u/GrantulaCat

For context I’ve been trying to get off kava/kratom shots for almost five years with some quits along the way. I’ve been hovering around 1-2 daily now for about a year, which is much much lower than the dark ages. I’ve been back in the gym lifting weights pretty hard for a good five months now and can’t for the life of me see much results.

Traditionally, I used to be able to put on lean mass after lifting for 4 weeks or more. I don’t think this is a matter of age (I’m 34), but kratom, as I know it tanks testosterone. I guess I’m just a little surprised at how profound the negative effect is with how low my use is comparatively.

Has anyone else experienced this? Or has anyone experienced this and seen that effect go away fairly quickly after quitting? I am trying to make the final jump but some confirmation bias wouldn’t hurt.

For context I’ve been on those feel frees/ kanva shots for almost five years with some quits along the way. I’ve been hovering around 1-2 kanvas daily now for about a year, which is much much lower than the dark ages. I’ve been back in the gym lifting weights pretty hard for a good five months now and can’t for the life of me see much results.

Traditionally, I used to be able to put on lean mass after lifting for 4 weeks or more. I don’t think this is a matter of age (I’m 34), but kratom, as I know it tanks testosterone. I guess I’m just a little surprised at how profound the negative effect is with how low my use is comparatively. Has anyone else experienced this? Or has anyone experienced this and seen that effect go away fairly quickly after quitting? I am trying to make the final jump but some confirmation bias wouldn’t hurt.