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Ndrive(MC) won't open

I mean why? Why does it prevent Ndrive from opening!,Ik I can run it anyway,But does anyone have an idea why tf it is getting blocked

u/Live_Simple_1037 — 2 hours ago
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Handling Current Hogging in a 7p77s Pack: How to scale SOC estimation from a single-cell simulation to pack-level?

Hi everyone,

I'm developing the BMS algorithm for our FSAE EV team. We are using LG M50LT cells in a 7p77s topology. Due to MCU compute limitations, we are currently relying on a conventional, open-loop Coulomb Counting (CC) algorithm for SOC estimation.

I’ve hit a massive wall regarding SOC drift and premature cut-offs, and I'd love to hear how experienced folks handle this.

The Architecture & The Problem:

Our BMS hardware only measures the total pack current Ipack and the voltages of the 77 series blocks V1 to V77.

Because we use standard Coulomb Counting, our algorithm assumes the current splits perfectly across the 7 parallel cells. It mathematically integrates Icell = Ipack/7 for its SOC calculation.

However, this makes the algorithm completely "blind" to current hogging. In reality, due to internal resistance variations and thermal gradients, the cells in the parallel block don't share the load equally.

  • The cell with the lowest R0 pulls significantly more current than the Ipack/7 assumption.
  • Its actual SOC depletes much faster, but our CC algorithm has no feedback loop to "see" this happening.
  • The Result (Sudden Death): This overworked cell hits the 3.0V hardware Undervoltage (UV) cut-off limit way before it should. The BMS hardware does its job and trips the main contactor to save the cell. The car dies instantly on the track, while our dashboard—driven by the blind CC algorithm—still confidently displays 25% SOC.

My Questions:

  1. For teams/systems strictly running pure Coulomb Counting on parallel packs, how do you patch this algorithmic blindness?
  2. Are heuristic rules the standard workaround here? (e.g., hard-resetting the SOC to 0% the moment any block hits 3.0V, or forcing OCV-based resets during sleep/idle states).
  3. If we use voltage-based hard resets, how do you handle the SOC display "jumping" suddenly (e.g., from 25% dropping instantly to 0%) so it doesn't confuse the driver?
  4. Is strict cell-binning (matching R from the factory) and aggressive top-balancing the only way to make pure CC viable, or do we absolutely have to upgrade to a closed-loop algorithm like an Extended Kalman Filter (EKF) to survive this?

Any insights, reality checks, or shared experiences would be massively appreciated. Thanks!

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u/chkmeverything — 3 days ago
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Volunteer at the Pittsburgh Shootout

Hey folks,

We've opened up the volunteer form at https://www.pittsburghshootout.com/support-us/volunteer for the 2026 race at Summit Point Motorsports park. Volunteers get free camping on site, 3 meals a day, and a free t-shirt.

We're looking for folks to fill the following roles on Thursday, August 20 through Saturday, August 22:

Non-Technical Roles:

Setup - general "runner" tasks, tent, table, and chairs setup, track setup

Student and Volunteer Check-in/Help-desk - answer questions, distribute materials, maintain radios

Paddock Patrol - walk the student paddocks and verify nothing unsafe or weird is going on, keep students off the roads, and tidy lines

Volunteer Room Management - maintain the conference room in the Shenandoah Building above the classroom for volunteer meals, meetings, etc

Classroom Management - maintain the downstairs classrooms, keep the presenters on schedule, answer student questions

Sponsor Liaison - check in on sponsors, answer their questions, maintain the sponsor pavilion

Technical Roles:

Technical Inspection - inspection of the student-designed vehicles to verify compliance with the Pittsburgh Shootout rules. SCCA, FS, FSAE, etc experience preferred

Brakes test - conducting the brakes test to determine the student vehicle stops as expected to the rules

Rain test - conducting the rain test to determine the EV student vehicle has no faults when put under moderate rain for ~3 minutes

Red car team - respond to "red car" incidents and resolve problems related to EVs, work with fire and EMS

Dynamics roles:

We run Acceleration and Autocross. These roles are for those events.

