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Dune vs Wicked: Which had the more impressive Box Office run?

Dune Part 1 finished around 410M Worldwide, which is quite modest but it was released during pandemic and in HBO Max. How much could it have done in normal times? It is hard to know for sure, but anywhere between 500M-600M WW is a good bet. Dune Part 2 was significantly more impressive, grossing 710M against a 190M budget.

The first Wicked grossed 758M worldwide, more than any Dune movie. Wicked For Good, however, grossed only 540M worldwide, a signficantly drop from its predecessor.

In the end, Wicked got the overall bigger final gross, specially on a lower budget. However, Dune Part 2 ended in an upward tragectory, while Wicked finished in a relatively big downward tragectory. And since the first Dune movie was released in hard conditions, comparing the final gross of both parts might be innacurate.

To determine which had the more impressive run, you have to either simply decide to look at their total gross against the budget, or analyse the overall trajectory and disadvantage of each movie.

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u/Upstairs-Bug-3052 — 5 hours ago

Star Wars vs Dune: Which of their next movies will gross more?

Obviously, The Mandalorian will gross much less than Dune Part 3. But Star Wars Firefigther looks much more exciting and has Ryan Gosling. Which upcoming space opera film will gross more?

Dune and Star Wars have been compared for decades, can the George Lucas franchise recover from recent misses? It still is Star Wars, one of the biggest franchises ever. But Dune Part 3 will also be the conclusion of the trilogy, the hype is bigger than ever, although the political tone without much action of Messiah might hurt its potential.

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u/Upstairs-Bug-3052 — 15 hours ago

Could more have been done to prove Michael's guilt? Did jornalists of the time do a poor job?

Surely many believe Michael Jackson is guilty, it is a very divisive topic, but he still was not convicted and has legions of fans and casuals defending him.

Was there anything else that could have been done while Michael was alive? Did the jornalists who interviewed him make a poor job? Could they have asked better questions? Could they have played his game and made him give more revealing answers? He likely had a pedo mentality, if he openly admitted to sleeping with children, he could have revealed more with the right questions.

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u/Upstairs-Bug-3052 — 1 day ago

It is not over, Part 2 of the biopic will start the DOWNFALL of Michael's public opinion

I know everything seems bleak, most people are loving the movie, Michael's discography is growing each everyday, he is the most consumed artist of the moment. People are believing that he was innocent. But it is NOT over.

They will eventually make a second movie. There is no way they can recreate the message of the first movie, they will have to adress the allegations and Michael's worst moments before his death. The second movie will be much more controversial, this wont be another 100% win for Michael. This will put the cases in much more evidence. Yes, the biopic will go from a feel good family movie to a courtroom drama and depression, there will be much more backlash. Yes, they will portray him as innocent, but portraying many little children as liars will cause a lot of controvery and possibly a new series of legal disputes. They will try to portray Michael in a good light again, but it will be MUCH harder, specially considering his last years.

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u/Upstairs-Bug-3052 — 2 days ago

Biopics have done well at the Oscars: can Michael be nominated for Best Picture?

Elvis and A Complete Unkown were both nominated for Best Picture. I know, they have better reviews than Michael, but Bohemian Rhapsody also received worse reviews and got in comfortably.

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u/Upstairs-Bug-3052 — 5 days ago

If quantum really is fundamental, shouldn't spacetime also be quantum?

It is really weird to believe that quantum is so fundamental and classic physics are basically "approximations", yet spacetime itself is classical and not quantum. Everything is quantum, while quantum actually operates in a classical non quantum spacetime? The "stage" they are would be classical, even though quantum itself should the basis for everything.

To me, if spacetime is not quantum, it would mean that classical physics are more fundamental than expected.

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u/Upstairs-Bug-3052 — 5 days ago

If Gravitons exist, doesn't that mean that time is quantum?

IF everything really is quantum, classic theories are "approximations", time being external and not really quantum doesn't seem to make much sense. How is everything quantum but time is classical? If time is classical, the "spacetime fabric" would also be classical and not quantum, but most physics believe that gravity can be quantum.

if there is a graviton and gravity is quantum, so is time/spacetime. In this case, time wouldn't be external, it would be a quantum phenomenon, even though the current quantum physics doesn't treat it that way.

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u/Upstairs-Bug-3052 — 7 days ago

If Gravitons turn out to be real, wouldnt they create more gravity and more gravitons? So, there would be an infinite number of gravitons always creating more gravitons?

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u/Upstairs-Bug-3052 — 8 days ago

If everything is quantum, isnt it likely that General Relativity is the theory that is incomplete/inacurate?

Everything is quantum, but on bigger scales it gets harder and harder to understand quantum phenomenons, so classic physics is just an approximation that works perfectly in our macroworld.

But since the universal theory that unifies relativity and quantum doesn't exist, isn't it likely that quantum is the one theory that is entirely correct and the problem to unify them is the limitation of Relativity since, at the end of the day, it is just an approximation theory that isnt complete.

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u/Upstairs-Bug-3052 — 10 days ago

Better release date than Part 2, the studio seems to be extremely confident in the movie. Just because Wicked For Good and Avatar 3 were poorly received, it doesn't mean it has to happen to Dune, completely different movies. And most important: Villeneuve is not Jon Chu, all his movies are top tier.

And for the source material being too "divisive": the second book is much darker, depressing and eerie than the first book. It removes the "epic" feel to a much more political story without a triumphal ending. This is why it is seen as "divisive", not because it is worse written like Wicked 2. But the actual content of the book is really good and will translate well to a movie as a political thriller, no reason to doubt Villeneuve.

Of course, I could be completely wrong, but Part 3 being much different could actually help the movie. It will feel much freshier, the subject of religion and politics is more relevant now than ever. It doesn't need to be a triumphal ending, Timothee's character will also have a lot to do, the entire book is basically the downfall of its protagonist, this has potential to be appealing to the audience and the Academy.

u/Upstairs-Bug-3052 — 18 days ago