u/Iguy_Knows_All

“Everybody says they value honesty but nobody means it”

That is a direct quote from an ex of mine. At the time I thought it sounded manipulative, but looking back on relationships I’ve had I’ve come to think they were right.

After being diagnosed with trauma from that relationship, and having people I have considered close friends betray, lie, be two faced, gaslight, ghost, etc over the years, I no longer reach out for communication when someone feels like they are pulling away or I suspect a lie or inconsistencies. I no longer ask “can we talk?” If something is bothering me in a friendship, even if that friendship is 6 months old. Don’t get me wrong I would greatly prefer direct communication, but I do not generally expect it in my friendships, regardless of the other person.

Also when friends make promises or say they value honesty, or when they make a flattering statement about me, I no longer believe them. I don’t tell them that of course, but to me it’s empty, and I fully expect that all of my friends at some point could and would lie or discard or talk shit about me behind my back at some point, which I why I have stopped valuing people as much as I used to, and I focus on getting the most I can out of a friendship and having fun, while also ensuring I have leverage if the friendship goes south, and not investing emotionally. In fact I’d go so far as to say that regardless of how much I genuinely enjoy hanging out with some of my friends and one or two might even consider me their best friend, I would not use the label “friend” even after months of consistent hanging out as it feels too emotionally intimate.

Now I’m not saying I intentionally lie or manipulate, but I have certainly devalued my relationships and avoid putting too much trust in people period, because based on my understanding of social psych and personal experiences I do think I genuinely believe in the statement “everybody says they value honesty but nobody means it”. I think today’s “best friend” would be tomorrow’s ghoster or bully if it gave more social capital or comfort. I believe the person who makes promises will eventually break them, and I believe that most people are playing a very different social game, so I have adapted based on evidence. I enjoy people’s company and can go deep with them, but it is done while holding the belief that this person will eventually betray me so I approach relationships much more strategically. Some friends have taken an issue with this approach because it’s cynical or can read like I don’t care, but that said I feel a lot safer and more secure in relationships than I ever did in my past, and while I acknowledge their right to be upset, I think if I took the approach of clarity seeking or trust, those same people would probably be happy to burn me eventually. Has anybody else taken this approach to relationships?

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u/Iguy_Knows_All — 6 days ago

Do therapists lie or tell their clients what they want to hear?

Had a psych major boyfriend (not yet graduated) who told me this and was very adiment that therapists are trained to essentially feed their patients validation or anything that would help with their “healing”. Ironically, when I had to go to therapy because I was diagnosed with trauma after that relationship ended, I was hesitant because of how they spoke about it. Is therapy really just a place you go to be given Barnum statements and be told what you want to hear?

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u/Iguy_Knows_All — 6 days ago

Hi,

I’m 23 and I have CPTSD after extreme bullying, emotional abuse, and betrayal by my ex. That combined with other stressors has impacted my daily life, which I’m doing my best to work on. I go to therapy, workout, and have even picked up mediation and yoga.

But I still find myself waking up between 2-4am nightly with a physical panic response and my mind rushing through thoughts about that person or memories of that situation. Even if I quote the thoughts my body is still tense and my heart still beating fast, and sleep has become nearly impossible for the next 2-3 hrs or so after this. I have tried going for walks, podcasts, and the previously mentioned yoga and mediation. Hell, I even turned to some spiritually in the hopes of reaping the benefits of faith. It hasn’t changed much; I’m still writing this at 3:40am. I don’t want to take more medication, but I want my sleep back; I had never had sleep issues until I met this person.

How do I catch some z’s?

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u/Iguy_Knows_All — 11 days ago