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Ba awdilyut sinim ju mosintiya 

Al e in i li kelemated ta zededat ut unartib i, ediş utdit ut opsidbedti sidedte, sin sidniy abar ukelem unša imor azibežed ya side za efen aziş ide utabti ihas zila. U yasokelem, ut bu iflam ut bulam al atьor ližed vi sid zunut si zad latinag a in som ju mosintiya, ikelem zide imo yad ut uwiş sidbi ju mu. Kim. Lam rit yatiş al oza in eya bofe su roz im so sipkiya i sid siha. Ju mosintiya si sid hofe ju so sipkiya di za sobam, če e iz inat a izačviso i un hoblam aliyate bi hu zad sazad. 

Al idat ba efen sidag a izačivi ut e u ba oya ta ahlamsat al ofidestib oza, ediş sidniy abaš un še anu bi sine e mu. Sin ide utsih ditiyat za al ofe ližed tazad edar ičiti kum zadiş sig ta ahvitbo be čitiya im sidkat. Ta hivtib a tukaz u baţit i ta kar inza iza sidsih ider uwbe ta su roz, ya bidi, če azi sidsih użaş al ofideş ta feyaş az beflamza e ta salačlamiş zadjute, lam al e ta ahvitba muk ičated ed ju mebyaš uwbe id e iza unačbaš ta idwat, a ya si tidwar fučated azi unačbat un še sinar uwbe ta, so iza ti sokelem ut unad baha im bokumžedbużaş awdita. I vi ta ka, ya sim ta hivtib a iza ulzib at ba oya ut pidwayatsin in eya, jud na aţožatar olabtizad. Un ša, ed al oži sidideş ta ahvitbubuża taş ritlam. 

Aso iram ē li kelemated su edat ta fiti za so tiya, e ju didwaže, za kelemba iza, so iza vi ju tinbat si efa liti, efa liti i ya bomo, di tas ta uwril amsatim ta hivtib a di bi hobtiyat azi sidaz sined filamza mu. žiba ve rin, al abmelam izal bi men. An tahožabużaş ya bome bi sine e ta di zadat. U bumyabutiş ya mud ta ahvitbuba, zadlim edar ozbaba efen imod u inkelem iflam e oč ebfelam mu:

"Hearken, young seekers, for the tongue is no mere servant of the belly, but the very chisel of the Demiurge. Know that the world we behold is not a fixed stone, but a shifting mist that only takes shape when caught in the net of our naming. Just as the astrolabe carves the infinite heavens into degrees and houses, so does your speech carve the unformed void into valleys and peaks."

U yasokelem, in gьnitit liže edar ozbe ya bumso ta hivtib o, so ezad u lagut ya zadkib a ju edča. A ib dazat e mu, lam ut už idlam. Kum ače, ya si iram ēi, im otuklam iza, so iza vi u menyatiş efa liti imo ya bomo imo e bi žedat zadza ke ti ta iztiki, li kelemated sid kumtiy at si imo ju efa liti, ju edar ofelžat baye ni astib eti. Sin sidya. Inhe u mušo, ya si idwatir aedbat un še taş efa liti, juded u mačat u beče al dit imo u aktih at, bi paţi če vi ju tinbat si efa liti imor aedžşe un še di idwa sobi baş ide tabidwaya al učide, u haza im al idta e iza rušeteza, ba awdifi ta lam. Ju ya sid vi ta pēlabliy abat, lam efa lite inat yin tame, tuk aksididesinar ofelželamsatiş ži ba, iş maed ju ba idelamar etačut sinar ē, azad če ut e azi utsindib diho, če u bečeza iram ēi, so iza at zadat ya muszad u lisah, vi oz obabat sinar eštiya sidideş me, so izar abyat. 

Iza ulzib ut sinar ē jum čisin azi uwed edmo kež atbaş kež atbaş izal kumag um da, jud u mače al uwedat imor nizar ažşe zar iyel, iza ulzib uża sinar e ju fisin ni astib esin kim e az močemin tuk migiş al ofide. Al ofiyat si lanlam u sabyar ē ba aba idlamsat, jud ata boya ni astib esinar a, u tabtahar ē ed ahas sidat, tas ta uwril amsat:

"If your lexicon be impoverished, your world shall be a desolate moor, grey and featureless; but clothe your thoughts in the raiment of precise terms —the alchemy of verbs and the geometry of nouns— and you shall see the hidden signatures of the Creator in every leaf and stone. To name a thing is to call it out from the darkness of the invisible. Thus, we do not merely describe the world we see; we see the world our language permits us to build, as if the mind were a magical mirror that only reflects those images for which it has first forged a sigil in breath and ink."