Timing - Reporting and logging time trial results, spotting penalties, and control of the start line

Flagging - Reporting of student team car numbers, inspection of required safety equipment at the start-line, control of the start line

u/hockeychick44 — 3 days ago
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Do I deserve to go to comp even if I haven't participated as most members did on my team? please read below first

Don't get me wrong, I've done some work at the beginning of this season, which was simple design work and was completed early on. But compared to all my teammates, I don't feel that I've participated as much because I just don't know how to initiate starting a task, but on the other hand they're involved with more complex sub-teams so naturally there's just more to be done. I've tried just showing up recently to help out, but just find myself standing there while everyone else knows what they're doing to get the car finalized. Even when I show up on our workdays, there's no task for me to do. I have a feeling some on my team don't think I should come since I usually don't show up on workdays and it conflicts with church, but I already booked my tickets. I really don't know what to do - I'm not to keen on going anyways since I don't always get along with everyone, yet at the same time I know that it's great experience and will remember it forever.

Any advice helps, thank you.

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u/LaterLastsLonger — 4 days ago
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Sealing EV FIrewall

Hello,

My team is designing our first car. According to T4.8.4, the firewall must be completely fluid-tight, especially at the sides and the floor of the cockpit.

We are planning to seal the edges of our firewall (Nomex/Aluminum sandwich) and we were considering using the 3M™ High Temperature Aluminum Foil Tape 433. However, we noticed that it only lists FAR 25.853(a) compliance, while some interpretations of the rules suggest a stricter compliance (like FAR 25.853(a)(1)(i) or UL94 V-0).

I am struggling to find an aluminum foil tape that explicitly carries a V-0 or the (a)(1)(i) certification.

My questions are:

  1. Is there a regulatory mandate for using aluminum foil tape, or is it just common practice?
  2. Are we allowed to use other types of tape (e.g., Polyimide/Kapton) as long as they explicitly carry a UL94 V-0 certification?
  3. How are other teams ensuring full fire retardant compliance when using aluminum foil tapes for sealing?

Any advice or technical references would be greatly appreciated.

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u/Mental_Professor9871 — 3 days ago
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Internal Combustion Custom Electronics

Currently on a team with a low voltage system looking into custom PCBs for future years to develop the system further, What are some custom PCBs your IC teams have implemented? (besides BSPD) Are there any sensors, control boards or anything else that was helpful or cool for the team?

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u/gowondawn — 3 days ago
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electronic differential with traction control

Hello everyone. We want to build a traction-controlled electronic differential for two 2kW BLDC hub motors for our rear-wheel-drive vehicle, but we’re not quite sure where or how to start. (We’re a Formula Student team, but we want to use this in another vehicle we have.) We’ll have a track similar to a Formula Student race track (though less demanding). Any advice or experience you can share would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance for your feedback.

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u/1meta0 — 4 days ago
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3 element rear wing at 50 kph (on starccm+)

Im trying to make a rear wing for our FS team and finding airfoils to stack together to form presumably arounf 300N of downforce (or even more is thats possible) at 50 kph. I've run around 17 iterations with gurney flaps as well and the max generated was 220N but with a whopping 80N of drag. I mostly used S1223 for the main wing, E423 for the first flap and S1210 or E420 for the 2nd flap, even trying a wortmann for the 2nd flap, ALL at varying gaps, overlaps and AoAs based on the previous sims results. Anyone got some advice on how I can craft a rear wing that can give me the required downforce but also not cause too much drag?

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u/Figurationss — 4 days ago
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[CV] Clear sight tube material that passes tech? (with datasheet)

Hey guys, looking for recommendations for our fuel sight tube (10mm ID) to comply with CV 2.6. Standard PTFE is too milky for the tilt test.

I think PFA or FEP is the way to go, but we need a reliable supplier that provides an official manufacturer datasheet (proving 120°C+ and fuel resistance) for scrutineering.

What exact brand or supplier do you use that easily passes tech? Thanks!
(Located in EU)

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u/Wintertime1337 — 3 days ago
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Anyone ever used igniter module?

We are using Bosch IM4. Transistors Vce voltage may go up to 9V. How do i deal with that with 12V battery? Since 3V left to ignition coil which will not be enough.

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u/Due_Permission_7855 — 3 days ago
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Yamaha phazer tune

Looking for a microsquirt tune file for a 2007 yamaha phazer. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

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u/Moist_Aide3504 — 4 days ago