u/Determinationnow9

I've visited Seattle once a few years ago during Covid and loved it, I went in the middle of the summer so it was amazing of course. I have always thought it would be amazing since I am from New England originally. I'm an engineer and it would be great for my career.

I keep going back to thinking about moving there and keep running into the Freeze conversations. I see and hear this on this site a lot, other social media websites such as YT (social people are posting on YT and aren't afraid of it), from people who have lived there that are friends or distant family friends, and also the news. Tons of people say it's not a thing but then lots say it isn't. Transplants on social media have videos saying it's not a thing when they meet other transplants. Lots of people on here just say stay away.

I have a friend there that is really nerdy but out going for the most part and is open to meeting people, sort of weird socially but is still social in his own way. He says it is real, and you need to force relationships and be adamant about hanging out. You need to have similar hobbies and if you want to have a gathering of 5-10 people show up to hangout with then you need to invite 30-50 people. Another 2-3 friends I know that are very outgoing and very social, not nerds, that moved there say the freeze is real and takes a while to make friends, similar with hobby interests and making friends. I see them doing lots of things on social media. They also don't post on here they said or even use this site.

How much of this phenomena has gone down in the last 2-4 years with more transplants moving to the PNW? Is it really all just in Seattle and some on the outskirts or is it the entire Greater Seattle Area, just Greater Seattle and Greater Portland, the entire PNW or what places is it experienced in? Is there a period of time that after it people start to do the social freeze to others?

Are the people that experience the social freeze that post on here or don't, just not meant to be around people? Are they just not out going and personable? Are they ones that would thrive with tons of friends in NYC, CA, Austin, DC, Boston, Chicago or other large social places but have issues in the PNW region(s)? Are they people that would literally talk to anyone for any reason and have gotten rid of social anxiety but still have issues in the PNW? Are they the life of the party but then all of a sudden not when moving to these places in the PNW? Yes I am also basically asking what type of people even use this site/sub because I don't even know (if you know what I mean)....

Edit: I say that last sentence because I am honestly not sure if I should be taking advice from this sub or site even.

I'm so sick of employers acting and thinking that if you haven't done something before or don't have it on your resume, but have done something similar, or even being qualified with a degree and really able to learn something, they just won't choose you. Companies are really hurting themselves by not getting work done and just thinking they don't want to take a "risk" on hiring people. This whole thing about you should be able to do the job immediately and no training or mentorship is the thing that is hurting today's society. Tons of people know how to lead teams when they haven't been a leader before, or learn a software, or have done a similar thing before. The employer just thinks that all skills outside of work should be learned, even if not currently learning on your own then they think you'd just be a rock in front of a new thing you've never seen before. Companies with hundreds of roles open that want to hire people, just don't want to hire.

I am an electrical engineer and have a lot of people reaching out to me for roles and interviews, but the other jobs I apply to that I can do they just don't choose me. Like I have done what they have on the posting and or have done a similar thing, or can learn it fast plus have the mental ability to learn. These roles they don't fill, they just waste time interviewing people, hoping that one day that one person with everything applies. I have a few years of experience and lots of companies want to hire me, but not always what I want. News flash! If you think that just because someone hasn't used such software or doesn't have such words on their resume, that they have no ability to ever learn anything else, then you absolutely are insane. That's like saying a software engineer who knows python, can never learn HTML, they are stuck with Python! Or someone who has used a similar CAD program, or hasn't used a CAD program before can never learn any ability to use another cad program that your company uses. It's easy to do these things, really not hard for someone with the skills and mental ability. It just a sickening job market. Humans are so stuck in their comfortable shell that they have no real self growth on doing things, and I am sick of it.

I find it funny that people want people who are enthusiastic about stuff, which is good, I am that way but even if I am not showing it doesn't mean I don't care about it. I've just grown so much and realizing that non of this even matters end of day since this all is just a job for money. There are tons of areas of the country that want to hire people and cannot, they have a hard time hiring people for whatever reason, so wouldn't you think you want to actually hire people? Tons of people leaving certain places of the country for better ones, but you don't want to hire people in that area where people are leaving?

This isn't a crash out if you think that.

edit: I can see a death spiral waiting to happen when people realize that they need other people and cannot just do everything themselves. Much how live high taxed states that are supper progressive with regulations that don't let anyone do anything, they have people leave the state and then cannot fix the issues, then more taxes and then people leave then higher taxes, etc. They don't address or even take a risk and attract others back in any fashion. This is a similar thing that I am seeing with jobs honestly.