for financial modelling

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u/helperquestions — 11 hours ago

Is mentioning a physical address in a cold email necessary?

I want to target people in the U.S. with cold emails for my service. Do I need to include my name, company name, and physical address at the end?

I’m based in a different country and don’t have the budget for a virtual address. I’ll also be emailing a few lawyers, so I want to make sure I’m doing this in a legitimate way.

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u/Lanky-Nose-6959 — 12 hours ago

Has anyone here actually gotten clients from LinkedIn (software dev)?

I’m a dev looking to use LinkedIn for lead gen, but not sure if it’s worth the effort.

Feels like a lot of content/branding work vs direct outreach.

Has anyone here consistently gotten paying clients from it? Or is it better as a support channel?

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u/hsorif — 20 hours ago

Anyone working in AI chatbot for website , I want to join with you

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u/Krish_Automates — 16 hours ago
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