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TEEN OF DENIAL (JOE'S STORY) MASTERPOST
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TEEN OF DENIAL (JOE'S STORY) MASTERPOST

(This thread will be updated as new information comes out. At the moment, details are scarce and slowly drip-fed. Here's what we know so far)

RELEASE DATE: (Presumably) May 2026

TRACKLIST (Bolds designate the new tracks):

  1. Fill in the Blank
  2. Vincent
  3. Destroyed by Hippie Powers
  4. (Joe Gets Kicked Out of School For Using) Drugs with Friends (But Says This Isn’t A Problem)
  5. Optimistic Son
  6. Drunk Drivers/Killer Whales
  7. 1937 State Park
  8. Joe Drives Again
  9. Cosmic Hero
  10. The Ravenous House
  11. Connect the Dots (Song of Secretariat)
  12. Joe Goes to School

MATADOR'S LETTER:

Hello,

To thank you for your support of Car Seat Headrest, we’re sending you something new (and old) from the band that has not been announced yet. This is ‘Teen of Denial: Joe’s Story’, a new recording from the same world as ‘Teens of Denial’ to commemorate the original album’s 10th anniversary this month. Some things will sound familiar, but you’ll notice some changes too. You’ll find along with this CD copy of ‘Teen of Denial: Joe’s Story’ a note written by Will Toledo providing some context on the new project.

Feel free to post the CD online, tagging Car Seat Headrest and Matador to make everyone jealous. If you have anything else CSH related from your archives, we would love to see it too, either for sharing on socials or sending to Matador directly via info@matadorrecords.com

Thank you, 

Matador Records

WILL'S LETTER (thanks to u/Villi_V for the transcription!):

Sometime last year, it was suggested to me that we do something for the ten-year anniversary of Teens of Denial, so I started looking back on this album to see what we might do. In spite of some of the songs being a regular part of my life for the past decade, it wasn’t a record I’d thought much about as a whole since it came out. Most of the songs I’d come up with over a two-year period at the end of my college days, when I was struggling with a lot of cynicism and misplaced aggression. But by the time the songs were done, I was living in Washington, Car Seat Headrest was a full band with a record label, and in spite of the turmoil of the writing process, the final album was pretty enjoyable for everyone to work on.

This time, looking back at the songs, I wanted to feel like there was a story being told through the album, though I’d never imagined it as being a narrative work. On Hi, How Are You? Daniel Johnston had used the name “Joe” in the titles of a few tracks - “No More Pushing Joe Around,” “Keep Punching Joe”  as a sort of joke, a stand-in for himself. I borrowed the idea, and the name, for titling songs on Denial. This time, I started thinking - who is Joe? And how do the songs, in the way they’re sequenced on the album, reflect what he’s going through? As I started asking this question, a story emerged with startling wholeness and clarity, like finding the foundations of an ancient city while digging in my backyard. As I kept digging, certain songs from the original album fell to the wayside, as they seemed misplaced in this new context; others asked for new lyrics, to fully give birth to the story they contained in the music.

The resulting work feels more like the album Teens of Denial was meant to be. When you’re writing from a dark space, it’s hard to have perspective on where you’re at. This time, I could pull memories of that darkness, and use the distance and additional perspective of ten years of life to shed a fuller light on the experience. Joe is a character going through some of what I experienced, and some of his own problems. Telling his story, and not just my own impressions of life at the end of the teen years, brought a new level of compassion and wholeness to the album. It gave us the opportunity to write new material in “Denial style”, embracing a snappy and simple(ish) rock aesthetic, and in an additional blessing, we were able to team up with Steve Fisk, a joy and inspiration to get back into the studio with after ten years. We mixed the material at his house in Tacoma, and were constantly amazed at the lack of divide between past and present, as we’d punch in vocal overdubs ten years later into the same gear, hearing my voice now running alongside a 2015 Will. For someone coming across this album or this band for the first time, this is how they’d hear the record, not as a relic of the past but as a new piece. It was immensely rewarding to experience that on our side.

For anyone familiar with Teens, comparisons with the original will be inevitable, but I do hope that as much as possible, people can come to this album on its own terms, approaching it as a teen, hearing the music and story for the first time. I believe music is an ongoing story, and albums don’t always do justice to its dynamic, ongoing nature. What gives it life is the new ears that hear it, and the new hearts that engage with it. I’m so grateful that this is a work that people have kept coming to, and I hope that this presentation does them honor with a fresh offering to the conversation. We’ve known that “it doesn’t have to be like this”; now we can wonder - “what if it were like this?”

