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About Red bull's flip flop wing
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About Red bull's flip flop wing

It's certainly a lot more different from Ferrari's. There's central actuator present, plus the small elements which make the upper part of the wing stay opened higher(which reduces even more gap than normally, seems more than ferrari's). But there's smth else that actually got me wondering.

The upper part of the wing seems to me way too short for it to be able to fully close when it's turned off. That is just based on this photo. Compare its length to the amount of gap created when it opened. Ferrari's macarena wing for example was a lot longer than this one.

Maybe this one is also closing differently? But then how is the gap between upper and lower part closed when active aero mode is off

u/ThisToe9628 — 7 hours ago

For those who watches other four-wheel series like IndyCAR, NASCAR, GT, Formula E, endurance, do you agree with comments like "In terms of actual racing products, F1 is one of the worst in all of the motorsports"?

u/Southern-Space-4093 — 7 hours ago

Worst examples of a team not properly supporting a driver.

The two worst examples I can think of are Ferrari with Vettel and McLaren with Piastri.

McLaren broke Piastri's spirit with team orders and bad strategies last year. Breaking Oscar's spirit cost him and almost the team the World Drivers Championship.

Whereas Ferrari broke Vettel's spirit with bad strategies, criticising him in public, favouring Leclerc over him, and then sacking him before his final season.

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u/Individual-Sweet8968 — 19 hours ago
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Who was a Junior Formula driver that had the talent to be a multi time F1 race winner, but didn't even make it to F1 and now nobody remembers them?

u/MutantTurkeyHound — 2 days ago

Great Drivers Who Never Had the Car

New to F1 and interested in looking at current/past drivers who could have been one of the greats but just never had much opportunity in a top car. On the current grid people seem to view Sainz this way, is that accurate?

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u/thedevilsentmehere — 2 days ago
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Mercedes chief Toto Wolff urges FIA to prevent possible ADUO engine upgrades altering 2026 F1 pecking order

u/limelee666 — 2 days ago

Do you think this fix will improve racing in qatar? (Read description)

I remember watching last year's qatar race and i noticed two problems

Problem 1: every time a car gets wheel to wheel with another car at the end of the straight, because turn 1 is a fast swooping right hander the car on the outside stay wheel to wheel and not can it try to get a better exit into turn 2 and because the turn 2 is also a swooping corner it can't stay wheel to wheel and falls back to overtake 1 sec.

Fix : make turn 1 a 120° sharp hairpin. This means that not only is there a heavy braking zone which encourages late braking moves into turn 1, it also means that if you can't get ahead you can stay on the outside and get a much better exit into the next two turns than the defending driver since the track is so wide, this carrying the battle into turns 4 and 5

Problem 2 : every time a driver is following another driver into the final corner once he exits the final corner he loses a tenth and a half due to a combination of dirty air due to it being a swooping fast corner and being forced into following in a single file meaning the driver can't even take an alternative line to avoid concertina affect and the dirty air

Fix: make the final turn into a bahrain style final corner hairpin. This reduces the dirty air effect as it's a slower corner and because it's a wiiide hairpin, the following car can take the corner in a different line to avoid the concertina effect. Plus it provides a better braking zone to recharge the battery and the cars can use overtake mode better.

Over-all this doesn't fix the main issue of dirty air in the middle sector but with these cars being less aero dependant and the new overtake mode this should be better

So what do you think?

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Was there any GP in which Max's extraordinary performance could be linked to his tyre management? I mean like Charles in Monza 2024 or George 2024 Spa

Each driver's tyre management plays role each race, but i mean when it ACTUALLY mattered the most, when he got hunt down by others while being on a lot older tyres, that kind of scenario

I came to think of it, and I can't remember that kind of a race from him

P.S. Mexico 2022 doesn't count, everyone there had low deg. It was an odd race in which softs could last more than half of the race distance and were about 40 seconds(according to lando) faster throughout the stint than other sets. And same goes to 2025 monza and Azerbaijan. Everyone had low deg

u/ThisToe9628 — 3 days ago