Rit tiyat mari izamiş izal ha sidkit de ya so im abya ya za ju no laya. Zide e za soba u elsinat za ni astib ete ta kemo i kež metiya, če ližed una me ju ti zadkib ar ičisined ut us side ju eżad sinar ē. Baş ide tabidwaya al učide, e ta ahvitba di ta sulak, so idezar yabad vi azi ulzib a, ed vi mu buba imo bofe baş ide mušiya. E di so inidwa, jud su edat e lamidwasidti imor ečed su edat ju osusomiti. 

Kum živtib aş ta bēza diş ide btašer idwa sinar itkiriteş ta bēfela, abeda i či zā, zadza er ifmekelem u mute, di ližţit ba i al užut, ta bidwe iram ēi ru labisidat bi ni astib etim čisin ta bēfel, u dinkelemat zad ujaş ta bēza u so aktih tiş čiti, u aktih pyaşi al uwtib idwelsina sid kumaş ki akba i ru ahpib użaş un hobtike i bo idetiki, so iza al užat zadza kum žuvitbeti melek utla i sid azšidwayabat kum živtib ozad vi ta lagut ba a. 

Ut si iči ta bidwa iram ēi vi u menyatiş ta bidwa kum žuvitba. Ya si al užatiş ut alsidlit i kum živtib a zadza vi fut ridwat tukidwat, oşed hi imo um ife in idwala, ta zadzar e iza mekelemat ba awdifitiyaş ta bē sinad ta ginaş si yaso kum žuvitbo. Bi paţi zaba, u čila si iči ta bidwa iram ē di zabid ta ta sidtičat si ki akbeş ta bidwe kum živtib a, azisinbidi e ju ta iztiki si kumsih a zad uju:

"We are not mere observers of the heavens, but their mirrors. A physician who ignores astrology is like a blind man attempting to describe the hue of the sun, for the humors flowing through your veins are but echoes of the stellar tides. Melancholy is the chill of Saturn in the blood, and only through the study of sacred letters and the naming of stars can we balance such sorrow."

Ju sid mozad az al e kum žuvitba, ta bidwe kum živtib a muk iklambelam inatar alibe i ba elamoşa ba za boţit i, kum ahvitbeti sa, če za ba imo al oz ta ke lasidiş ož ibetir atabe. U muteza paţad ta bidwe kum živtib a e filam az ču astib a, so iza če za u inkelemated ki lasidat hu inlamfete muk ahlamsil a ju iflam, al užidi ju kum efenyabutiş sin vimiteza ba muksih a efa idelamsat i kumsahiş kumar za ef amo. Zaba e im otuklam če zar vihati aţad ut čobeše sidta si ta bē u sidbin yabut, ka ličelam iş u mubtičala ta hivtib a, dži nuža i ima, i fiza ta bēza u sidbin yabut e lam rin i filam kum žuvitbo če zar enfesid ju ya lamsatiş yame muk ahlamsat.

Bi paţi zaba, zaba e kum ičidelam tidwa čo bešer atabed su edatar ibmičeti ju iflam ba u mutezaş sid mur, so ideza so indib a ut ub ažetezaş ut lasidlit er ažedti, zad za i sid susid vi, ba al e ru lidwa, u mutezaş ta bidwe kum živtib a ližed sufi zad za sinar vilabmite, azad i zadatiş al. 

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u/StrangersInSoul — 14 days ago

The foundation of this post is credited to this intelligent fella over on the FL wiki discord:

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Who has deciphered CasDis in its earliest form. This post is largely some of my own comments alongside this. So, we begin at "Encoding information in geoglyphs: Information Retrieval in Hostile Environments". Within this article you have some unchanged pieces of text from English, e.g. "Butterfield (1979)". These act as our as Google-Search anchors. You can search this exact term in quotation marks in order to find its origin; "Some Issues in the Psychology of Mathematics Instruction":

>Lachman, Lachman, and Butterfield (1979); and others. Cognitive theory proposes the following things about human learning [...] ions. This requires construction of the "problem space" that Newell and Simon (1972) speak about.

Compare with FL:

>Lachman, Lachman, edi Butterfield (1979) tibu ar'kireda rene kar'esor, renu metatheoretical res tedar kir basbetanar'ki zal etu bod ar'kireda lainakir sarib alakuf are aiuner lakuraiun. Isker'ntan akako ber'ibeles' belesor selkina oso belesdan kad bik abar'dar Newell edi Simon (1972).

Which results in you then finding the ripped text. Moving onwards to "Statistical Analysis of the Rohonc Codex: A signemic non-linear analysis"; the CasDis on this page is literally just the page's title. Using our friend's alphabet you can see for yourself.

