u/Olivebranch99

Theory: Genevieve from 12 Dancing Princesses and Princess and the Pauper are the same person

I posted this years ago on a different Barbie movie sub that isn't really active anymore. So I thought I'd share it here.

I was watching the Princess and the Pauper and a thought crossed my mind: could Annaliese's mother, Genevieve possibly be the same Genevieve from the 12 Dancing Princesses? Some of you may be asking "well other than sharing a name, what do these two characters have to do with each other?" Well since Queen Genevieve could pass for an older version of Princess Genevieve, it would be very possible for her to have a daughter who looks just like her. Her late husband is never named and if he was Derek from 12DP then he would be merely king consort and it would make sense why Annaliese didn't ascend to the throne after his death if she's only royal through her mother who is still living and she was unmarried. I know King consorts aren't really a thing in real life, but this is a fictional world where we can suspend gender roles a little bit. The movie already doesn't follow real life royalty rules with Annaliese still being a princess and Preminger wanting to marry the queen to be a king, so clearly in this world marriage is enough to hold the title. Now let me address a couple of holes in this theory. 1) the castle is different. Well there's a simple explanation for that... King Randolph had TWELVE heirs! And Genevieve wasn't even the eldest, so if she and Derek stood any chance of ruling they would need to move into their own kingdom (which would make it even less surprising that it wound up bankrupt). 2) Queen Genevieve and Princess Genevieve's accents are different. Well when have accents ever been accurate or consistent in these films? 3) Considering Princess Genevieve's character arc of seeing through her evil cousin's plan to take over the kingdom, it doesn't really make sense as to why she wouldn't see through Preminger's. Well, for one, Preminger wasnt really scheming AROUND the queen as much as Roweena was around King Randolph. I mean she was literally scheming in front of his face, he was just too sick to notice. Preminger on the other hand was AWAY from the kingdom when he was doing all his shady stuff (they even said Preminger had been away for a long time) so it would've been slightly less noticeable AND you could also argue for senescence catching up to her. There's also the interesting detail of Queen Genevieve's crown being eerily similar to Rapunzel's mother's but that's another theory for another time. What do you guys think? Are you convinced?

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u/Olivebranch99 — 16 hours ago
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Favorite examples of terrible redesigns of characters from my childhood. Can anybody think of one that was an improvement?

u/Olivebranch99 — 1 day ago
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Ariel and her voice

After watching a video about ursula's song, I realized that Ariel remained silent throughout, and later in the movie, she never even tried to write. Many people wonder and mock why she didn't write, since she knew how, as was shown when she signed the contract. But upon reflection, I realized she followed Ursula's advice: "Up there, it's preferred that ladies not converse." And since Ariel knew nothing about humans, she followed her advice. And I have to admit that Ursula was right (how I love-hate that villains are always right, damn it!), because Eric gave her everything: a room, clothes, luxuries. He wanted to marry her when he barely knew her, and he didn't care that she couldn't speak. So in summary: Ariel didn't say anything during Ursula's manipulative song because she was listening to it and remembering her advice: "don't speak/communicate if you want to be appreciated up there" so she decided never to write or try to speak.

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u/luna-blood666 — 2 days ago