u/MammothAstronomer402

Hello :) I have recently shared a similar post in another sub and I wanted to hear your opinion here as well since there has been a lot of interesting discussion around it.

I wanted to repost it but I can't.

Since I have recently been on a rewatch of my favourite movies, I wanted to have an idea of the essences of the elves of the LOTR, a fictional interest of mine. It is hard to deny Peter Jackson's casting was one of the best of all time.

However, I also noticed that the elves, that I figured should all have a touch of Angelic, look significantly different between each other. According to many, high Angelic was not a requisite for their casting. However, it is unclear which essence was more present if any.

All of them have different aesthetics but it works. They look magical and they fit the part they are given. However, the classic ethereal/distant does not necessarily translate into Kitchener's idea of Angelic, does it? Galadriel has that energy. Lee Pace as well to an extent, but he seems to mostly have Dramatic. What about Legolas, Arwen and Elrond, however l?

I heard Liv Tyler is Y dominant with secondary R and some A. And Cate is verified Angelic. Legolas is tricky. I see romantic, but I also see natural, HS, D, and some A? He looked different in The Hobbit and I wondered if it was because he lost his Angelic essence growing up? Many says he is mostly R or HS however.

Elrond, I see a lot of D and N in him but I am not sure I see Angelic. Also some HS.

Based on the last discussion, it seemed that A, R, D were often said to contribute to an elfin look.
I wanted to know your opinion :)

Hi everyone :) recently I created a post asking about the body types of the elves of the Lord of the Rings. I learned that Orlando Bloom belongs to the TR category but I am really struggling to understand why he is not a SN. I have a hard time with men.

I know the features and body proportions matter more but doesn't the ID also have to fit the "essence" a little? Orlando to me has always felt very earthy and free spirited, which also made him the correct choice as a wood elf (Legolas) and a pirate.

He also, although overall looking on the narrower side, I see width in him. It could be because he bulked up over the years? He looked more sturdy in The Hobbit. But maybe I am just dreaming😭can someone help me understand why he is a TR? And to what extent the "vibe" has to match your ID?

Hi everyone, I already posted this in another sub about Kitchener essences but I was interested in the Kibbe system too. Since I have a slightly abnormal obsession with the Lord of the Rings' elves I was wondering if you have an idea of the kibbe types of the actors who played the most magical creatures of middle earth and how much do you think said Kibbe influenced their casting.

I know Cate Blanchette is Dramatic (verified?) and I suppose it works since Galadriel has a distant, majestic demeanor.

Do you have any idea of the others? Do you think people with certain kibbe are more likely to be cast as elves? I imagine they should have length, narrowness, and a detached aurea but Legolas (Orlando Bloom), who i think still comes across as elvish, doesn't have it as much. He doesn't look detached to me.

Lee Pace does. However, it works in both cases.

Liv Tyler could be a FN? She is tall and seems to have a certain openness in her upper body. But I am not sure..

(I do believe Orlando, although great as Legolas, Is better as Will but it might be an essence things)

There has been a lot of criticism and hatred (yes, hatred) towars Orlando Bloom in the last few years. Probably partially due to his personal life but also because I think it's a common occurrence for someone who achieves stardom overnight and then has a few failures (KoH). However, when The Curse of the Black Pearl came out Orlando might have not been Depp or Rush, but he was still fantastic and endearing as Will. Most critics did recognize it. So I wanted to share some love for him. Will is my favourite character. As a child I preferred Jack Sparrow (even if I adored Will too). But now my heart belongs to this dork.

I think they all look so similar, but Viggo as a child reminds me of Kevin from Home Alone😭 all adorable

Without a doubt, everyone remembers how great Viggo was as Aragorn. Or what a beautiful performance Ian gave as Gandalf.

Sean Austin as Sam will never be forgotten.

Viggo is one of the most respected actors of his generation and the only reason why I think he never won an Oscar is because he had the bad luck to be nominated the same year as Daniel day Lewis.

Sean Bean as Boromir is wonderfully sympathetic and magnetic too, I doubt anyone questions it. Boromir's death is my favorite scene.

However, at the cost of sounding like a teenage fangirl (which I am not, I promise you), I'd like to praise Orlando Bloom's Legolas and John Rhys Davies' Gimli here.

Orlando is nowadays often dismissed as the hot guy who did silly faces on the background and was aura farming throughout the movie, even if at the time LOTR came out he was quite a revelation.

I think his reputation after KoH got in the way of enjoying his previous work.

His Legolas was amazing: luminous, adventurous, and sincere. He wasn't majestic like the other elves but he brought a certain lightness and grace that made him the right amount of whimsical and otherworldly. As a Mirkwood elf, I liked that he was different from Elrond or Galadriel. I think these movies were made with an incredible amount of love and dedication and it shows even with the cast.

Orlando and John have a wonderful on screen relationship (also, unpopular opinion: I think Viggo and Orlando had better chemistry than Viggo and Liv. But Viggo and Sean Bean had the best chemistry).

No one doubts Davies is an amazing actor but I think his Gimli, being more of a comic relief, is not always praised as much as others. Nevertheless, he was heartwarming, witty, and sassy. Legolas and Gimli added a lot to the movie, their friendship, the banter, the comedic timing, the heart, and the contrast.

So I wanted to share my view on a couple that has occasionally been dismissed in my opinion.

Do you have a performance in mind that you thought was great yet you feel like it is not properly recognized nowadays?