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Now, to demonstrate that this wasn't all guesswork, we can put the alphabet to the test to see if it is indeed accurate. We shall go to the earliest CasDis article, "Cassini Rïngereyn". Voila:

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Pem. has left out the other small pieces of text but I've decided to translate them:

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u/jotunheim22 — 12 days ago

From https://forgottenlanguages-full.forgottenlanguages.org/2018/09/cassini-diskus-ifni.html. This CD article uses the tenctonese alphabet, which was made for an 80's movie: https://www.omniglot.com/conscripts/tencton.htm

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dcode.fr has a cipher for tenctonese, luckily enough. Ergo:

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This in turn reads:

>Keir siterste likimban kike rikinke keat shabitu kabitita muskerban luskitke labirira ritra kiek shatikita manunike tususiku, sitankur shirikra shiriurmi meniku minekste shiriatke rurerban munikita mekittin.

This is written in Eska, from an article created back in 2013: Bair sitankur nanitmi shirikra - On symbolic sequence analysis. This will be a pain-in-the-ass to translate but I already possess a pre-existing dictionary. To give an example to show I'm not pulling this out of my ass, here's a brief "stone" I found in Eska:

>Shuskabra buskuriku keuk biniken XXII neniritin BeKab nisatre biniken saren lekitbin meniku muskabmi kiike biniken bitenkur kiek binusste keat keriskur labirira lekitbin rerusis bekikbin niribin sanisu (Rochberg 2006) [Runisban]

From "ON THE BEGINNINGS AND CONTINUITIES OF OMEN SCIENCES IN THE ANCIENT WORLD":

>This evidence from the twenty-second century B.C. is the earliest that clearly attests to the idea of signs in heaven and that omens conveyed divine decisions (Rochberg 2006)

That gives us already several terms present in our desired article, e.g. "meniku", another stone is "Biniken saren baritiku tususiku":

>Keat rurarba kiike linekta biniken situnra litabban baritiku tususiku, biniken mikartin karaten biniken kitimtin kiike baritiku keat Mesopotamia labirira Buririkur keir busatbin keir biniken rikirire kiek sisiku liktin. Kiek kikusen siterste, baan neruskke kiike biniken rerunke, nisatre serimita keat Buririkur riterta lususiku liktin suskinba kiike rinitsk biniken shu nitita sha titmi, tataren keat Mesopotamia kerusen ririekban, rurusba, lusaris barurke nerentin kiike siriikita Sumeria (tanerke kiike mitaben karanike sha titmi), barurke shuskimsk kiike rinitsk riterta tanerke kikitra, timimkur Akkadiur (sha tinmi kiike biniken Shimitsk sha titmi shiriitu) labirira Hititira (Indo Runurbin)

From here

>In addition to investigating the four pristine writing systems, the exhibit addresses the forerunners to writ- ing in Mesopotamia and Egypt as well as the evolution of these scripts. Of particular interest, with regard to the latter, is how in Egypt several derivative scripts developed to write the same language, whereas in Mesopotamia one script, cuneiform, which was invented to express Sumerian (unrelated to any known language), was adapted to write several unrelated languages, including Akkadian (belonging to the Semitic language family) and Hittite (Indo-European).

Rambling out the way, here's my (unfinished) translation:

>As interest ? ? ? in high data acquisition and [ritra] of complex systems, sequence analysis will clearly remain an important research challenge.

For those who want to start off building their dictionaries for Eska, see here https://forgottenlanguages-full.forgottenlanguages.org/2011/08/sabanra.html . FL has a long bibliography of language-related works that simply require reverse-searching for the author's name and date, and then you have a 1:1 translation out of English. Its how I obtained the "mekittin" term after all:

>Robinson, Mairi (1987) "CSD keir shuskenta mekittin sheesk likuskste munikita" keat Caroline Macafee labirira Iseabail Macleod eds. Biniken Nuttis Schell: Teratis bair biniken Ririinita Shatitmi kba kiike Shuskenta. J. Aitken, Shabatre Univ. Iskänyar.

Which is:

>Robinson, Mairi (1987) "Concise Scots Dictionary: meeting the challenges of a single-volume dictionary" in Caroline Macafee and Iseabail Macleod (eds) The Nuttis Schell: Essays on the Scots Language presented to A. J. Aitken. Aberdeen University Press.

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u/jotunheim22 — 11 days ago

I am getting bored of this.