Will Toledo, April 2026

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u/selib — 21 hours ago
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Teens Of Denial (Joe's Story)

Just saw this on IG and was surprised nobody shared it here yet...

u/ytsurr — 2 days ago
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I got the “Teens Of Denial (Joe’s Story)” in the mail

i’ve only seen one other post about this

EDIT: check here for the full tracklist if you're not already aware

https://www.reddit.com/r/CSHFans/comments/1tddvaz/me_and_unormalmall9461_just_got_done_dumping_the/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

I have not fully listened to it but so far it's **AMAZING**

EDIT 2: link here thanks to u/surfjerkk

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1P3ViWRpynsUpgpsx539ByVGi__MWkqx1?usp=sharing

u/Normal-Mall9461 — 1 day ago
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ToD remake opinions

Listening to Teens of Censorship [Joe's Story] right now, and it's PARTIALLY awf*l in my opinion. What's your thoughts? I don't understand my own thoughts, please help

EDIT: okay, the ravenous house and connect the dots was PEAK for me, but still don't get why they didn't rerecord vocals for whole album and WHY DID THEY ADD THAT SYNTH IN JOE GOES TO SCHOOL WHAT

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u/Deforget178 — 9 hours ago
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Parnassus island

Excuse the quality - you all need to see my Scholars Miis :) Chanticleer gets to have hair because I hated to see his bald head

u/aureilens — 23 hours ago
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The Quintessential Song

What is the song that you would say represents the best what a CSH song should sound like?

I think BLID is a very obvious answer, but I'd like to see some other takes.

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u/These-Experience5065 — 17 hours ago
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my first tattoo and my friends first time tattooing on real skin

u/nusxqu — 1 day ago
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Teen of Denial (Joe's Story) Download

Hello!! My friend ripped the Teen of Denial (Joe's Story) [or is it Denial: Joe's Story?] CD he got sent and made them into files, wanted to share them out. He said that Matador is fine with it (according to the letter he got), and I got confirmation from another person so here you go! Should be on the Drive I'm linking, if there's any issues please tell me! I didn't rip this myself and it comes from a CD so it might sound jarring? Not sure. If a better version surfaces I will replace!

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1P3ViWRpynsUpgpsx539ByVGi__MWkqx1?usp=sharing

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u/surfjerkk — 9 hours ago
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Show me your CSH tattoos!

I got the space cadet as my first ever tattoo back in 2023 and I love him dearly still. But he’s feeling a bit lonely out there… so I’d love to see your CSH tattoos! All are welcome, whether it’d be our beloved fantasy dogs or any other mysterious critter; you’re free to show off!

u/aureilens — 14 hours ago
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car seat headrest plates!

finally finished my car seat head-plate collection :) text is near illegible on the ocean one, but it does say "the ocean washed over your grave/the ocean washed open your grave". anyone who has ever worked with clay knows that the kiln is a cruel mistress lol. the (intentionally) broken plate's design is van gogh's bedroom painting!

u/drummergirl49 — 13 hours ago
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Finally getting to truly experience listening to Twin Fantasy.

Well, my long distance boyfriend/fiancé and I had to break things off yesterday. This was my first real queer relationship (and first real heartbreak)—together for 2.5+ years, planning on breaking the distance within the next one. Shit happens, I guess.

I always loved Twin Fantasy, but *shit*, I was listening to Famous Prophets on the bus earlier and just broke down. I truly GET it now. Listened to the entire album afterwards and actually felt that real connection with the music that I’m always chasing. It’s such a strange feeling, listening to something so personal yet so… relatable? It’s weirdly cathartic; feels like seeing yourself for the first time, looking in the mirror and seeing the shapes rather than the full image that you’ve grown accustomed to. It made me feel more sad. It made me feel less alone.

I always try to find the positives so that I don't find myself slipping. The positive in this shitty situation is that my second-favorite album has now taken the number one spot—yay, me.

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u/Consistent_Way2386 — 1 day ago
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How far can the limits of music go?

I recently discovered this Brazilian band called Torre de Radio de Varsóvia, and honestly they feel like something really special. They sing in Portuguese, but somehow the language never feels like a barrier — the emotion and atmosphere speak for themselves.

What caught my attention is how original they are. The production is very DIY and unconventional, but in the best possible way. They completely ignore a lot of modern “rules” about mixing and polishing music, and because of that the songs feel raw, human, and real. In a world where so much art feels artificial and algorithm-made, their music has genuine emotion behind it.

I also found out they played their first live show last Saturday in their hometown, and apparently the venue was packed. Seeing a band at the very beginning of something like this is exciting.

Their music has become the kind of sound I keep coming back to, especially during difficult moments. There’s a sincerity in it that’s hard to explain but easy to feel. Maybe they aren’t filling stadiums yet — time will tell — but they’re already achieving something more important: creating a real connection with people.

If you like shoegaze, post-punk, experimental indie, or emotionally raw music, I really think they deserve attention.

u/No_Finish9644 — 16 hours ago