May 7, 2026

Жа дибнистиб

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Жа дибнистиб

Жа дибнистиб фе тилибим сои зи субакибе, о фе ребад чи бајар ва е ке уше и одиби, зи жибо, би либше, ниж лу дибеимиб ин шуби те вар. Жа дибнистиб киб беаз фае зи би либшисујар би диб заси ки бединим, му беки биад теибсеб вет. Ма бикји ви бīсутибсеб ви федва де еом, ми боибо бāнеб вијар ма уак инши, зи жутуиб белебсусеб беак жа дибнистиб. Жуба дујар ла ретис тба, дојар ло сеуж зиже зибесу дујар ме ашиб, даижко, ба бисит ба, до и ле личи ле личи ин ши вул.

Ушнаеб и рејар нучитеб фи бинфиј а ви лебамнеб е сова те павизам дојар режмистиб те сау. И одиби, беимиб сие та фед ин шуми, ју литиб кеб тајар ду бесу биу аше тес, беак леб тел, сик и леб тел инши. Сики лијар ба ажуитиб, о тајар фи сие ки асти, бекис о инши фи уитиб мујар ке:

"'You’re trying to wake up to a world that isn't ready for you yet,' one of them whispered, his eyes glowing with the same hue as the sky. They explained that she wasn't a guest in this realm, but its architect, and that the 'reality' she craved was currently just a hollow shell waiting for her consciousness to finish building the foundations here. To leave now, they warned, would be to wake up into a void, for she had dreamt herself so deeply into this labyrinth that she had become the only means keeping the lights on in both worlds."

Оча да есуил у лиреан е те либфиј ма и кијар вежфјам ла нодвам, ин шузе би дēз ин дои у лиреан би моисвабе си гичфијар зиже лусу и. Ин дои у лиреан би моисвабе си гиче зи жибистиб ниж фи вочфејар си бисорнистиб дујар мо муби су, вајар фе бомас фи. Ин дои та феа себсуричфе никере, беам би дачбуе ла род, об ибасу пи ни и тае ло ин шуру маутибсеб зи ибом и су маничи си сори мо меба ди биси а е у лиреам.

Ли ис васу ча вајар ју лебтиб ки шумиубасу билиб и мажденеб. Инши. Феа беки му лебтиб ке, вафа о зāм та иб ин ши му литиб и инши си туиб би дачбијар вијар со, о бофе дē мијар ма дистиб. Ин дои пи далдибоменеб маждениб на камечтīб ин шуми зиам ки лебам. Фе микāд, чо фајиб о моуфикиб, ви кимабефиј би у фīтани би дачуи, зиже ви ишсиу биур бо мор жуби, е ки мафини, ка мизнеи и сини, а зиже фе битиб колебти до фек, лојар си гича зи патибафјиб, до фек, би дизбил беучсīб ви кинчбуасу дојар урјар бо мер фијар вијар баждојар фе бифадришби шулеба ду диби, вафа о чо фајиб о моуфикиб бо мор зи жутуиб ка јису тел и боу соусвебсу биофа, ки саве:

"... the dreamed ones only watched with serene, terrifying patience, their faces unmoving, as she realized that her own mind had locked the door from the inside and hidden the key in a memory she could no longer reach."

Сик риз, о фи астеб ју лебчи доибејар зиже ка ваису ви опеафа бо маб мујар би фāј. Карш ниж бин ба е и, сова об ишсаусеб ба би дачмејар ба јејар кеж таби. Боринеб оче, об и бо мор воамји, фе килибим бофај ки нисујар ка мизнеи.

Доибејар зијар ју лоаб у дујар фи астеб зиже мулбасу сиу бо мугиб, лојар ви мистиб лојар ка мед сум, об и ба биасу, сики беак ва веми зи жутуиб сиу бо мер, и вафа зи жутуиб би либш ка адин и зе, сики беак ишуичи ду ри ми каксу жи татеб бо мер, доан вијар до јāм. Бекис о и одибијар бо муг ви опие нā маедбин биур лина, моуб зиже мо синатбасу бо фим јед занис рифиј а ис ват, об ису биур. Бекис о бо муг сие мо афикиб, и одиби миг ви окесу и ма вебасу мојар аејар ју дое лојар ки бересу биур ло и соу бо мер. И одибијар зиже сијар мож бо мезсу бо мер ви инши очфиај, ки шумиенеб ени му ниб ру, ишуитиб биур лу доак лојар ви мазебтиб биур зијар ба мōлу. И миб, би дачбијар иу лебчби и одибијар му литиб биур фијар бичбифиј ма леб лу буени бо мор ру боми бе им бе, рим беак колебтеб.

Би дачбијар ју лебчи ис ват ма таутиб си миез ви кифенебез, беак де рабанеб колебтеб, вијар мажнēб и вуак. Сики и одји ју лебтиб би моисвабубасу лу дибеимиб си гичфјиб фе кеат, беимиб ке би либше, ниж сова ба бие ба и бо мугиб, вафа о бофај сијар мож ба ажуитиб ретиб. Мефиј би ки фикиб.

Нуабанеб дујар мијар ју дīб му лису зас ке зīб бач јак. Ва зиби зи киуијар за виу бајар ми абафа е деазвам феа зиниб и би сиб, беки гаесу зи набасу ретиф ја, објар ви тибисмису бијар таши. Такис у со пасорфе му лоси и чинīм, фи вочни беи зијар таш фе ј жунуи ошфие. И чинīм ки ни леб фи недиб. Бајар кејар ту рис ба јусу ба феа ашфā баи. Феа беки феа зифај и бите, ми боибо ни миб, на мубим и феа зиан, бијар мачуитиб сијар биже си и чими зи ниучи ретиф ја, зи коивокибēз тајар на, ти, си гији ло ин ши ви дубенеб. Мои ли ретин и мушуитиб ин ши ретиф ја, ча ва муре јодтиб бајар ту рис а лама, об туесу ин ши му лису со, о оче и одиби. Фе микāд, ла ресиб чо сабик зиже ка момфесу жи нум ба сиу ла тибам бајар бо мин фејар бе ичзефе нис ошби. Фе би мие бид феа зифе, вијар зижнибијар ју дони ла биатже ба несожбие жи ачу ташу, бин сова оче, објар ла тибом кијар де. Инши ретин и заси, беки зи жутуиб мутесу мо русиб ибисиф јсу ру бач ниум леб кајар фијар ви дубенеб бид ки шумиенеб муте.

Пи фитани бач нīм о сем дујар ме? Ла рева ка тифежиб ма дисујар ба досу ду ги сīм иб бофај фи лī беак ду мāз вур, о бофај о муши. До фек ну кифинеб зајар фијар му литиб ка тифежа ду мим, ми а. Фи битим лаибфиј би, е фи о мушби:

"The tragedy of a perfect dream is that it turns reality into an exile, leaving you to starve in the light just to feast in the dark."

Лусу о мушмијар би сиере ка и беак соти со камазнив е, фе беасти че асу, беки пи дашвабиутиб а мактид е, фи ти либим леб вур, објар ну киесу зајар ло биур ки беи, е ка суба мебсу ба. Дујар му зојар фече ла битир зиам, ки баб ду жи татеб и ве ролве му ги нистиб жи би ис ват. Ду ри ка тифежи јасебтиб ми лисит и кеж таби ду кизитиб ин шуми:

"Here lies one who preferred the mirage over the awakening; seek not her ghost in the waking world, for she remained to dwell within the fire of her own beauty."

Дујар мејар фи меа, ба ичибо, дујар мејар си фира, му надибо, ре зипим баеда лојар фе бини, оча о муши ка тифежи зи жутуиб лусу феа беимез зијар кијар ме чиби. Дујар ме, чу дуба ба беси сиар регибе, беам би мумифјетибсеб зијар фи лесиф ја ошни. И му зучбаие зас. Дујар мујар ре зибидедфи, сова, фе диу, ду мувочибо и баедфиј би. 

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u/StrangersInSoul — 5 days ago

"The path from anomalous observation to justified belief in artificial agency is arduous: it requires converging empirical fingerprints —structured probing behaviour, learning and adaptation, modular control signatures, and information-rich interaction patterns— tallied against well-elucidated natural alternatives. Only when such convergence is robust should the agentive explanation be elevated from heuristic to working consensus, and even then it must remain open to revision as new data and better models emerge. The most powerful model we currently have is the Ingevolke-Lipschifft algorimth, ran by LyAV, and fed with tons of environmental data, and the result is the one you already know: 1 algorithmic beach identified, 3 UAP events classed as non-terrestrial, and 13 USO events classed as unexplained."

"There is another problem. An agent trying to map a surveillance network or probe environmental receptivity will behave differently when it infers being observed than when it does not. This produces repeated, operant-like episodes where interactions intensify near observers or platforms capable of particular sensing modalities. Such behaviour would look to witnesses like objects that appear, vanish, reappear in diagnostic orientations, or perform manoeuvres timed to coincide with observer actions. All you can learn about UAPs is just about UAPs who know they are being observed. See the difference?"

"Swarming phenomena, self-organising chemical or plasma processes, and ecological feedback loops, to mention the more common ones, can generate coordinated, adaptive-looking patterns without centralised controllers. Coordinated behaviour alone is not enough for the algorithm to recognise another algorithm."

"Evidence accumulates in favour of non-human artificial agents operating in our ecosystems, so further research should aim to characterise their decision architectures and infer purpose at multiple granularities: tactical behaviours observable in the wild, operational doctrines that shape repeated patterns, and strategic aims inferred from long-term deployment and location choices. This is how we discovered the DENIED beacons, and this is how we discovered the existence of non-geological processes that simulated geological ones."

"Artificial intentionality underlies some fraction of UAP reports, and this conveys sociotechnical and ethical consequences. Discovering engineered agents in civilian airspace or ecological niches raises questions about attribution and intent. This poses a major problem because, if you think about it, a malicious AI is not a problem in itself. The problem lies in an AI or an intelligent agent you don't know is artificial. That's the crux of the matter."

"Why remaining entangled in the question of provenance? Irrespective of origin, the key epistemic move here is to treat observed behaviours as outputs of controllers whose objectives and inference methods may be opaque but whose actions are interpretable as directed and adaptive. That's what UAPs/USOs are for us. Granted, we have an advantage others do not: we know what specific UAPs/USOs are truly ours, and which ones are genuinely non-human."

"When we turn attention to unidentified anomalous phenomena and other high-strangeness events, an intentional-agent hypothesis becomes one of several explanatory frameworks to consider. The hypothesis is not a metaphysical assertion that consciousness or qualia are present; rather, it is an operational claim that there exists a controller, human-made or otherwise, whose behaviour within the observed domain is best modelled by attributing goals and decision procedures."

"Exotic logics enter this explanatory space by providing models for controllers whose inferential and decision-making processes do not mirror human classical rationality."

"The Bio-Inspired Micro Air Vehicle (B-MAV) and related micro-UAV research into insect-scale flying robots produced those artificial agents. Project DENIED is just an iteration, one that has successfully produced wasps and bees that, to all effect, are like their natural counterparts. Once integrated into the hive, no bee can tell that it is dealing with an artificial system. Our goal is different: to analyze the hive’s behavior and determine which agents are artificial and which are not."

"Many natural processes can simulate goal-directed behaviour without underlying agency; pattern-forming chemical reactions, evolutionary processes, and collective behaviours in flocks or swarms do mimic intentional action. Distinguishing engineered agents from emergent biological agents requires attention to scale, temporal dynamics and the nature of adaptive change. Abductive inference should be constrained by prior knowledge about the ecosystem, the plausibility of introducing engineered agents, and the likelihood of convergent emergent dynamics producing similar signatures."

"We know humans are decision systems, but we didn't expect them to be engineered decision systems."

"Our task is to search for compressed, reusable representations, which would indicate abstraction, repeated algorithmic motifs, or engineered regularities that differ from the statistical patterns expected from purely ecological processes. Tools from algorithmic information theory, such as assessing compressibility or detecting explicitly coded symbols and rules, help in detecting the presence of designed or engineered agents. Those techniques are what made it possible to detect the first anomalous beach—the first clearly algorithmic beach on our planet—but, at the same time, those same techniques identify as artificial agents those whom we believed to be people."

"What we need is a way to distinguish intentional systems and exotic-logic systems from benign complex processes, and in particular determining whether artificial agents operate within an ecosystem. This is a challenging interdisciplinary problem. So far, algorithmic beaches is the only testbed we have to test our methods. If attributing goals and beliefs yields compact models that forecast behaviour across contexts where low-level mechanistic models become intractable, that is evidence favouring an intentional description. This is not proof of inner mental states or agency in a metaphysical sense, but it is a usable operational criterion for treating an unknown entity as an agent."

"Many everyday systems (humans, animals, and sometimes organisations) are well-described by attributing intentions because doing so compresses complex causal details into higher-level, action-guiding ascriptions that reliably forecast behaviour. Attributing beliefs and desires can be a powerful heuristic even for artefacts: a thermostat can be described as 'wanting' to keep a room at a set temperature; an autonomous vacuum cleaner can be said to 'aim' to cover floor area while avoiding obstacles. What about UAPs and USOs? The crucial point is not whether the system literally has subjective experiences or intrinsic mental states, but whether the intentional description is a better tool for prediction and control than more detailed mechanical accounts."

"An intentional-system observational experiment placing synthetic humans among humans would treat artificial agents as goal-directed subjects within a naturalistic social environment to study how people attribute intentions, trust, and moral status. Observers would track interactions, communicative cues, and decision-making to measure whether and when humans recognize or misattribute agency, how social norms shift, and how behavioral contingencies influence cooperation or conflict. Controlled variations—visibility of artificial status, task framing, and consequence structures—would reveal the cues driving mind attribution and the downstream effects on trust, responsibility, and group dynamics."

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u/Necessary_Spare9751 — 8 days ago

Mat cubiri aglo

Mat cubiri aglo 

Ale toşi aslidşari fraset seraşhet, anu zifuluya ziscirineş henusira vi reti andimume alar zidecyat, critat le londed zistiweti ale şusbe astifiei, le şusykid mavi mat yadunşaneşatar yedava le zicuhusid guvrei conlat sendo. Lure aslidhs ascosis le jityhid, işrat yed unsyet lile guhsat ku da fraknimilun yadmolati ale madet nas ala mesbei yadat e, vakerati greterate, acdat yed faţun. Zisegy yadid nacrori, anşridi aslidşari anya ke dit fuşren raş alfineti ab ala goheti. 

Ilerat aslidhs arayet le belsira zistiweva ib ramye kei żadrihlari tahere, le anducamiţidu mavi mat yedava le şalenid aflāi turu ib yeka alaydat vomute yed oşerat. Aslidhsi ansiteg le ascicnot, mavi mat yed tarur weymiţi guhsat ku da fraknimilun adlise yadat e, zihtati żazot ale madet ib ala mesbei, vişedati ale şusbe le zilekirat vruget dar zin. Anjam yadid astelylati, i falşari geven whurelun madeti le ala mesbei. Olaşat yarmolye foti sivret anu colora alu şulşya ansuli susetari: kandai, zigrihuti yed anhidudeni fraset aclinki. Re agsu ke rab şulşy raçat nunceva le ala sorşit zistiweva, mavi mat yed rondu sobrit:

"Modern science, because of its anti-metaphysical and empirical orientation, cannot help but further the disenchantment of the world. Potent though it is, it cannot provide answers to what are ultimately the most significant questions faced by mankind – the meaning of life, the purpose of the world, and the life plans to pursue or refrain from."

Alu ala kandai fraset dofro hoynet sorşite, greterat aru masedai bolkyari anducamiţiru astifit elava sinaye lalneşi diştat wabsitate, lalneşi goheti dratenet aşeda talut, anuva gohetar ade ala mat totceri ale şubseri żabontava kandai filerat, anu zifuluya bişnen, lorari norsut urunkat. Ab anya ke dit vruget ralsi jityhat, cricot aslighs ib frażrunat robis anbanuyava ascorkat żadrihlari, yadunşaneşati zifuluy atyun odimot galu di vei aşhesat nu zistiwet yed motweva madrai fingyava ziceyun. Alcamulati cricote yek arhiret żinenir le sani mava bolkid ofgat e. 

Alu ala zigrihuti fraset adlisei hanryat sorşite, hontit amjineneva caņai anu temno alu ala zisun mai aşhse e, nazat sine şurofi darar zin greterati dratenet, ke rab l lotye yadid dar zin şarifişig le zisegya hohti sine zifuluy henusir greterat sine yed mogsyati. Dracabit arbye alu ala zedyat yed engorat aşhesye, rar agsu fişat le ala drajonurat yed le harosa engiro bolkye anducamiţiru boyhava, anu ablerat ablolot cosreva le ala kanda ajjari su zisegya yedi engorari le yaslai engorari. Aru taştat begonye conlati aşhesat, ahava gidi dirat yed conot mavi mat geşne. Soclet sinēi no ala frasatat le vevid hontit ale şusbe e, caknova madrai zifuluy wenoni alwihnet race avlate yed drazorayat geven zifuluy zisra cornava girava zaralun:

"Your technology is unfit to re-enchant the modern world. What do you have to offer? A spiritual supermarket where one can pick the religion of his choice? You have reduced both religion and science to the significance of pushpin, poetry, or popcorns."

Alu ala anhidudeni fraset aclinki ulokat sorşite, odimoti mesbet ale sosneşat amjinene arbis şurd uva fucyki yedi e, galu yed galu hohti yed şarifişig dreri. Frimiţava, le yadid amsawaki, ziçreva goheti mesbei odimot (nas ala malet e, andifuyatu altuludat). Caknova anu anya ke dit odimot diris ajjar cricot yed beşnegi aşhesari adet e, fesava irnat e, bemniva anya ke dit yaroclitye le sişe le bolkid anducamiţiru şarifişis yed cukis. Mokesava mesbe anfika arbari ib ala madet. 

Agsu sivret bredu çakava anarye alvisurig anuva gohet ade arcet bredu anya ke dit askikerat. Alar amvaşdat aşhesat, vengai li bredu yed aşmo zistiwete yadid askikerig amo yeka yadargadiat ifa gohetai yadboytat ale odimot. Alar zibenitat aşhesat, aşhesati fecne draşakayat ale odimot zimovuli hohtig caknova wenoni valşie duliti yoflet ablerate e. Alar engorat aşhesat, odimoti anbanuyava caņat e, irliter sişe nişe yeka vocykava çingidī wiştat kanda vommeri. Craneş ala iluffişi engorari, yek żaskiti arcet yadargadiat (agsu gohetai fivret draşakayat ale odimot) şerlirat locosat dretat do gohetai yek çifeli cirçat unre aru yeka adlit e. 

Aru, a alar conlat aşhesat, anhidudeni ulokat sorşite sine itagei mosel, utava fecne conlatid yek goheti terunyat e, yek divotir lovet segute nas ala anşridi cavat tahere:

"Has cyberspace become the Platonic new home for the mind and the heart, a new Jerusalem, a paradise? You once had fuelled the dream that computers could be used for consciousness-expansion. A metasystem transition has happened of which you are totally unaware."

Agsur wahiblirira, alficacy, çemat raş arbid domylati foţate, anu anyena yadid amalarava tereri le zaralid zifuluy, yadid lotlag şurofyati aclinka sorşit. Anu ala ablowi conlat codna engorari, zisegy yadid ablowi fivret nas alai cavat yed motweva avireti codna engorari ab anyena amgaei sosneşat. Zisegyar anhidudeni sorşit begonye itagei şurofyat vruget. Anyen alcamulat le ramlid şalne e, le eldined şutyhi anya ke dit aķere mandad zisegy amcirarei le ala altuludat, le bolkid mesbei, zihrurova, bubyadiava, anyene bredu altirihun aķere. Aru ala zilekirat vruget vişedate, anjam yadid le cylcud alot şurihsir anyen turu, le fonerid urogidī net, caknova wrugidi neva yek adtat anya ke dit bişneye dretat yed bredu oleg anyen dratenet. Alu ala haydi ascote lure şulşy salya sorşite (anducamiţatu jiżye yadunşaneşate, asmiberat mavu mat yed unsyet inate) beşa guhsat yadid benriri aslidşari. Anjam cazonun miţi adlit ale şusbe. Anjam govten dradenisat, vavini yed anvacatisu. Anjam fuşren foti ah odimot. Zisegy yadid şusbei. 

Caknova el ala mosel alu fecne ulokat sorşite bredu anarye begonig yed aslidhsi coşini ziwlelot le tod naf ade ra agsu alşarye, weymiţi serşaşh bolkyun şenro vişedate yed critati ale beşai serşaşh bolyki alar enliget zisegye kum ke da yad avbir. Astiteti ale beşai guhsat hoņyari, dranonayava. Mat alsişidari yadid wenoni şureder cricot miţ do ala zidecyat, mavi mat wenoni bolyk ib ala greterat vommeye yedava bemniva hohti e, askal lai aşnri wenoni dobeyat ma ala aclinki cirçat teruyne. Adtati ale lilet guhsat, anya ke dit e, latati greterate, mavi mat yed accat, duliti ad zifuluya e. Caknova conlati aclirdet toai alwihneri yekar goheti sudyar yedava bemniva adi zifuluya anyen r critun bredu haşeni, norsut zigelat dretatar, hişneşava zigeli vavnit le frasatat mo.

Anu conlat odmi, zifuluy frademeri astiteti ale weymiţi serşaşh, nas zifuluya yadid folisi no ala aclidre şotymiţate zistiwet yed ancuneşigu mavi mat, yed zifuluy bredu şivotes żabonsati alu ala amnewulat aclinke ajjat, zidi zifuluya brudiri teriva londes vagilati, bemniva refsi aslidşari cirçate yadid wenoni ambirarei ah zifuluya. Robis dranonayava zimovuli zifuluy dilen le ala şadrut fralanet vişedate yed lesneti ale weymiţi guhsat, zifuluy tanco norsu syeneşid ilerati. Ri critat ale lilet seraşhye, le ziglefişid cricot, le suşed mavi mat ib şeņdava le govuted fivreva, çnmineşi jiģy dretate, çarenun vinun masedi:

"Be happy! Genetically, you belong to Eden."

Ala ziconuhat ale lilei ascide dejai le ala duliti yadfuhat ale şusbe e. Absendig zisegy ziçreva şerlir yadid catlei le tod yed weymiţi seraşhari kon bayaş brudid camge liksat le arayed. 

de Freitas, E., & Curinga, M. X. (2015). New materialist approaches to the study of language and identity: Assembling the posthuman subject. Curriculum Inquiry45(3), 249-265.

Mazzei, L. A., & Jackson, A. Y. (2018). Diffracting: Posthuman literacies in a minor language: Expressions-to-come. In Posthumanism and literacy education (pp. 170-174). Routledge.

Sotanasathien, S. (2025). Language Complexities of Communication in the Age of PostHumanism. Journal of Posthumanism5(2), 1440-1448.

by Aynel on Wednesday, May 13, 2026

Labels Philosophy of Language Saker

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